JackClark

Microsoft will stuff it up or people will remember how much they dislike them, Google are an advertising company, that had some spare time. Apple's execution and timing was perfect. I can't see them being removed from the top spot for a long time. And who's Nokia?

Xx-IAN-xX

Jack its time for you to change your username Granny Smith maybe


PS

This is in jest please don't take offence

J4CKO

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Iphone Fanboys, Making Islamic Extermists look ambivalent and uncommitted to their cause since 2007

JackClark

Jacko, don't hate the player, hate the game. Save yourself some time and just let people enjoy quality products. For every post that says Apple's great three of your Antifanboy gang pop up, it's tedious.

MMT WRX

Did a little speed test yesterday with my HTC Desire and one of my daughters friends brand new iphone.

1st to get youtube up and playing the top spot most viewed video.

and

1st to get google maps up and pin point our location.

Yes, the Desire rocked on both counts. Also, for some reason the iphone was about 1/2 a mile out with the location.

So there you go ultra scientific proof.

Scooby Soon!

So according to your logic Apple release 3GS which makes the 3G obsolete?

In regards to the apps, if you have a massive app then normally only the core program is stored on the internal space and the cache and bulky stuff stored on the memory card. I have stacks of apps on my desire and still have plenty of space left, its also super fast at browsing as stated above and is an all round great phone, I am glad that HTC have now become the "Game changers"

Torquemada

lol, yep, I don't know anyone who has one, it's good to be different and that hasn't posed any probs as everything's web based (although I can see the potential for issues).

I would probably say that it was more that Palm ruined themselves as they left it too long to release the Pre and then put more out there than would possibly be shifted, post release of other similar phones (including iPhone)

I like the way it works and, as said, not many others have them, whereas alot of my friends have iPhones HTC's or Blackberry's and pretty much nowt else.

JackClark

Scooby Soon, how old is your Desire? Now have a search around for the release date of the iPhone 3G, which is in some ways superior to your HTC offering. You'll find the 3GS was released over a year after the 3G, your Desire is probably a week old and has been superseded, you can't see that? I'd be a tad annoyed. Do you think HTC will have your phone in mind in six months time? I doubt there's more than one person part time on the Desire team right now.

I like your thinking Torquemada, it's good to be different, bloody shame about Palm, they were king of the hill once. There's value in the operating system that's for sure, but the chance of anyone developing for it are minimal. But you can go too far with different, Snazy bought some funny phone a while back from some chinese maker that no one's heard of and probably never will again, that's money down the drain.

MMT WRX

Is this thread still in good humour

Isn't it about choice? I've not seen a phone that ticks every box.

J4CKO

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Jack, I love Apple stuff, I just want to see appropriate and fairly judged competition that raises the game !

JackClark

Me too J4CKO, but so far everyone's just been catching up in everything but numbers, bloody shame as Apple are sure to raise the bar out of reach again with the next iPhone. Where's the innovation from other vendors? It's all duplication and in HTC's case they even copy themselves and add a few numbers.

f1_fan

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The Japanese were once said to have never invented anything in the automotive industry, but they sure knew how to take someone else's idea and make it work properly.

If the Desire actually works well as a phone and has a real SMS inerface that can do really really complex stuff like delivery receipts as well as all that app nonsense then I for one don't care whether they innovate or not.

Let Apple trail balze away and someone like HTC can make it work properly

Snazy

lol im starting to wonder, some seem to be getting a little serious now

I agree, there is no such thing as the perfect phone, nor one phone for all.

Torque, how is the Pre? Looks a bit fiddly, but the 9800 or 9700a looks to follow in its boots.

jjones

you can install to your sd card (expandable memory) because "there's an app for that".

billythekid

Interesting thread... cosnidering a HTC phone at the mo.
Does anyone know what the best deal is right now? VF are offering 18mths / 500mb web / 600mins / £30

Is this any good?

Snazy

Use one of the comparison sites mate, plenty of indirect offers out there.

http://www.comparemobilephonetariffs....asp?hs=desire

MMT WRX

T Mobile
1200 mins calls
Unlimited Texts
Unlimited Web (3gb) **
24 months
£35
**that was the main issue for me. I was reading on another forum where a guy has used 40% of his 500mb Vodafone allowance in just 3 days and he reckons not mega usage.

JackClark

Chicks dig iPhones.

http://www.break.com/pictures/gotta-...se1816886.html

StickyMicky

IIRC on the hero you can do something called "root" which i assume is like the jailbrake iphone stuff?

Anyway, if i remember rightly it allows you to store apps on the card, i would assume you can do this on the other models, i cant remember the reason for it not being enabled by default but you could probably google it and find out.

ChefDude

I just googled that root 'jailbreak' thing. so maybe you can store apps on SD card, but it's a real faff.

There's a reason linux isn't first choice os for most people

MMT WRX

I was reading a thread yesterday that quoted some phone market share.
Apple 1%
HTC 2%
Nokia 41%
I was quite surprised by all three figures to be honest. If they're accurate of course.

stevebt

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I think the HTC evo 4g is coming as close as possible to ticking all the boxes for a phone I want.

Snazy

Phone sales figures are about as accurate as government figures. Spin them any way you want to get the best number for your brand. Age grouping, regional sales, total sales, currently on contract etc.

Apparently... Nokia phones account for 1 in 3 of every phone sold in the world. Which given their range sounds pretty reasonable.

subaruturbo_18

I don't think your comment is fair as HTC have released lots of phones at different levels compared to apple who just release one phone at a time. For example, HTC also released the Tattoo which was a cheaper phone and not as good as the others they did at the time. The hero has been HTC's top android phone since it was released last year, and then the desire came out a year after that, similar to how the 3G came out, then the 3GS was about a year or so after? Also in regards to your comment about whether HTC will care about the desire in 6 months..well my hero is over a year old and the newest version of android is being released for it within days. How is OS 4 for the 3G? And which HTC phone has been superseded?

Before you reply to this comment, don't class me as an anti fan boy or ignore what i say and don't answer my questions like you normally do. I'm looking for an honest fully explained answer this time.

JackClark

Firstly, the update for the Hero has been delayed. Not enough developers no doubt.

OS4 for the 3G will be awesome. No third party multitasking but as a bazillion iPhone users will tell you it's not needed.

All HTC phones will be superseded by the Incredible and the ten variants that different carriers will release. It's due out at the end of the month.

Hope that answers your questions.

Snazy

lol

subaruturbo_18

The incredible is available for pre order on verizon, an american network, as of monday. As far as i can see there are no official releases in the UK as of yet. It may have slight improvements over the desire but that gives people the chance to buy a newer phone rather than customers who now still buy an iPhone 3GS, over a year after it was released.

Delays happen for a number of reasons. It's probably not down to lack of developers, it could just be technical difficulties. The iPad's UK release date has been delayed due to errors with the wifi i believe. $hit happens.

JackClark, Have you heard of the iPad being released on any other UK network apart from Orange?

JackClark

The iPad's release has been delayed due to it's unprecedented success in the US, in it's first week it was used more on the web than Android and Blackberry!! Nothing to do with any issues at all and if you ask someone who has one the WiFi is fine.

I seriously doubt the iPad will be Orange only, at least I hope not. I'm hoping that Apple once again change the market and offer a European data plan of sorts, only Apple could facilitate this change, no one else is big enough.

The 3GS is still the phone that others try to compare to, take a look at the reviews, are the new HTC phones compared to the old ones? No, they're compared to the 3GS, a year old phone that still kicks butt.

dpb

Even purves wouldnt stoop so low as to use an iphone for a camera , or would they