A foul is a foul & if your foot is off the ground (a) you know what you're doing (b) it will f*ck someone up if it connects when their leg is "braced" ie can't move away from the challenge. 99 times out of a 100 there is no problem as the player will just fly up in the air however that does not excuse it.

TX.

 

holy **** what have i started? i was just a comment on the bad leg break, not the start of a war

 

It is nothing more than bad luck and I would say exactly the same if it was Rooney who had been in place of Ramsey.

My (decent) chance of playing top level sport was finished at 19 as a result of an unfortunate but accidental bad tackle in rugby, and now 28 years later and 14 knee ops later on that leg do i blame anyone? No, **** happens

 

You just do not understand do you Those tackles were examples of Arsenal and bad tackles that Arsenal think only happen to them and conveniently forget that they have/do play that way occasionaly.. And to also point out that it was luck that didn't break their legs as they were a hell of a lot worse than Shawcross's tackle, and so it was BAD LUCK that Ramsey's leg broke.

SO once again how many injuries have been caused by opposition players to your team?????

As for scum fans being a joke (obviously refering to me), you should listen to whats been said throughout football on this matter. Its completely hilarious listening to your conspiracy theorys, its like having Wenger on snet

If Rooney got his leg broken in a challenge i'd be very pi**ed off but i wouldn't be throwing stones from a glass house and claiming it only happens to United IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, shall i post up a video clip titled 'horror tackles on ronaldo'

 

You cant be serious with that question I take it you dont know football then.

 

No no no, your not getting it! I've seen worse tackles over 18 years and only seen 2 broken legs MEANING IT IS UNLUCKY THAT THAT CHALLENGE RESULTED IN A BROKEN LEG as that sort of challenge will almost never result in one! Jesus you gooners are hard work.


No its not normal thats why its just coincidence, other teams have players that have broken legs/ serious injuries.

Oh and as an aside point, Hull City are the most fouled team in the prem is that because teams can't beat them playing football?

 

I've reviewed the footage.

I would have red carded the player too.

The player did have an opportunity to play the ball fairly, he chose not to.
There was a lot of speed and force in the tackle sufficient to endanger his opponent.
The height of the contact tells me that this tackle was also intended to intimidate the opponent.

For me, that tips it from yellow/caution for a reckless tackle to red/send off for use of excessive force in the tackle. Even if the injury had not eventuated, that is a red card offence through and through.

That's coming from a referee's opinion, I dislike Arsenal as much as most of you do, however, I dislike unfair play even more so.

 

Err Rooney has had twice broken his foot. Once against Chelsea. there are wreckless and dangerous tackles but there are also times when these things happen.

 

It's ok when it's Rooney though.

 

Sorry,but that bullsh*t,so he meant to do it then???????

 

Little miss wrx, so your saying it was pre meditated then?

 

and in which half of the second did he make his choice

 

Azz,

I'm saying that he had an opportunity to go into that tackle with less force than he did, hence he could have played at the ball in a fair manner. However, he didn't, whether there was FULL malice and intent, that I do not know, but the actions suggest that it wasn't entirely innocent.
I am sure he wouldn't have been happy the other way round and it is something I tell players to consider when they make reckless tackle, what would they think if it was another player coming in on them.

You can think it is bullsh1t and whether you like it or not, I'm telling you how FIFA interpret it and hence tell us match officials to interpret it.

Bravo, very well thank you, how on earth are you? I see you still haven't seen sense and ditched the gunners.

 

And then you have bloody Villa fans on top.

 

Playing the victim and ignoring the facts about the gooners being so called victims Refusing to answer points proving that arsenal are not always picked on and evidence from recent games suggest they are as bad as any.

There is a cliche saying 'Anyone thats ever played the game knows how it is' and the reason people call for ex footballers to become refs, and i'm not saying for one minute your not a good ref LMW. Lets not even talk about the clowns in charge at FIFA

When you eventually buy your tough tackling midfielder that your all crying out for and your dishing out the 'rough' treatment a la Viera days then we'll see your thoughts on it.

 

I'll keep out of the victim calls, I am just calling the tackle as I see it, tempted as I am because it's Arsenal to turn a blind eye.

I've played a few games myself, I've also stood in the terracing at the Holte and spent my time as an avid fan. I understand the game and the passion behind it, I know what it is like to fly into tackles and receive them. I know the heartache when your team loses (Villa fan, I know it FAR too well ) and the anger from the fans towards the referee when they f&*k up.
Yes, let's not go there with the head honcho's at FIFA, anyone interested should read a book called FOUL - it's all about the corrupt things that go on behind the scenes, very good reading and an eye opener......

However, coming back down to the topic, I still stand firm that had I seen that tackle on a game, I would have brandished the red card in the offending player's direction, no matter who they were. (Unless it was against Rooney or Ronaldo - that's taking the proverbial in case anyone harks up ).

 

If the ball wasn't there how do you know he genuinely attempted to get it, after it had gone of course?

TX.

 

Point us to these top flight teams with nasty leg break injuries over a 5 year period then ... where's your evidence? What team do you support? Same for them is it

TX.

 

FFS he fractured a bone in his foot Out for 6 weeks was he? How long was Eduardo out for ...

TX.

 

Some food for thought guys:

If a tackle is careless, reckless or uses excessive force it is a foul irrespective of whether the ball was contacted first NB "but I got the ball ref" NO LONGER APPLIES!!!!.
In the case of a reckless tackle the player should be cautioned and if excessive force is used the player should be dismissed.

'Careless' indicates that the player has not exercised due caution in making a play.

'Reckless' means that the player has made unnatural movements designed to intimidate an opponent or to gain an unfair advantage.

'Involving excessive force' means that the player has far exceeded the use of force necessary to make a fair play for the ball and has placed the opponent in considerable danger of bodily harm.

The fact that the player gets the ball is irrelevant and it is not a license to make bad tackles. In Europe this is what referees have been told by UEFA

' Strong unfair tackles
� Referees are strongly reminded of their duty to protect players from strong unfair physical contact / tackles.
� One aspect which was reiterated was that it makes no difference if the tackle is from behind, the front or the side.
� Where contact is made with the ball and the opponent at speed and without consideration for the potential danger to the opponent, this must be punished appropriately � normally with a caution, but in cases of serious foul play with a red card.
� Referees are reminded that any tackle involving excessive force and therefore endangering the safety of an opponent is serious foul play and must result in a red card.'

 

Errmm, how about Bryan Robson on his own - 2 broken legs and one broken ankle in 2 years - won't even bother listing his shoulder injuries. Don't remember anyone bleating about a conspiracy at that time

3 broken legs in 5 years of games and out of the literally thousands of tackles that would have happened is just statistical coincidence. Nothing else. Every senior pro asked about it has said "accident", only refs and Arsenal fans see it differently

 

No point in arguing with you anymore, because in plain english more than once i've explained to you that just because a tackle results in a broken leg doesn't mean there aren't worse tackles that do not.

Your right Arsenal are the most fouled.

Arsenal don't employ the very tactics you claim teams always use against.

There are facts to back your accusations up.

Your right because Arsenal never broke anybodys leg they can't have dirty players.

As said only Arsenal believe this to be true.

Hope teams go easier on you in future.

Aaron

 

Maybe Arsenal need to change their kit supplier

Something along these lines