Subaru UK and Cosworth Collaboration
16 February 2010, 03:22 PM
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I think this is great news. Shows Subaru's commitment to fast cars. Cossie and Subaru together..this is like a dream come true for an old lad like me. Two legends in making 4x4 saloons go fast, working together in whatever fashion has got to be a great thing.
The more the hatch does not sell. I think its not just the shape that's causing this, in fact i love it and would have one in a heartbeat. Current economic climate is very different to when WRX's/STI's ruled their sales. People are not that up for paying £25k for car with low mpg. Even if when you think about it, most performance cars anywhere near that price have low mpg. Even the Honda's and Renault's when booted are close.
I was worrying Subaru will turn attentions to shifting more Foresters (great as they are) and Legacy's etc and move more away from the hot cars. It's put my faith in them that they have not forgotten their roots and are making some smart decisions now. Toyota partnership is a good move and now this shows maybe they are on the right track. Any time you see Subaru and Cosworth on a car that's got to be exciting. Ford boys will be sick.
The more the hatch does not sell. I think its not just the shape that's causing this, in fact i love it and would have one in a heartbeat. Current economic climate is very different to when WRX's/STI's ruled their sales. People are not that up for paying £25k for car with low mpg. Even if when you think about it, most performance cars anywhere near that price have low mpg. Even the Honda's and Renault's when booted are close.
I was worrying Subaru will turn attentions to shifting more Foresters (great as they are) and Legacy's etc and move more away from the hot cars. It's put my faith in them that they have not forgotten their roots and are making some smart decisions now. Toyota partnership is a good move and now this shows maybe they are on the right track. Any time you see Subaru and Cosworth on a car that's got to be exciting. Ford boys will be sick.
16 February 2010, 04:48 PM
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what i know so far
due next month (march)
380-400 bhp
will have styling mods
uprated suspension
wheels
will cost £50k plus
will be done in this country (something to do with emmisions etc)
someone has actualy ordered one! (not me BTW
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best get practicing (like Jeremey Clarkson)
loosen up bottom jaw and 'yeh mate its a cozzz-eh' and will not look, sound or drive 'like a golf'
due next month (march)
380-400 bhp
will have styling mods
uprated suspension
wheels
will cost £50k plus
will be done in this country (something to do with emmisions etc)
someone has actualy ordered one! (not me BTW
)best get practicing (like Jeremey Clarkson)
loosen up bottom jaw and 'yeh mate its a cozzz-eh' and will not look, sound or drive 'like a golf'
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16 February 2010, 04:59 PM
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£50k, oh dear. Better be a legend like the 22B, if it doesn't hit the mark it's tatties.
For that money I'll spend the extra on a GTR all day long.
I hope I'm proven wrong
For that money I'll spend the extra on a GTR all day long.
I hope I'm proven wrong
16 February 2010, 05:05 PM
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what i know so far
due next month (march)
380-400 bhp
will have styling mods
uprated suspension
wheels
will cost £50k plus
will be done in this country (something to do with emmisions etc)
someone has actualy ordered one! (not me BTW)
best get practicing (like Jeremey Clarkson)
loosen up bottom jaw and 'yeh mate its a cozzz-eh' and will not look, sound or drive 'like a golf'
due next month (march)
380-400 bhp
will have styling mods
uprated suspension
wheels
will cost £50k plus
will be done in this country (something to do with emmisions etc)
someone has actualy ordered one! (not me BTW
)best get practicing (like Jeremey Clarkson)
loosen up bottom jaw and 'yeh mate its a cozzz-eh' and will not look, sound or drive 'like a golf'
16 February 2010, 05:07 PM
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Its not a factory car - its a UK variant
I.M have milked the UK marked to death with "specials"
Just look at how many there are, this is just another example except this one is built to order(I guess)
Ultimately and unfortuately I'd say the cars days are probably numbered - Subaru (like others) have had their glory days
16 February 2010, 05:15 PM
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quite possible, just going from what i was told
to be honest i was thinking much the same myself. IF they get the handling sorted as well then...............could be interesting as for the £50k price tag, was'nt the 22B something like £54K? and they sold all of them
16 February 2010, 05:23 PM
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Ive had 3 22bs and trust me when i say thet are worth all there money all day the driving exspereince handling road presence is in a league of its own especially as they are now around 12 years old +Its not just a type r with with blown out wings what some people say .In my mind a true legend like the rs500 cosworth..
22b was £48,000 ive got an originall invoice sitting here...
22b was £48,000 ive got an originall invoice sitting here...
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16 February 2010, 05:29 PM
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You see personally I cannot understand how that car was ever worth 48K, maybe thats just me.
I was in one years ago as a passenger and yes it was quick and yes it turned heads etc
But..............that was 10+ years ago, things change, others catch up and dare I say takeover
I was in one years ago as a passenger and yes it was quick and yes it turned heads etc
But..............that was 10+ years ago, things change, others catch up and dare I say takeover
16 February 2010, 05:35 PM
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You are entitled to your opinion but please let me know what will hold 50-60% of its value 12 years on and still beat most 50k cars.I cant think of none.
Porsche holds good value but hey there is 100-000 of them on the road.
They priced it at that because when it come over they put it on a track and im sure this is correct they put it up against a 70-80k porsche and it was all over it also the limited numbers and bassed on a wrc car....
Porsche holds good value but hey there is 100-000 of them on the road.
They priced it at that because when it come over they put it on a track and im sure this is correct they put it up against a 70-80k porsche and it was all over it also the limited numbers and bassed on a wrc car....
16 February 2010, 05:35 PM
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Ive had 3 22bs and trust me when i say thet are worth all there money all day the driving exspereince handling road presence is in a league of its own especially as they are now around 12 years old +Its not just a type r with with blown out wings what some people say .In my mind a true legend like the rs500 cosworth..
22b was £48,000 ive got an originall invoice sitting here...
22b was £48,000 ive got an originall invoice sitting here...
BTW did you ever own the super rare type uk version?
16 February 2010, 05:40 PM
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You see personally I cannot understand how that car was ever worth 48K, maybe thats just me.
I was in one years ago as a passenger and yes it was quick and yes it turned heads etc
But..............that was 10+ years ago, things change, others catch up and dare I say takeover
I was in one years ago as a passenger and yes it was quick and yes it turned heads etc
But..............that was 10+ years ago, things change, others catch up and dare I say takeover
16 February 2010, 06:00 PM
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:-Pre 01 - Mk1 (All of them)
Bug - Mk2
Blob - Mk3
Hawk - Mk4
Current - Mk5
I'm going by what the Scooby dealers used for reference whenever I was buying them. Since I've bought from three different dealers (Nuneaton, Pangborne, Cheam) and they all did the same I'm guessing this is pretty consistent for Subaru. My classics were 4 years apart but they were sold to me as 'Mk1s' They called my Blob the Mk3 and the Hawk a Mk4. Having said that, given the affinity, respect and and general adoration for Subaru dealers on this forum
- I'm not surprised that people have their own numbering system. Me, I'll stick with what the dealers tell me that so I don't order the wrong car in future.
16 February 2010, 06:04 PM
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Axel you will find the uk dealers are fools and that Boyakasha is spot on ..Never heard of a mark 2 subaru .Unless you are tlking about type 25 mk1 and type 25 mk2 they was 2004 and 2005 one had uprated pistons and the 2005 had pistons cams and oil pump..
16 February 2010, 06:17 PM
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Lol, no. That might be Scoobynet "fact", but in reality it's means f**k all anywhere else.
No, it doesn't. Subaru stopped using a numbering system in public with the introduction of the newage, so the hatch is correctly just the MY08 car. If you are going to use a number, the only one that makes sense for the first hatches is 14, as that's the one used by STi and Prodrive for the rally cars.
Somebody's imagination. If there's any logic to it there might be a connection with the fact that Subaru UK marketed the Blobeye as the "Impreza III". If you extend that, the Hawkeye would become 4 and the hatchack five, although, again, in reality it means **** all.
surley that makes the hatch the STI 10?
Where did Mk5 come from?
16 February 2010, 06:22 PM
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The 22B Type UK had to be held back a year because by the time Prodrive/IM had them ready, there were already too many JDM 22B's registered in the UK that year to allow any more to be sold.
Back then there were limitations of quantities of models allowed in each year, which no doubt helped to inflate prices. My own STi5 Type RA 555 WRC Limited cost over 30K when new, the limited edition models were going for top money back then, not just the 22B.
16 February 2010, 09:10 PM
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From the buyer's point of view, there will also be a few (see Sunny Side Up) who'll value the full Subaru UK warranty and dealer network support.
