Anyone after a swirlpot? nice and cheap.
08 February 2010, 06:55 PM
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Mattybr5 - have sent you a pm mate
rooferman - can sort that for you mate just let me know when you ready.
Hopefully my AN fittings will be here by wed/thurs latest so i will make a few up ready anyway.
rooferman - can sort that for you mate just let me know when you ready.
Hopefully my AN fittings will be here by wed/thurs latest so i will make a few up ready anyway.
08 February 2010, 07:38 PM
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Right guys just to let people know, that push type ones as in pics are £25 delivered.
If people want AN fittings thats fine but they will be £35 delivered as i have to pay £10 for the weld on fittings. Still very cheap tho i hope you will agree. Just let me know sizes etc and i will get onto it. cheers.
If people want AN fittings thats fine but they will be £35 delivered as i have to pay £10 for the weld on fittings. Still very cheap tho i hope you will agree. Just let me know sizes etc and i will get onto it. cheers.
09 February 2010, 09:25 AM
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They are 100mm round, The 1L one is 135mm high ( not includeing the top pipe ) and the 2L one is 220mm high ( again thats the pot )
Hopefully the AN fittings will arive asap so i can get cracking with some of them, I will also try get some better pics tommrow when its light.
Hopefully the AN fittings will arive asap so i can get cracking with some of them, I will also try get some better pics tommrow when its light.
Ian
09 February 2010, 02:59 PM
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Hi Type Ellis, I'd like one too please. Push on is fine for me. I wonder if you could place the fitting like this:
I think the side entry helps 'swirl' and is quite popular. The engine feed can be central but the fuel rail return and tank feed should be side at the top for good de-aeration.
I don't mind if it's bulk head or base mount.
Cheers
I think the side entry helps 'swirl' and is quite popular. The engine feed can be central but the fuel rail return and tank feed should be side at the top for good de-aeration.
I don't mind if it's bulk head or base mount.
Cheers
09 February 2010, 05:23 PM
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Trails no problem mate just get in touch when you are ready.
Jamz Have a search around the forums mate, lots of threads about them and easy enough to do.
V555mac , the push on ones are ready whenever made, have a couple made up ready, just need to know if you want a 1L or 2L one?
Floyd . yes mate can do that for you, will get onto it tommrow, do you want a 1L or 2L one?
Cheers guys. Ellis.
Jamz Have a search around the forums mate, lots of threads about them and easy enough to do.
V555mac , the push on ones are ready whenever made, have a couple made up ready, just need to know if you want a 1L or 2L one?
Floyd . yes mate can do that for you, will get onto it tommrow, do you want a 1L or 2L one?
Cheers guys. Ellis.
09 February 2010, 08:24 PM
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I,m ready for a 2L with just the push fittings when ever your ready ..... The Sm engineering one i have also has two outlets fitted off centre so would like them as Floyd suggested.......How do you want paying ??
Adam.
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09 February 2010, 08:28 PM
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ok mate will get tha made up for you. Payment is totaly upto you mate, I will pm you now with paypal addy and my address incase you want to send payment. Cheers, ellis.
09 February 2010, 08:36 PM
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What size mate? 1L or 2L ? am prety sure you would find room under the bonnet for a 1L one but a 2L one would need to go somewhere else as im prety sure its too big for under the bonnet.
09 February 2010, 09:06 PM
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At the risk of sounding stupid what is a swirl pot and what are the benefits of having a 1l or a 2l?????
By the way they do look great and the welding is spot on!! even i wont one and dont no what they do lol
By the way they do look great and the welding is spot on!! even i wont one and dont no what they do lol
09 February 2010, 09:57 PM
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Right guys, here is two ive made up today, havent recieved my AN fittings yet so these ones are the push on ones. Made a 1L and a 2L one. Gave them a quick rub over with a scotch pad but if you want to polish them its easy with some metal polish and a rag, or a buffer in a drill is even better, They come up mirror finish with enough polishing. I have made them to a guide i found , The pipe positions are as it said, one right at the bottom ( feed to engine ) One slightly higher on other side ( feed from tank ) Apparently that causes it to swirl 
Then the one in the side on top is return from the rails ( right at top so warm fuel isnt going straight back into the engine ) and finaly the one in the middle at very top is the return to the tank ( right in middle as apparently , naturaly any air in there will rise to the top up the middle and out ) . Now im no expert in the design of these but it all sounds right too me. Sorry the pics are not the best, dont have great light in the house and its dark outside 
. Anyway if you like what you see and still want one just need to know what size and weather its for push on ( as in pics ) or for AN fittings. Any other requests then feel free to ask and will see what i can do. cheers
Then the one in the side on top is return from the rails ( right at top so warm fuel isnt going straight back into the engine ) and finaly the one in the middle at very top is the return to the tank ( right in middle as apparently , naturaly any air in there will rise to the top up the middle and out ) . Now im no expert in the design of these but it all sounds right too me. Sorry the pics are not the best, dont have great light in the house and its dark outside . Anyway if you like what you see and still want one just need to know what size and weather its for push on ( as in pics ) or for AN fittings. Any other requests then feel free to ask and will see what i can do. cheers I'm after a 2ltr version, push on connections, but can you make the mounting plate on the bottom 1/2 inch bigger than the pot?
PM me with your payment info
Cheers
Stu.
10 February 2010, 07:46 AM
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10 February 2010, 08:03 AM
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As stated the inlets and outlet should be offset to promote swirl as like the ones from this site: Alloy Racing Fabrications - Swirl Pots :: Fuel swirl pot :: 1 Ltr Alloy fuel swirl pot
The swirling of the fuel in the tank helps to seperate it from the air, something to do with the denser fuel being pushed to the sides and the less dense air staying in the middle and rising up. Probably like when you stir a fizzy drink and you get a whirl of bubbles in the middle.
Also, just my opinion, but the way it should be piped up is bottom outlet to fuel rail, middle one is return from fuel rail, top one is feed from tank and very top middle one is return to tank. My reason for this is that the fuel coming back from the rail should be air free already, so to me it makes sense to make that the middle one.
Also, what arrangement needs to be made with fuel pumps and FPR's?? Do you just stick the FPR on the return to the tank from the pot or do you need to have it on the return to the pot from the rails with an inline pump feeding the rails? I'm not sure on this.
Edit: Just done some reading and apparently the pipework does go how originally stated, not my way. Something to do with the fuel coming back in from the rail being warmer than the fuel coming in from the tank. So maybe having the return from the rail lower than the inlet from the tank means you will get warm fuel going back to the rail so not good. Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer why? Also from having a read it seems you do need a 2 pump set up. Your in tank pump feeds the swirl pot and then you need an external, inline pump to feed the rails with the return to the swirl pot going through the FPR.
The swirling of the fuel in the tank helps to seperate it from the air, something to do with the denser fuel being pushed to the sides and the less dense air staying in the middle and rising up. Probably like when you stir a fizzy drink and you get a whirl of bubbles in the middle.
Also, just my opinion, but the way it should be piped up is bottom outlet to fuel rail, middle one is return from fuel rail, top one is feed from tank and very top middle one is return to tank. My reason for this is that the fuel coming back from the rail should be air free already, so to me it makes sense to make that the middle one.
Also, what arrangement needs to be made with fuel pumps and FPR's?? Do you just stick the FPR on the return to the tank from the pot or do you need to have it on the return to the pot from the rails with an inline pump feeding the rails? I'm not sure on this.
Edit: Just done some reading and apparently the pipework does go how originally stated, not my way. Something to do with the fuel coming back in from the rail being warmer than the fuel coming in from the tank. So maybe having the return from the rail lower than the inlet from the tank means you will get warm fuel going back to the rail so not good. Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer why? Also from having a read it seems you do need a 2 pump set up. Your in tank pump feeds the swirl pot and then you need an external, inline pump to feed the rails with the return to the swirl pot going through the FPR.
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10 February 2010, 06:24 PM
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Right guys, have made 2 more today. Please bear with me, too be honest i didnt expect so many people too be wanting them but im getting thro them slowly. Im not just going to put my paypal addy up as what i dont want is loads of people paying as that will make things more confuseing. What i will do is, as i make each persons pot i will pm you too say its ready along with my paypal addy and when they are payed for i will get them staright out.
Floyd - have made yours today 1.5L push on
rooferman - have made yours also 1L push on
Here is some pics
I have recieved some an fittings today so i will start makeing them ones up now, have got enough to do a few but will have to order some more.
Floyd - have made yours today 1.5L push on
rooferman - have made yours also 1L push on
Here is some pics
I have recieved some an fittings today so i will start makeing them ones up now, have got enough to do a few but will have to order some more.
10 February 2010, 06:41 PM
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Ellis, having seen the 1lt I've made my mind up; can I have a 1lt version with AN fittings please...let me know your PayPal address and I'll send you some money
Ian
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