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Old 27 January 2010, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Hold on a minute! How many flights are there around the world per day, week or year? I'm guessing hundreds of millions. We catch one guy with an explosive tied to his leg & that's grounds to inconvinience every person travelling by air for the rest of time! FFS when will we put things in perspective Massive waste of time & money IMHO.

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i understand where you are coming from , but that is like saying "forget the speed limit everyone drive however you want, as it is only a small percentage of car owners that will die as a result" then the police would not need to enforce the traffic laws saving us all time and money.
Old 27 January 2010, 01:39 PM
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Best not leave the house Les, safest place to be ...

So now we can add body scanning cameras to the growing list of rules, regulations, Laws, CCTV, speed cameras, ANPR, low ozone cameras etc f'ing etc

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They will have them on the street corners one day!

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Old 27 January 2010, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
OK - heres another one putting the cat amoungst the pidgeons.

What happens if a person with a turban "beeps" going through an existing scanner?

Do they make him take it off?

Same goes with say a muslim women who is completely covered up?

If I'm wearing a coat I'm make to take it off.
If I'm wearing timberland boots then I'm made to remove them

So - shouldn't the boys with the turban and the covered up woman be made to put some stuff through the scanner?
pull him to one side and do a "controlled explosion" perhaps..... ps its a joke for the benefit of any touchy forum users
Old 27 January 2010, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Hold on a minute! How many flights are there around the world per day, week or year? I'm guessing hundreds of millions. We catch one guy with an explosive tied to his leg & that's grounds to inconvinience every person travelling by air for the rest of time! FFS when will we put things in perspective Massive waste of time & money IMHO.

TX.
If any of your family die as a result of these nut jobs on a plane would you not ask why was everything not done to protect them?

These nutters can be on any plane any time, so its unfortunate that every plane has to undergo this, if it means me or any of my family dont die because of these religious fanatics then I'm all for it TBH..
Old 27 January 2010, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by my06 ppp silver
"controlled explosion"


Seriously though what does happen?
are they taken to a private area and asked to reveal the barnet?
Old 27 January 2010, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by urban


Seriously though what does happen?
are they taken to a private area and asked to reveal the barnet?
Knowing the UK they will be allowed to pass through aftr a wee pat down because it will be against there rights to remove anything
Old 27 January 2010, 01:58 PM
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My point is that the chance of it being you is so small to be almost zero. Flying is already far safer than driving yet you no doubt get in a car every day without worry. I don't worry about "nutters" as there's almost none of them out there vs millions of flights per day.

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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
If any of your family die as a result of these nut jobs on a plane would you not ask why was everything not done to protect them?

These nutters can be on any plane any time, so its unfortunate that every plane has to undergo this, if it means me or any of my family dont die because of these religious fanatics then I'm all for it TBH..

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Old 27 January 2010, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete.
well an xray/wave etc etc machine that shows a naked body isnt going to show up internal explosives, so then what, you have to have two scans and a full cavity search plus a compulsory vomitting to make sure you havent swallowed some explosive device??

open the flood gates for intrusive controls is all im saying.

steady on with the comments too gents, theres a lot of blatant racism in some of them coming through, maybe without intent but its still there.


At that rate we 'll need the full body x-ray jobs then !

i think your being absurd regards the prudishness but anyway


its a government that you voted for that partly facilitated this sort fanaticism btw
Old 27 January 2010, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Knowing the UK they will be allowed to pass through aftr a wee pat down because it will be against there rights to remove anything
Its all this rights shyte that really pisses me off.

Mr X can say - no, can't take that turban off big lad otherwise alah will strike me down.

Whereas I can't say, no big lad those boots don't come off because its against my religion
Old 27 January 2010, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Its all this rights shyte that really pisses me off.

Mr X can say - no, can't take that turban off big lad otherwise alah will strike me down.

Whereas I can't say, no big lad those boots don't come off because its against my religion
yup seems to be the way of things nowadays, everybody elses rights come before our own in the UK
Old 27 January 2010, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Hold on a minute! How many flights are there around the world per day, week or year? I'm guessing hundreds of millions. We catch one guy with an explosive tied to his leg & that's grounds to inconvinience every person travelling by air for the rest of time! FFS when will we put things in perspective Massive waste of time & money IMHO.

TX.
I think it's more likely to stop Hundred of people being blown-up mid-air.

If one gets away with it, more will follow. If someone you knew was then on a plane that one of these bomber's got on, wouldn't you be asking the Government to do something about it? And why they didn't do something before? They are doing something ..... scanners.

But like I said earlier, It shouldn't be for everyone. But also like I said, that would be discimination, and we can't upset terrorists. They might get angry and try to blow a plane up.
Old 27 January 2010, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
I can see how it's a good idea. I'd rather be sat on a plane knowing the half dozen muslims seated near me had been through this scanner, rather than sat looking at them to see if they start fiddling inside their undercrackers, or trying to set the touchpaper on their shoes.

However, I do think it should just be Muslims that have to go through these things. Normal White English families going on Holiday are unlikely to be out to blow the plane up.
I guess doing this would mean discrimination, and that would leave the door open for every Muslim scum to sue the Government.
say what you mean there fella
Old 27 January 2010, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Hold on a minute! How many flights are there around the world per day, week or year? I'm guessing hundreds of millions. We catch one guy with an explosive tied to his leg & that's grounds to inconvinience every person travelling by air for the rest of time! FFS when will we put things in perspective Massive waste of time & money IMHO.

TX.
I agreed with what you said, but actually we didn't "catch" this guy, he was so useless that he failed to make a viable bomb, one which (according to "experts") would not have been detected by these new scanners (at £80,000 a machine) in the first place!

So we are looking at hundreds of millions of people being inconvenienced and an absolute forture being spent for nothing.

Oh, and don't forget, the pants-bomber was on watch-lists, banned from the UK, his Dad told the authorities that he was a wrong-un, he paid a grand and a half for his tickets in cash and boarded the flight without a passport!!!! If security fail to spot so many big red arrows pointing at this nutter, then trusting air safety to a guy watching a nudie-telly shows how incompetant those in charge have become

mb
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Right, speculating further.

What happens if a religious ***** has explosives shoved in an orifice?
Will these new machine spot something?

And if they do, can he(or indeed she) be taken to a room for searching or is that against religion too?




(edited by web team - please, no racist remarks.)

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Old 27 January 2010, 03:48 PM
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Wouldn't it be much simpler (and cheaper) to just stop Muslims flying?
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Originally Posted by 22BUK
Wouldn't it be much simpler (and cheaper) to just stop Muslims flying?
Hope you've got your flame suit on boy
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Originally Posted by 22BUK
Wouldn't it be much simpler (and cheaper) to just stop Muslims flying?
Originally Posted by Dieseldog
Won't there be a fuse or something?...
Originally Posted by urban
Hope you've got your flame suit on boy
fcukin quality. btw, roll up a bit of turban and hey presto, a fuse......... religous ****** , prince harry would be proud of you.


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Originally Posted by 22BUK
Wouldn't it be much simpler (and cheaper) to just stop Muslims flying?

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Originally Posted by urban
Hope you've got your flame suit on boy
Why? Seems to me the best solution by far.

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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Get your facts right FFS, they don't use X-rays!!!
There are two types of machine.
The background scatter machines do use xrays and the millimetre wave ones don't.
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Hold on a minute! How many flights are there around the world per day, week or year? I'm guessing hundreds of millions. We catch one guy with an explosive tied to his leg & that's grounds to inconvinience every person travelling by air for the rest of time! FFS when will we put things in perspective Massive waste of time & money IMHO.

TX.
I mark you right.
People on a Subaru website (whom I presume drive a Subaru) worried about the relatively insignificant chance of dying on an air flight.
Shows a large degree of poor risk assessment in my opinion.
Any Volvo chat sites out there
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We should just have Muslim only flights subsudised by the tax payer but with no security at all just a pasport check.
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A large percentage of the nutters are newly converted are they not ?
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Originally Posted by dpb
At that rate we 'll need the full body x-ray jobs then !

i think your being absurd regards the prudishness but anyway


its a government that you voted for that partly facilitated this sort fanaticism btw
hardly, its just crossed over into pure racism now if you read the recent comments and to say otherwise is absurd. or some people in this thread can continue to make wild generalisations from a narrow minded standpoint with a weak attempt at justification

and no i didnt vote for them and never would, or any other party for that matter.

but as i said above, it was all in my opinion anyway.
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Originally Posted by 22BUK
Wouldn't it be much simpler (and cheaper) to just stop Muslims flying?
how would they know if you are a muslim or not, would they have a religion test at checkin.
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Originally Posted by gallois
how would they know if you are a muslim or not, would they have a religion test at checkin.
Yes - check-in desk would be "manned" by naked ladies.
Old 27 January 2010, 07:41 PM
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"behavioural profiling", which meant spotting passengers who had paid cash, were travelling with only a book for luggage on a long-haul flight or were behaving erratically at the airport.
er... thats not profiling and if they aren't looking for these things already no wonder we're getting blown up.
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Originally Posted by gallois
how would they know if you are a muslim or not, would they have a religion test at checkin.
I am so close to saying something that would get me in trouble

Seriously though the comment about "racism"? Now, I don't see many Sheiks trying to blow up planes (they are the ones who wear Turbans by the way......) . Simple statement of fact people; the current major Terrorist threat against Westerners comes from Muslim males aged between 18 and 35.

The sooner we stop titting around worrying about "upsetting peoples feelings" and worry more about people getting blown up, the better.

Your rights as an individual are nothing compared to wider societies right to live in safety.

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