Why no "coldest December" on the news?
No "coldest December" on the news for the simple reason that this shite government would have to fork out money to the pensioners for cold weather payments.
And thats something they cant afford to do because they have screwed the country into the ground.
(cue immigration /asylum seekers / dole and benefit scroungers debate)
And thats something they cant afford to do because they have screwed the country into the ground.
(cue immigration /asylum seekers / dole and benefit scroungers debate)
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It has a gigantic supercomputer, 1,500 staff and a £170m-a-year budget. So why does the Met Office get it so wrong?
...whilst "la la" Broon goes off to "save the world from global catastrophe" once again
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And the Daily Mail also points out a few truths about the Met...
It has a gigantic supercomputer, 1,500 staff and a £170m-a-year budget. So why does the Met Office get it so wrong?
...whilst "la la" Broon goes off to "save the world from global catastrophe" once again
mb
It has a gigantic supercomputer, 1,500 staff and a £170m-a-year budget. So why does the Met Office get it so wrong?
...whilst "la la" Broon goes off to "save the world from global catastrophe" once again
mb
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That article is written by Richard North - he of EU referendum fame. He's a slightly odd guy by all accounts, but he IS a good researcher and puts his case well
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I get 10 bags of grit/rock salt delivered every winter just before christmas to use at work, i usually have a few left at the end of winter, indeed i still had 2 spare from last year.
They are all gone so far, just had to ask for some more!
They are all gone so far, just had to ask for some more!
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Two things.
First of all I do not think it is the coldest December and I am sure fairly recently when it was it was on the news.
Secondly, global warming is likely to give Britain cold winters and wet summers. If the North Atlantic Drift fails, which is likely, then the warming effect will be lost and here and Norway will be MUCH colder in the winter. Good for Scottish ski resorts as long as we get precipitation.
First of all I do not think it is the coldest December and I am sure fairly recently when it was it was on the news.
Secondly, global warming is likely to give Britain cold winters and wet summers. If the North Atlantic Drift fails, which is likely, then the warming effect will be lost and here and Norway will be MUCH colder in the winter. Good for Scottish ski resorts as long as we get precipitation.
There is certainly so sign of it changing at the moment.
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Just seen a piece on the BBC national news about this being the coldest winter so far since 1995. It featured some bloke from weather centre.
Obviously Scoobynet has influence beyond these pages
Obviously Scoobynet has influence beyond these pages
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Pain in the ****!
I knew it wasn't just my memory. Apparently last winter was the coldest for 13 years where I live - so this just seemed like more of the same. Except it is going on a bit now. Nearly three weeks of snow on the ground is the longest I can ever remember and going by the forecasts it could be four weeks.
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Originally Posted by BBC Web site
Provisional Met Office figures suggest December 2009 was probably the coldest since 1995 across the UK as a whole.
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BBC Scotland news said tonight that it was the coldest December since 1981 (presumably in Scotland).
I remember the cold in 1995. In between Christmas and New Year, it hit -20c (on my mum's cavalier's temp gauge
) where I am and thats on the coast! Nostrils were freezing up as I walked to the pub. I cant remember if the cold lasted this long though.
I remember the cold in 1995. In between Christmas and New Year, it hit -20c (on my mum's cavalier's temp gauge
) where I am and thats on the coast! Nostrils were freezing up as I walked to the pub. I cant remember if the cold lasted this long though.
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Another hour this morning shovelling snow so i can open the carwash.
Plus a little trip across the road to stock up on some table salt
Not much left on the shelves when i arrived to be honest, the big 3kg bags were all gone.
Now it`s about time i fired up the kettle and started getting stuck into some of them biscuits
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It is blimmin cold. Even at home with the heating on and a T shirt, long-sleeve top and a fleece to insulate me, I am still cold to the bones!
My 2 pennies: other countries have colder/snowier winters than us without traffic chaos. I think we can put much of that down to their obligatory use of winter tyres.
Bizarrely, the Met Office usually correlates wet summers with warm summers: accordimg to them, July 2009 "was the wettest July on record (in a series from 1914)", but also apparently the temperatures were "close to ... normal".
This is obviously nonsense to everybody else, who associate warm sunshine with warm summers. A bright clear sunny summer's day with warm temperatures will usually be offset by a cool clear night with cold temperatures. The stupid met office just take the AVERAGE for the day/month! So a warm sunny day followed by cool night is scarcely different on the statistics to the average temperature of a grey and wet 24 hours, when the night-time temperature falls only slightly due to cloud cover!
My 2 pennies: other countries have colder/snowier winters than us without traffic chaos. I think we can put much of that down to their obligatory use of winter tyres.
Bizarrely, the Met Office usually correlates wet summers with warm summers: accordimg to them, July 2009 "was the wettest July on record (in a series from 1914)", but also apparently the temperatures were "close to ... normal".
This is obviously nonsense to everybody else, who associate warm sunshine with warm summers. A bright clear sunny summer's day with warm temperatures will usually be offset by a cool clear night with cold temperatures. The stupid met office just take the AVERAGE for the day/month! So a warm sunny day followed by cool night is scarcely different on the statistics to the average temperature of a grey and wet 24 hours, when the night-time temperature falls only slightly due to cloud cover!
According to the Times this is pretty much a record cold spell for the whole of the Northern Hemisphere.
It is the coldest weather in China for 30 years.
It is the worst snow in Seoul since records began 60 years ago.
At least half a dozen European countries are breaking records for cold temperatures.
North American plains are experiencing 'lethal' temperatures of -30 deg C.
The cause of this, at least in Europe, is a North Atlantic Oscillation which is blocking the normal North Atlantic weather systems from the west, leaving us at the mercy of an airflow from the North and East. The oscillation is caused by unusually cold water in the North Atlantic (not the NAC failing then)
At the same time the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing record rainfalls.
Apparently a strong El Nino is also building which apparently spells a more extended and colder winter in the Northern Hemisphere.
Get out there and buy more scarves!
It is the coldest weather in China for 30 years.
It is the worst snow in Seoul since records began 60 years ago.
At least half a dozen European countries are breaking records for cold temperatures.
North American plains are experiencing 'lethal' temperatures of -30 deg C.
The cause of this, at least in Europe, is a North Atlantic Oscillation which is blocking the normal North Atlantic weather systems from the west, leaving us at the mercy of an airflow from the North and East. The oscillation is caused by unusually cold water in the North Atlantic (not the NAC failing then
)At the same time the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing record rainfalls.
Apparently a strong El Nino is also building which apparently spells a more extended and colder winter in the Northern Hemisphere.
Get out there and buy more scarves!
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The Met Office has no credibility left, its a government fuelled propaganda machine, designed to make us think that the planet is warming up.
Or so the press now seams to think.
IMHO they are either completely useless, or deliberately so.
I follow the weather quite a bit, i have to as my trade depends on it, a few weeks back they were telling me that we had an above average chance of it being a milder winter then last, only recently changing it to a 50% chance, i could have tossed a coin and predicted the weather to the same degree of accuracy as them.
Yet they still publish stuff like this LMFAO!
Hand picked data can give you what ever results you want......
Or so the press now seams to think.
IMHO they are either completely useless, or deliberately so.
I follow the weather quite a bit, i have to as my trade depends on it, a few weeks back they were telling me that we had an above average chance of it being a milder winter then last, only recently changing it to a 50% chance, i could have tossed a coin and predicted the weather to the same degree of accuracy as them.
Yet they still publish stuff like this LMFAO!
New evidence confirms land warming record
New analysis released today has shown the global temperature rise calculated by the Met Office’s HadCRUT record is at the lower end of likely warming. The study, carried out by ECMWF (the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts) with input from the Met Office, performs a new calculation of global temperature rise. This independent analysis is based on information from a wide range of sources. It uses all available surface temperature measurements, together with data from sources such as satellites, radiosondes, ships and buoys.
New analysis released today has shown the global temperature rise calculated by the Met Office’s HadCRUT record is at the lower end of likely warming. The study, carried out by ECMWF (the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts) with input from the Met Office, performs a new calculation of global temperature rise. This independent analysis is based on information from a wide range of sources. It uses all available surface temperature measurements, together with data from sources such as satellites, radiosondes, ships and buoys.
Hand picked data can give you what ever results you want......
The main flaw in the analysis is that they have a calculation of global temperature rise.
If you look for a rise you will find it.
What about a calculation for global temperature change. Cos there may or may not be one, and it may be up or down.
By the way - the record cold temperatures are all due to global warming :P
If you look for a rise you will find it.
What about a calculation for global temperature change. Cos there may or may not be one, and it may be up or down.
By the way - the record cold temperatures are all due to global warming
:P
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I had to laugh at an advert on CO2 emissions last night. It was a government one telling us to drive 5 miles less every day, or week(can't remember), so that we slow the climate change. What the hell!?
The diesel in my Mum's Civic appears to be starting to freeze as it's difficult to start, and when it does get fired up, it stalls after a few seconds. I don't think diesel freezes solid until -80 or so, but it must be having difficulty getting through the filter now.
Micky: it's pish isn't it? We dig out the drive every day as it's on a slope, only for it to be filled back in again the next morning. We've also got an oil tanker coming at the end of the week, so that'll be a laugh.
The diesel in my Mum's Civic appears to be starting to freeze as it's difficult to start, and when it does get fired up, it stalls after a few seconds. I don't think diesel freezes solid until -80 or so, but it must be having difficulty getting through the filter now.
Micky: it's pish isn't it? We dig out the drive every day as it's on a slope, only for it to be filled back in again the next morning. We've also got an oil tanker coming at the end of the week, so that'll be a laugh.
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The good ol' Grauniad gets to the heart of the matter though ... The science behind the cold weather | UK news | The Guardian
"... It may be called a freak cold snap, but it’s actually a fairly routine distribution of winter weather, says the Met Office. Although it may be hard to believe, many parts of the northern hemisphere are considerably warmer than usual at the moment. Alaska and much of northern Canada is unseasonably warm for instance, with temperatures 5C to 10C warmer than expected. That still leaves the air a biting –30C (–22F) or so though ..."
Glad that's cleared up ....
A Met. Office *spokesman* tells us why it's happening but hey don't say why they failed to predict it ...
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"... It may be called a freak cold snap, but it’s actually a fairly routine distribution of winter weather, says the Met Office. Although it may be hard to believe, many parts of the northern hemisphere are considerably warmer than usual at the moment. Alaska and much of northern Canada is unseasonably warm for instance, with temperatures 5C to 10C warmer than expected. That still leaves the air a biting –30C (–22F) or so though ..."
Glad that's cleared up ....
A Met. Office *spokesman* tells us why it's happening but hey don't say why they failed to predict it ...
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According to the Times this is pretty much a record cold spell for the whole of the Northern Hemisphere.
It is the coldest weather in China for 30 years.
It is the worst snow in Seoul since records began 60 years ago.
At least half a dozen European countries are breaking records for cold temperatures.
North American plains are experiencing 'lethal' temperatures of -30 deg C.
The cause of this, at least in Europe, is a North Atlantic Oscillation which is blocking the normal North Atlantic weather systems from the west, leaving us at the mercy of an airflow from the North and East. The oscillation is caused by unusually cold water in the North Atlantic (not the NAC failing then)
At the same time the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing record rainfalls.
Apparently a strong El Nino is also building which apparently spells a more extended and colder winter in the Northern Hemisphere.
Get out there and buy more scarves!
It is the coldest weather in China for 30 years.
It is the worst snow in Seoul since records began 60 years ago.
At least half a dozen European countries are breaking records for cold temperatures.
North American plains are experiencing 'lethal' temperatures of -30 deg C.
The cause of this, at least in Europe, is a North Atlantic Oscillation which is blocking the normal North Atlantic weather systems from the west, leaving us at the mercy of an airflow from the North and East. The oscillation is caused by unusually cold water in the North Atlantic (not the NAC failing then
)At the same time the Southern Hemisphere is experiencing record rainfalls.
Apparently a strong El Nino is also building which apparently spells a more extended and colder winter in the Northern Hemisphere.
Get out there and buy more scarves!
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In addition to all the other coldness, it looks like Mt. Mayon in the Philippines is ready to blow:
Philippines' Mayon Volcano to explode 'within days' - CNN.com
If it is like Mt. Pinatubo then the outlook is for some cooler summers, global temperatures dropped by about 0.5 °C (0.9 °F)
Enough to kick-start the next glaciation ?
Philippines' Mayon Volcano to explode 'within days' - CNN.com
If it is like Mt. Pinatubo then the outlook is for some cooler summers, global temperatures dropped by about 0.5 °C (0.9 °F)
Enough to kick-start the next glaciation ?
What I'm loving is the climate changist's insistence that, when you point out to them the recent cold winters, "You need to understand the difference between climate and weather".
On being asked to explain it to me, they say, "Oh, I can't be bothered, You can look it up"
End of argument.
"La la la , I can't hear you", anybody?
On being asked to explain it to me, they say, "Oh, I can't be bothered, You can look it up"
End of argument.
"La la la , I can't hear you", anybody?
The Met Office has been doing some naval gazing recently with some interesting challenges from outside...
The Met Office admits its annual global mean forecast predicted temperatures higher than actual temperatures for nine years out of the last 10.
But some scientists contacted by BBC News say the organisation needs to discover why there is a consistent bias towards warming, however slight.
The Met Office admits its annual global mean forecast predicted temperatures higher than actual temperatures for nine years out of the last 10.
But some scientists contacted by BBC News say the organisation needs to discover why there is a consistent bias towards warming, however slight.
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From ... BBC News - Met Office's debate over longer-term forecasts
"... The UK Met Office is debating what to do with its long-term and seasonal forecasting after criticism for failing to predict extreme weather. Some experts say the Met Office should stop longer-term forecasting because it damages the organisation's reputation. Others maintain that communication of the forecasts must be improved ..."
I mean, WTF???? If the forecast is wrong then how much bleddy difference does it make how it's communicated???????????????????
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"... The UK Met Office is debating what to do with its long-term and seasonal forecasting after criticism for failing to predict extreme weather. Some experts say the Met Office should stop longer-term forecasting because it damages the organisation's reputation. Others maintain that communication of the forecasts must be improved ..."
I mean, WTF???? If the forecast is wrong then how much bleddy difference does it make how it's communicated???????????????????
Dave