New LR Disco and RR
11 August 2009, 01:19 PM
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Of course want or like shouldn't come into it and I should go for affordability/practicality over want and like but my car is my one remaining vice (have the Passat and a classic scoob for weekends but both would go for a new car) and I just can not find a people carrier I like. I did look at the VXR Zafira but the seats in that are no use at all.
The TD3 I tested was an SE with the beige leather and it is my ideal place to be stuck in for long journeys and traffic jams. Prices are still too high for me though so will have to wait.
The TD3 I tested was an SE with the beige leather and it is my ideal place to be stuck in for long journeys and traffic jams. Prices are still too high for me though so will have to wait.
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11 August 2009, 02:00 PM
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B2z have you looked at the Toyota Corolla verso? Our childminder has one and she can get 2 babyseats and a booster across the back, 7 seats too.
Doesn't look like a people carrier either - much!
Doesn't look like a people carrier either - much!
11 August 2009, 02:23 PM
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I've got a TDV6 D3 as well as the STI and I love it
(It just needs a remap..190bhp pushes it along quite well, but everyone says 240's much more like the TDV8) and at £295+VAT from JE it will not be long before I take a trip to Coventry..
Ditto on the D3 prices going up in the last 4 months, the stealers cannot get enough of them, but when the D4 is released I think D3 prices will drop again as they'll have loads!
(It just needs a remap..190bhp pushes it along quite well, but everyone says 240's much more like the TDV8) and at £295+VAT from JE it will not be long before I take a trip to Coventry..
Ditto on the D3 prices going up in the last 4 months, the stealers cannot get enough of them, but when the D4 is released I think D3 prices will drop again as they'll have loads!
11 August 2009, 02:37 PM
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and 3 or 4 hour journey's are a breeze..it's like taking your favorite armchair in the car with you.
If you plump for an SE give me a pm, I can give you the details of a "man who can". He'll unlock all the HSE 4x4 info, offroad sat nav, dif lock & ride height graphics for a small fee, and he's mobile
Cheers Andy it was my plumbers car, I was actually looking for a RRS but when I saw this D3 and then took it for a drive there was no comparision (I took a D2 out and hated every minute, the D3's so much better in ride quality and performance)
1: It's nicer inside than the RRS, with all the toys even though it's an SE
2: Does not have the drug dealer image of the RRS
3: Was already sitting on these RRS 20" supercharger alloys
4: Only done 37k and was £10k cheaper than an equivilent aged RRS
5: Has just won "large 4x4 2009", even though the D3's now 5 years old..
I'm looking forward to testing the D4
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11 August 2009, 02:39 PM
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I have indeed and that boot is tiny! The Disco's boot I can have someone sitting in there, the dog sitting next to them and still get some luggage in. That is the main reason for liking the Disco, not image but I was so impressed with the space inside the thing it was the only car i've been in that has more space than the Passat.
11 August 2009, 11:22 PM
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I have indeed and that boot is tiny! The Disco's boot I can have someone sitting in there, the dog sitting next to them and still get some luggage in. That is the main reason for liking the Disco, not image but I was so impressed with the space inside the thing it was the only car i've been in that has more space than the Passat.
12 August 2009, 08:59 AM
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It's out of my price range too at the moment hence waiting for the Disco 4 to come out and hope the Disco 3's flood the market. I need the prices to drop down to what they were back in January when you could get a good one for 12k! The same car is £18k currently.
12 August 2009, 09:03 AM
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+1... It's a VERY nice place to sit in a traffic jam
and 3 or 4 hour journey's are a breeze..it's like taking your favorite armchair in the car with you.
If you plump for an SE give me a pm, I can give you the details of a "man who can". He'll unlock all the HSE 4x4 info, offroad sat nav, dif lock & ride height graphics for a small fee, and he's mobile
and 3 or 4 hour journey's are a breeze..it's like taking your favorite armchair in the car with you.
If you plump for an SE give me a pm, I can give you the details of a "man who can". He'll unlock all the HSE 4x4 info, offroad sat nav, dif lock & ride height graphics for a small fee, and he's mobile
12 August 2009, 09:25 AM
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I paid £17.5k for my 05 SE with 37k back in June
12 August 2009, 09:27 AM
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Another "stealth" method is to use turbochip, they are national & mobile and quote the same power/torque increases as JE... I just prefer to use JE because of their pedigree.
12 August 2009, 09:36 AM
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Yep the SE I test drove was just a touch under £18k. Had everything I wanted although mileage was higher than yours but I don't have anywhere near that to spend on a car unfortunately. I'm hoping by the new year prices will have dropped back down to around £15k or under with the release of the Disco 4 but it could be wishful thinking.
18 November 2009, 10:07 PM
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Right then Matteboy!
Just sold my Disco 3 for 14k (bought it for 11k in January).
Told you so
20 November 2009, 11:29 PM
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[quote=drb5;8873631]Won't be out till 2011 and then all the other manufacturers will be getting better figures than now. Probably be silly money too.
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late 2010 early 2011, two prices, one 25k and the other 30k. loaded to death as well with loads of toys, it should (fingers crossed) sell very very well
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late 2010 early 2011, two prices, one 25k and the other 30k. loaded to death as well with loads of toys, it should (fingers crossed) sell very very well
21 November 2009, 05:59 AM
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range rovers wouldnt see which way an x5 went on road and for 95% of people the x5 is perfectly capable off road if driven correctly. if your going properly off road id suggest very few people do that in 50- 80k s worth of rangerover and for those that do they wont go where my 3k l200 will.
21 November 2009, 08:35 AM
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I've done fairly extreme green laning in a brand new LC Amazon (pretty luxurious) up tractor only tracks - it was very capable but it felt wrong in the extreme!
I'd rather have a RR over an X5 any day - the X5 is very good but the RR is so much nicer.
I'd rather have a RR over an X5 any day - the X5 is very good but the RR is so much nicer.
21 November 2009, 05:27 PM
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99.9% of people the world over, who need a car that can cover large distances on and off road choose the Toyota Landcruiser
makes every other european product look like the softroader's they are
"if you want to travel in the bush take a Land Rover -- if you want to come back - take a Land Cruiser" as the Aussies say
makes every other european product look like the softroader's they are
"if you want to travel in the bush take a Land Rover -- if you want to come back - take a Land Cruiser" as the Aussies say
22 November 2009, 07:16 PM
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99.9% of people the world over, who need a car that can cover large distances on and off road choose the Toyota Landcruiser
makes every other european product look like the softroader's they are
"if you want to travel in the bush take a Land Rover -- if you want to come back - take a Land Cruiser" as the Aussies say
makes every other european product look like the softroader's they are
"if you want to travel in the bush take a Land Rover -- if you want to come back - take a Land Cruiser" as the Aussies say
Yes Mattee, some of us down here need 4WD, and we choose Toyota Landcruisers
22 November 2009, 07:55 PM
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the rrs is nice but small inside and suffer from cronic suspension issues , bushes etc.
the disco is a much better car and drive imo but again has issues with suspension , water leaks , minor stuff but can work out expensive ,
of the two id choose the disco tdv6 and get it chipped , it removes the flatspot when accelerating and feels more responsive , also avail on the sport , they are both great off road but hardly are ever taken beyond a high kerb in the high street lol
the rr v8 d is also a great car , fast and torquey as **** but do suffer from oil pump failure .
the disco td5s are now going at resonable prices to , i chipped one and it used to leave the v8s for dust lol .
the disco is a much better car and drive imo but again has issues with suspension , water leaks , minor stuff but can work out expensive ,
of the two id choose the disco tdv6 and get it chipped , it removes the flatspot when accelerating and feels more responsive , also avail on the sport , they are both great off road but hardly are ever taken beyond a high kerb in the high street lol
the rr v8 d is also a great car , fast and torquey as **** but do suffer from oil pump failure .
the disco td5s are now going at resonable prices to , i chipped one and it used to leave the v8s for dust lol .
23 November 2009, 11:45 AM
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I'd get a Disco I think. And might well do soon too.
23 November 2009, 03:20 PM
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I've driven from London to Cornwall and back several times in an Amazon (4.2TD) and although luxurious and brilliant off road, I just think they are too big and rolly for distance driving. Driving one through the City is a nightmare (although taxis do get out of your way) and they guzzle fuel too - got well under 20mpg every time.
I'd get a Disco I think. And might well do soon too.
I'd get a Disco I think. And might well do soon too.
I would never argue that the Amazon is a better road car than the Disco BTW
when it's going that is
23 November 2009, 03:27 PM
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So LRs still break down constantly? That is their one major downfall. I have broken several Defenders - one actually blew a hole in the bonnet.
I'd do some major nerdery on reliability before taking the plunge. Not really any other contenders in this market - good off road, decent size inside, comfyish. I could never go for an M Class - just don't like them.
I'd do some major nerdery on reliability before taking the plunge. Not really any other contenders in this market - good off road, decent size inside, comfyish. I could never go for an M Class - just don't like them.
23 November 2009, 03:32 PM
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Just had my D3 chipped, plumped for a B.A.S (Bell Auto Sevices) map in the end. Due to 3 reasons.
a: No travelling, all done by post and internet (You buy the interface, BAS posts this to you and you upload the map yourself)
b: Recommended by other D3 owners on DISCO3.CO.UK - Dedicated to Discovery 3 and LR3 Owners and Enthusiasts
c: You can switch between modified and standard map whenever you wish.
The car's much smoother with plenty of oomf (Still not X5 pace but not bad for a 2.7 tonne hunk of metal)
a: No travelling, all done by post and internet (You buy the interface, BAS posts this to you and you upload the map yourself)
b: Recommended by other D3 owners on DISCO3.CO.UK - Dedicated to Discovery 3 and LR3 Owners and Enthusiasts
c: You can switch between modified and standard map whenever you wish.
The car's much smoother with plenty of oomf (Still not X5 pace but not bad for a 2.7 tonne hunk of metal)
23 November 2009, 03:50 PM
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So LRs still break down constantly? That is their one major downfall. I have broken several Defenders - one actually blew a hole in the bonnet.
I'd do some major nerdery on reliability before taking the plunge. Not really any other contenders in this market - good off road, decent size inside, comfyish. I could never go for an M Class - just don't like them.
I'd do some major nerdery on reliability before taking the plunge. Not really any other contenders in this market - good off road, decent size inside, comfyish. I could never go for an M Class - just don't like them.
I really like the Disco (and RR products in general) but they make such crass design decisions which impact reliabilty to much imo
I just love the "integrity" of the Toyota LC -- it is a brute and not the greatest drive but like the Terminator -- it will not stop EVER (see the many youtube clips of it towing beached Hummers to safety in the desert)
and with the wife and 5 kids there is only so hard you would want to drive
but you are bang on re the MPG -- not good (certainly for the performance delivered)
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23 November 2009, 03:53 PM
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New V8 TDI LC is quite a lot pokier but I can imagine mpg is even worse?
My inlaws have an X5 with all the toys - very nice to sit in, lots of toys, amazing handling for it's shape and weight, fairly quick but I feel a complete t1t driving it.
My inlaws have an X5 with all the toys - very nice to sit in, lots of toys, amazing handling for it's shape and weight, fairly quick but I feel a complete t1t driving it.
