SO... IS THIS THE BEST 450+ TURBO, BAR NONE ?!?!
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Alan,
Sounds good...... do you have anymore information. Have you got any graphs and info on boost and fuel used? I achieved 550lbft at the hubs on my turbo (using the previous engine), but then that was running a shedload of boost on VPower, so hardly worth it imo.
Sounds good...... do you have anymore information. Have you got any graphs and info on boost and fuel used? I achieved 550lbft at the hubs on my turbo (using the previous engine), but then that was running a shedload of boost on VPower, so hardly worth it imo.
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[QUOTE=Lateral Performance;8892083]That's because it's been designed for the early Mitsubishi Evos that rotated the opposite way to most turbos.
Mark is almost right, in fact, the S206 is based on the S205, which has a proven track record with Evos 4 to 9, making 500 bhp for anyone who wanted it. They have been selling like hot cakes, and we expect a similar uptake from the Subaru fraternity.
We certainly don't see the rotated assembly as being a problem, as it allows for a very neat pipe run. Most guys who are into serious tuning won't worry about a bit of pipework, and in any event, it's not difficult.
Mark is almost right, in fact, the S206 is based on the S205, which has a proven track record with Evos 4 to 9, making 500 bhp for anyone who wanted it. They have been selling like hot cakes, and we expect a similar uptake from the Subaru fraternity.
We certainly don't see the rotated assembly as being a problem, as it allows for a very neat pipe run. Most guys who are into serious tuning won't worry about a bit of pipework, and in any event, it's not difficult.
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We'll have the fuel system sorted out on our car this week, so we can go back for a play with that one.
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In my case 550lbft at the hubs was not that relevant, as it was achieved by keeping whatever the previous ignition was, but by just whacking the boost up. OK... this showed no signs of DET, and perhaps more torque could of been realised by increasing ignition and/or boost..... who knows. Anyway... I am not interested in screwing the **** out of a set-up, I tried that with the boost and it was probably part of the cause that cost me a set of headgaskets! Personally I think a boost level of circa 1.4bar and 485bhp at the fly is more appealing..... especially when everything stays intact!
Fun and games hey!
Fun and games hey!
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In my case 550lbft at the hubs was not that relevant, as it was achieved by keeping whatever the previous ignition was, but by just whacking the boost up. OK... this showed no signs of DET, and perhaps more torque could of been realised by increasing ignition and/or boost..... who knows. Anyway... I am not interested in screwing the **** out of a set-up, I tried that with the boost and it was probably part of the cause that cost me a set of headgaskets! Personally I think a boost level of circa 1.4bar and 485bhp at the fly is more appealing..... especially when everything stays intact!
Fun and games hey!
Fun and games hey!
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i bought it from mark at lateral just over a year ago it bloody feels genuine lol
dont worry it aint no ebay one it should be off the car in a week
dont worry it aint no ebay one it should be off the car in a week
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Running plain old vpower, spool is very good out on the road, only got p1 heads so would doubt my spool up is anywhere near as impressive as shauns though! On the dyno in 4th ( on my 6speed ) it gets 1.8 bar at 4000rpm, on the road it's more like 3600rpm
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People put a lot on the heads I am using, but since mine is hitting 2bar at around 3k... and don't forget I am running higher compression as well, I think the main advantage is VVT heads, not necessarily the porting etc in this type of comparison. Without testing back to back with VVT and then VVT Cossie Heads it is hard to say...... if I was to do this all over again, I would of stuck with my standard Spec C heads & CAMS. VVT heads are supposed to be worth 400+rpm on their own.
DC911,
1.8bar at 3600 in 4th (on a six speeder) is not bad at all on non VVT heads.
Jan,
I may as well answer your PM here whilst I am typing away.
Andy Taylor is the person you need to speak to at AET.
As far as I know they have at least three different sizes.... mine being the largest.
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Shaun
DC911,
1.8bar at 3600 in 4th (on a six speeder) is not bad at all on non VVT heads.
Jan,
I may as well answer your PM here whilst I am typing away.
Andy Taylor is the person you need to speak to at AET.
As far as I know they have at least three different sizes.... mine being the largest.
Regards,
Shaun
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mus,
Yes... it revs to 8200rpm (could go more), but with a GT30 turbo that is a waste imo. I think these heads come in to their own with a GT35 or bigger and at £3k, it's a lot of cash. Normal VVT heads and especially the OE Spec C ones are very good as they are. If I were to do this all over again, I would stick with a 2ltr or go 2.1 and take the slower spool on the chin for a 450-500bhp road / track engine. Don't get me wrong.... the set-up I have is the bollocks imo, but when you count the cash it has taken.......
Yes... it revs to 8200rpm (could go more), but with a GT30 turbo that is a waste imo. I think these heads come in to their own with a GT35 or bigger and at £3k, it's a lot of cash. Normal VVT heads and especially the OE Spec C ones are very good as they are. If I were to do this all over again, I would stick with a 2ltr or go 2.1 and take the slower spool on the chin for a 450-500bhp road / track engine. Don't get me wrong.... the set-up I have is the bollocks imo, but when you count the cash it has taken.......
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Simon aka JGM will be mapping the car on Friday hopefully!
I spent a couple of hours on the car today, fitted the turbo and up-pipe, modified the intercooler pipework, changed the oil & coolant.
I will need to fit some inlet manifold spacers as the inlet pipe doesn't line up with the turbo. How hard a job is this? Anyone done this on a newage? Where can i get the parts asap?
After that is sorted, i will be fitting a fuelab fpr and a higher flowing lateral supplied walbro pump.
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Harry im from tottenham broadwater farm not too far from wood green.
shaun - do you think cossie heads help the turbo spool quicker? than your vvt heads.what kind of fuel are you using? thats a nice chunk of power from 3k all the way to 8200. that has to be one responsive car to drive. what kind of times have you got on the strip or 30-130 or even 0-100?
shaun - do you think cossie heads help the turbo spool quicker? than your vvt heads.what kind of fuel are you using? thats a nice chunk of power from 3k all the way to 8200. that has to be one responsive car to drive. what kind of times have you got on the strip or 30-130 or even 0-100?
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Mus I am based in Wanstead, East London. Whereabouts are you from?
Simon aka JGM will be mapping the car on Friday hopefully!
I spent a couple of hours on the car today, fitted the turbo and up-pipe, modified the intercooler pipework, changed the oil & coolant.
I will need to fit some inlet manifold spacers as the inlet pipe doesn't line up with the turbo. How hard a job is this? Anyone done this on a newage? Where can i get the parts asap?
After that is sorted, i will be fitting a fuelab fpr and a higher flowing lateral supplied walbro pump.
Simon aka JGM will be mapping the car on Friday hopefully!
I spent a couple of hours on the car today, fitted the turbo and up-pipe, modified the intercooler pipework, changed the oil & coolant.
I will need to fit some inlet manifold spacers as the inlet pipe doesn't line up with the turbo. How hard a job is this? Anyone done this on a newage? Where can i get the parts asap?
After that is sorted, i will be fitting a fuelab fpr and a higher flowing lateral supplied walbro pump.
I may have those in stock! give me a call Monday morning.
Alan
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Harry im from tottenham broadwater farm not too far from wood green.
shaun - do you think cossie heads help the turbo spool quicker? than your vvt heads.what kind of fuel are you using? thats a nice chunk of power from 3k all the way to 8200. that has to be one responsive car to drive. what kind of times have you got on the strip or 30-130 or even 0-100?
shaun - do you think cossie heads help the turbo spool quicker? than your vvt heads.what kind of fuel are you using? thats a nice chunk of power from 3k all the way to 8200. that has to be one responsive car to drive. what kind of times have you got on the strip or 30-130 or even 0-100?
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Just my pennies worth .
My mate billsandhu has this turbo as a few of you well know. I have had some very fast cars 11.7 on quartr mile and 180+ aet turbo, md321t, gt30, ect ect i drove bills car late last night and i was very shocked with the power slight lag upto 4k but then it kicked in not neck jurking which was nice but kicked in and held to over 7k revs in most gears, I was on a very small road indeed,I cant say my speed but the speed over distance covered was crazy Well done to my mate bill and also to the company who have produced this ...
My mate billsandhu has this turbo as a few of you well know. I have had some very fast cars 11.7 on quartr mile and 180+ aet turbo, md321t, gt30, ect ect i drove bills car late last night and i was very shocked with the power slight lag upto 4k but then it kicked in not neck jurking which was nice but kicked in and held to over 7k revs in most gears, I was on a very small road indeed,I cant say my speed but the speed over distance covered was crazy Well done to my mate bill and also to the company who have produced this ...
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shaun - do you think cossie heads help the turbo spool quicker? than your vvt heads.what kind of fuel are you using? thats a nice chunk of power from 3k all the way to 8200. that has to be one responsive car to drive. what kind of times have you got on the strip or 30-130 or even 0-100?
I am using straight VPower. No additives or funny fuels.
I have not done any performance times on the latest engine/turbo spec (but will do), but my car came 1st overall today at ScoobySprint Round 4, on a track that was short and very very twisty. Response and low down grunt was key, as far as the engine was concerned and it managed to come 1st whilst still only on LOW BOOST of 1.5bar.
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I had the S206 turbo supplied and fitted, with all neccessary pipework for marginally more than what the MD321T costs supply only.
I know getting additional pipework etc can be costly but enginetuner were very sensible in their pricing, and offered me great value for money when everything was taken into consideration.