Andy, i see your point entirely, i just wanted to reiterate that at the power levels you are talking about, even with the best workmanship, you may still have running issues. The errors you list are schoolboy stuff, and i can say that i have made similar mistakes on my own car over the years, but thats usually when i have been rushing, its very late/early in the morning and i am running out of time before an event.

I do hope you get it sorted before the weekend, i know what its like to not attend an event you have planned for ages. Hopefully see you Sunday, come say hi.

James, so just under two years then . Out of interest, what happened at Snetterton, as when i was following Simon round the top corner his car suddenly started smoking and constant flames from the exhaust before he pulled off the circuit. Never asked Simon what went wrong.

 

I have to confess to being a little confused here?

Despite making generally interesting reading, what relevance do those links have to this thread?
One shows how a guy screwed his own engine up due to sheer incompetence (which I'm sure he appreciates you highlighting again for his embarrasment Banny).

The other shows an engine that we built, which lasted into a second season of time attack and endless hard use at circa 600BHP I believe, for (18 months?) and then only failed after somebody cracked an oil pick-up pipe fitting a new sump?

Neither of those seem relevant to Andy's or Arthur's situations here?


Mike.

 

Another mastery of non facts Mike - well done

The car was running circa 460bhp on various of your turbos until I upgraded to one of Lateral's MD321 series turbos and the power improved to 540 bhp (and more significantly the torque shot up).

Failure was not down to a cracked oil feed pipe unlike the one that was cracked when you first fitted it and you told me that 50 psi on cruise on the way back from picking the car up from you was within Subaru technical guidelines of acceptability. Good job I have checked and changed it myself else it would not have lasted a few weeks let alone the time it did last.

Please get your facts right if you are coming on here to try to discredit me.

 

Taken from your own words Duncan, not mine
Timeline indicated by you was....
... a Lateral Performance baffled sump was fitted the week afterwards - this solved this issue.

2. a split oil pick up pipe diagnosed last week and changed last saturday in the glorious rain at Knockhill.

3. 5 hot laps on a dying engine at Knockhill...

So, I think it's fair to conclude that the engine failed after you changed the sump and developed a split oil pick up pipe (no doubt during the course of changing the sump), it's fair to conclude that, because that's what YOU said.

A poor design on the baffled cosworth sump was the cause of the cracked oil pick up on your car originally, not trying to discredit anyone, shame that you can't claim the same.

Again though, despite your rudeness to me, I'm sure Andy/Arthur will appreciate you hi-jacking their thread and your pointless attempt at mud slinging.


Mike.

 

If you had read my posts properly you would have also have read that the true damage was caused prior to the sump being fitted. We had hoped that the poor oil pressure on the run up to KH was a pick up pipe - but the one that I removed, although had an extremely small hairline crack in it - it was nothing compared size wise to the massive crack in the one that you seemed happy for me to drive around on.

After changing the pipe it was no better from an oil pressure point of view and I conclude that the pickup pipe was not effecting it. As proven on the in the first session on the day that the engine went, this was not the issue and the damage had already been done. I was lucky to get 5 laps out of it on the day and only good support from Zen and Lateral meant that I made it through those to get a podium against the odds.

As for the design of the cosworth baffle - look around for other examples of it being an issue and they do not exist. That baffle/windage tray works very well.

As to whether it is hijacking - I will let others decide that. Just because it doesnt relate to the original point of Arthur's thread, it is related to a further post made by him.

As to being rude to you - when you purposefully try to discredit me to try I will defend myself.

 

Sorry - just to make the facts correct... having re-read my email to you and response on the day after I picked mine up - I got no higher then 45psi all the way back from Nottingham and you said that 43psi was within tolerances and not to worry about it.

 

[QUOTE=P20SPD;8833761]Andy, i see your point entirely, i just wanted to reiterate that at the power levels you are talking about, even with the best workmanship, you may still have running issues. The errors you list are schoolboy stuff, and i can say that i have made similar mistakes on my own car over the years, but thats usually when i have been rushing, its very late/early in the morning and i am running out of time before an event.

I do hope you get it sorted before the weekend, i know what its like to not attend an event you have planned for ages. Hopefully see you Sunday, come say hi.

thanks for the honest reply steven, i am sure that over the years you have encountered these problems mate, but it was a bit of a lot to handle for me all at once, if you no what i meen,

i will come and see you on sunday for a chat. good luck with new spec on lat car.

update on my problems.

we have found out the reason that my car had a drastic oil leak onto my up pipe, it was the -6 unions on my power stering pipe were finger tight. amazing
i am quite sure now that the junior that fitted my engine actually fitted it with just his box spanner that he got free with his bmx for christmas.

end of rant

duncan and mike
can you both please put your dummys back in( no offence intended ) and if this 3 month old issue is still an issue can you please carry it on on the other 2 convienient threads posted up by the one and only banny,who also has no relivance to this thread.

steven says that chy was to busy to do marks engine ???
chy must of been realy busy to make mark take a cosiderable number of engines to teg there is more to this than a lot of you think, i am just the icing on the cake

i have made my long hard decision and i am breaking my car after totb
the main reason incompitent subaru specialist and being missinformed about celing hight of bhp on a subaru engine

 

Andy please do not break the car even though its in my intrest to do so

stick with it scooby teknix will sort it and we,ll have some fun next year when i,m whipping your **** not only on the track but on the way down there with my transit sport

 

i only have an astra van to tow my trailer, although its quite a small van, there is loads of room in the back for my box spanner set, so i can help you if any of your parts fall off on track, i will also be able to fit a pair of mole grips in the van aswell just incase you have catascrofic engine failure

andy h

 

this car will not be broke,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i will personally buy it myself,,

My RA-r is nearlly gone,, and having seen the stress first hand with the problems associated,, we as well as Andy have gone through far too much to chop it,,,

i have drove the car today and it is awesome,,,

So stop your moaning mr hughes and get yourself ready for weekend ;-)

Andy- scoobyteknix

 

well said andy, you do no how to cheer me up

thank god i can trust you and scoobyteknix

 

Andy,


Please read the following very carefully, because you are ignoring the facts, and posting misinformation !



Steven was quite clear with his reply !



This was ignored..........


[QUOTE=andyscoobym3;8834973]
So, to reiterate:


Stuart at TEG Sport kindly offered to build my short engine, as he wanted to help me out, because Chy was too busy. This is the ONLY engine I have taken, or have any intention of taking from Chy, and the ONLYengine Teg Sport have been given to build, but I wouldn't hesitate to have them do more work for me, should it be appropriate.

ALL the boxes of parts you have seen up at TEG are from my engine. The 450bhp graph you were shown, was from a Teg customer, with parts supplied by Lateral to Teg.

Pete Whitfield did me a special favour, and ported a set of heads over a weekend, so they would be ready in time to complete the engine build.


Chy will continue to do certain work for me, when he's not too busy.

I hope that clears it up for you.


Mark.

 

Oi !

You lot !

This is supposed to be a regional forum....

Not a war zone....

But seriously Arf's engine never made it beyond 550 bhp, so should have been alright ?

All the wise people who have posted seem to agree this is a reasonable figure for a reliable road car ?

I'd like to have a go, but the whole issue of oil consumption and reliability seems a little too random for my liking.

But best of luck to all those pushing the Evos to destruction at TOTB this weekend.

dunx

 

mark@lateral QUOTED

ALL the boxes of parts you have seen up at TEG are from my engine. The 450bhp graph you were shown, was from a Teg customer, with parts supplied by Lateral to Teg.


mark
i dont know from what source you think i get my information from, but it is very clear to me that you are a million miles away on this one

i put this down to a bit of mistaken identity on your behalf,
i have never seen any boxes at teg,because i have only ever stood at the door at teg once in my life
and as for a 450 bhp graph, you have lost me on that one

anyway mark, it wasnt me that involved you in this thread, it was you that stuck your nose in, gossiping to jag on the phone

JP4 QUOTE
19 July 2009, 11:46
I have also spoken to Mark at Lateral Performance this morning to get some feedback and clarity, and I think you both will find he disagrees with quite a lot of your statements made

this is why i put , "what the hell has it got to do with him"



note to all
i went public on this thread to tell people about the very poor service that i recieved from pennine subaru chy, i appriciate you are only giving your opinion on this thread however this thread was to help other subaru owners out, everything i have put in this thread about my problems are 100% FACTS

ANDY H

 

I know where I'm NOT taking my car!!!

 

hmmmm were wont that be then.

 

My house, he's seen the state of my hammer....

LOL

dunx

 

Thanks for the thread, its helped me out no end, you have at least told me where to avoid for my engine issues.

 

TBH, Chy could probably screw a std. one back together in his sleep... if he had time to get any sleep !

LOL

dunx

 

hope thats not a little dig at chy there dunx,you know how some people go running back and telling him things now dont you.

 

Listern im new to this game, but clearly he knows his stuff, he's almost a millionaire, especially at cash only sales!!! Hello Mr Vat free...... Mok as we may, he makes a living by Subaru re-builds, good or bad he pays the bills and makes his way ... if your not appy with Chy offers do as i have, take the advice and look elsewhere.... Im pleased that I have not used Chy thus have saved a few grand!! I may put a couple of grand on the Lottery on Saturday, I here i get better odds of a good retuen... sorry couldnt resist.... Seeya all Sunday if your there, Rob 0752 20 20 500.... still need and engine lol

 

good point dunx

quick update on my car

we took the car to get mapped today at dastek dyno at chorley, andrew carr and edmy were mapping it, so we got it on the rollers and did a quick run to see how it was after the cam timing had been altered, then made a few adjustments and did another run, when the revs stuck on full so instantly edmy switched off, then we had a look at the throttle body, and it was still stuck open full, so we took off the intercooler pipework and to my horror we found a 13mm spanner wedged in the throttle body butterfly,this is not a joke now, its getting dangerous, this could of killed someone, if i was mapping on the road.

now i cant believe that this is a mistake from chy, nobody could possibly put a 13mm spanner in my pipework by accident, i have asked chy once before if he is doing all these errors on purpose and he said no, but this proves it to me that he is.

i will be seeking legal advise on monday, and also speaking to trading standards.

andy h

 

Right you lot.. Take it else where i'm ****ed off seeing all this **** sliging..

One WYIOC MEMBER.. told all his mates that is car was ****ed again. Now some of you have used this forum as fight club and slaged each other off. So for all them like me who could not give a ****e if they have 550~650bhp (First learn to use what you have )


**** OFF AND FIGHT OVER YOUR BIGEND SOMEWHER ELSE

Arf Hope you get it sorted mate..

 

dear dave
i am adding to this thread to help others
you are obviously aware that pennine subaru is based in yorkshire
this thread will cary on until i have no more issues

again, i am adding to this thread to help others !!!

 

No dig intended, as stated a std. engine would be nowt to him, but he's too busy with the big budget stuff....

dunx

 

Dave. some times you'v got to keep the ball rolling so fellow scoob owners no where, or not where to go,

Let the rant continue,


Next please

 

I wasnt aware that foums were for idle chit chat only.... This seems to me to be clear case of s garage that is either not capable of fullfilling customer requests (lack of skills maybe) or that they are afte repeat customers...... ££££, either way people need to know right??? I for one are very pleased about this thread........ good work all... Rob

 

Well carry it on else where. Or with the person you have a problem with..

I don't take my car to any east/west/noth or south yorkshire subaru garages.. don't trust any of them they all think they know everything. unless its a subaru dealer. so you are obviously wrong about me knowing pennine!!! I think my car goes very well. but if it broke down i would not come on here ranting on about it.... i'd go get it fixed!! after all they are just souped up road cars..... unless you are top of your game and compete in some sort of event... I've been to blyton today and had lots of fun out on track with some great pals... and come back to this ****e on the WYIOC forum again

 

Sounds like your having a midlife crisis...... Its a forum.. people talk and give views.... With wanting to repeat myself, SN has saved me ££££ by reading reviews nad peoples experiences, so thanks to all, without your honest opinions im sure i would have taken the wrong advise. I will take my talk elsewhere so not to upset you once again, Sorry for hijacking your thread !!! lol Rob

 

LOL you will have to forgive Dave, he is a quiet bloke, who wouldn't come on a forum to discuss his engine problems....

The lucky bugger got excellent support from a dealer because of a faulty part !

He would advise you to talk to Powerstation because they were one of the first to run a big BHP motor reliably, TA winners IIRC

ALL IMHO

dunx