Help !!! Killed the Scoob !
28 April 2010, 12:00 PM
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well done mate, I expect or the heart ache has dwindled when you push the loud pedal now. I have re read this a few times and really impressed how you have held out 
I can only imagine now you will want to keep it?? I know how you feel about the engine though, you can get an easily tuneable Evo for the money spent but then it's just not a Scooby!! I have been looking at the 2.1 Stroker kit to make the engine bullet proof for the power I am running (same as you) but you just gotta justify the cost, not that you ever will but you're just feel better about spending the money
28 April 2010, 12:20 PM
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Hi mate, well done for sticking it out you have come a long way and you didnt give in. It just goes to show if your stick in there and dont give up it all pays off,
ps if only i read this thread alot earlier as i only live down the road in blackburn i would have given you a hand.
ps if only i read this thread alot earlier as i only live down the road in blackburn i would have given you a hand.
28 April 2010, 10:31 PM
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Thanks for all the advice, help and support guys.
I went out on my own for a blast tonight and the way it drives after Simons mapping has made it all worthwhile !
Just a shame it has taken 10 months longer than I expected to get to this stage.
I now need to make time to sort the brakes and suspension and start buying the bits for a bomb proof engine to get me to 400/400 !
I went out on my own for a blast tonight and the way it drives after Simons mapping has made it all worthwhile !
Just a shame it has taken 10 months longer than I expected to get to this stage.
I now need to make time to sort the brakes and suspension and start buying the bits for a bomb proof engine to get me to 400/400 !
31 May 2010, 09:11 PM
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Oh no not again !
Ended up on the back of a transporter yesterday.
From what I can see, one of the rocker cover bolts has sheared off so it dumped loads of oil all over the exhaust manifold.
The engine will have to come out to gain access to remove the broken off bolt, I can also investigate the strange 'creaking' noise from the clutch at the same time.
I am at a major crossroads !
Even my patience is wearing thin now, one thing after another and no light at the end of the tunnel.
I have a few options and really struggling to know what to do ?
1. Remove the engine, fix the leak and sell the car as it is or put it back to near standard and sell my mods separately. I can get a stupid deal through work on a new Focus ST2 (£16,299 and 3.9 APR PCP scheme)
2. Remove the engine, fix the leak and keep it, my worry is that with the increased power and torque from the remap, the gearbox is on borrowed time ?
3. I have been offered a 'cheap' 2.5 Sti short block and have most of the spare bits to build it up into a complete engine. It still has the standard pistons but with a sensible map (errrrr...., Simon ?) and my other current mods, I figure I should be okay. The worry, as above, is that I will also need the 6 speed box to handle the torque from the 2.5.
By the time I buy a second hand STi 6-speed box and the 2.5, I will have spent more than the car is worth !
Advice please ladies and gentlemen of Scoobynet !
Ended up on the back of a transporter yesterday.
From what I can see, one of the rocker cover bolts has sheared off so it dumped loads of oil all over the exhaust manifold.
The engine will have to come out to gain access to remove the broken off bolt, I can also investigate the strange 'creaking' noise from the clutch at the same time.
I am at a major crossroads !
Even my patience is wearing thin now, one thing after another and no light at the end of the tunnel.
I have a few options and really struggling to know what to do ?
1. Remove the engine, fix the leak and sell the car as it is or put it back to near standard and sell my mods separately. I can get a stupid deal through work on a new Focus ST2 (£16,299 and 3.9 APR PCP scheme)
2. Remove the engine, fix the leak and keep it, my worry is that with the increased power and torque from the remap, the gearbox is on borrowed time ?
3. I have been offered a 'cheap' 2.5 Sti short block and have most of the spare bits to build it up into a complete engine. It still has the standard pistons but with a sensible map (errrrr...., Simon ?) and my other current mods, I figure I should be okay. The worry, as above, is that I will also need the 6 speed box to handle the torque from the 2.5.
By the time I buy a second hand STi 6-speed box and the 2.5, I will have spent more than the car is worth !
Advice please ladies and gentlemen of Scoobynet !
31 May 2010, 10:15 PM
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Oh no not again !
Ended up on the back of a transporter yesterday.
From what I can see, one of the rocker cover bolts has sheared off so it dumped loads of oil all over the exhaust manifold.
The engine will have to come out to gain access to remove the broken off bolt, I can also investigate the strange 'creaking' noise from the clutch at the same time.
I am at a major crossroads !
Even my patience is wearing thin now, one thing after another and no light at the end of the tunnel.
I have a few options and really struggling to know what to do ?
1. Remove the engine, fix the leak and sell the car as it is or put it back to near standard and sell my mods separately. I can get a stupid deal through work on a new Focus ST2 (£16,299 and 3.9 APR PCP scheme)
2. Remove the engine, fix the leak and keep it, my worry is that with the increased power and torque from the remap, the gearbox is on borrowed time ?
3. I have been offered a 'cheap' 2.5 Sti short block and have most of the spare bits to build it up into a complete engine. It still has the standard pistons but with a sensible map (errrrr...., Simon ?) and my other current mods, I figure I should be okay. The worry, as above, is that I will also need the 6 speed box to handle the torque from the 2.5.
By the time I buy a second hand STi 6-speed box and the 2.5, I will have spent more than the car is worth !
Advice please ladies and gentlemen of Scoobynet !
Ended up on the back of a transporter yesterday.
From what I can see, one of the rocker cover bolts has sheared off so it dumped loads of oil all over the exhaust manifold.
The engine will have to come out to gain access to remove the broken off bolt, I can also investigate the strange 'creaking' noise from the clutch at the same time.
I am at a major crossroads !
Even my patience is wearing thin now, one thing after another and no light at the end of the tunnel.
I have a few options and really struggling to know what to do ?
1. Remove the engine, fix the leak and sell the car as it is or put it back to near standard and sell my mods separately. I can get a stupid deal through work on a new Focus ST2 (£16,299 and 3.9 APR PCP scheme)
2. Remove the engine, fix the leak and keep it, my worry is that with the increased power and torque from the remap, the gearbox is on borrowed time ?
3. I have been offered a 'cheap' 2.5 Sti short block and have most of the spare bits to build it up into a complete engine. It still has the standard pistons but with a sensible map (errrrr...., Simon ?) and my other current mods, I figure I should be okay. The worry, as above, is that I will also need the 6 speed box to handle the torque from the 2.5.
By the time I buy a second hand STi 6-speed box and the 2.5, I will have spent more than the car is worth !
Advice please ladies and gentlemen of Scoobynet !
If you've really had enough of the car you only have two options really that will cure any worry.
1, fix and sell as is.
or
2, break it and sell it off chunk by chunk. (if you have the time and energy that is)
Shame to see it has come to this
31 May 2010, 10:48 PM
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I should have started with the STi when I bought this one !
I never thought that the tuning bug would bite me so hard.
I have considered buying a Bugeye STi but it's a pain in the a**e to find a decent one.
Some of the potential problems like bottom end failure are still a risk.
We have a 2006 STi Spec 'D' at one of our dealers, I could buy it for about £11k I think but still the worries about piston failure on the 2.5's if I start to tune that ?
The Focus is a no brainer really, £5,500 off list and 3.9 APR.
I just know that I would get bored very quickly with 225 BHP and then want to tune it, goodbye warranty and with it most of the reason for buying a new car !
It would 'break' my heart to break the car (pardon the pun) but I have the facilities at work to do it if necessary, any idea what it would be worth in bits ?
What would someone pay for it with the mods left on once it's repaired or how much less put back to standard ?
It's an enthusiast type of car so hard to value in the trade (not worth any more to us with £000's worth of mods over a standard car)
I am also stubborn so still don't want to admit defeat !
The temptation at the moment is to repeatedly hit it with a large hammer, pointless but ultimately very satisfying (think Basil Fawlty but with a 14lb sledge instead of a tree branch !)
I never thought that the tuning bug would bite me so hard.
I have considered buying a Bugeye STi but it's a pain in the a**e to find a decent one.
Some of the potential problems like bottom end failure are still a risk.
We have a 2006 STi Spec 'D' at one of our dealers, I could buy it for about £11k I think but still the worries about piston failure on the 2.5's if I start to tune that ?
The Focus is a no brainer really, £5,500 off list and 3.9 APR.
I just know that I would get bored very quickly with 225 BHP and then want to tune it, goodbye warranty and with it most of the reason for buying a new car !
It would 'break' my heart to break the car (pardon the pun) but I have the facilities at work to do it if necessary, any idea what it would be worth in bits ?
What would someone pay for it with the mods left on once it's repaired or how much less put back to standard ?
It's an enthusiast type of car so hard to value in the trade (not worth any more to us with £000's worth of mods over a standard car)
I am also stubborn so still don't want to admit defeat !
The temptation at the moment is to repeatedly hit it with a large hammer, pointless but ultimately very satisfying (think Basil Fawlty but with a 14lb sledge instead of a tree branch !)
31 May 2010, 10:58 PM
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It's up to you buddy, i never admit defeat to a piece of metal.
It's really what your heart tells you.
Remember the cost of repayments, initial outlay blah blah.
Will the above stop you from getting one??
If the answer is yes then you might aswell fix up the "old girl" to a standard guise and flog her.
As we all know mods on a car never reflect it's resale value really.
You'd do better selling them on here to us vultures!!
31 May 2010, 11:30 PM
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In about 10 years time you will look back at this hole thing and laugh!! You seem like a really sound bloke and I have just spent an hour reading the entire post which is very difficult as people keep adding things!! Hope you get it sorted but you have given me some laughs. You will a Subaru fault finding expert when you finish
01 June 2010, 09:34 PM
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Sorry to hear that your troubles have come back to bite you buddy 
. It's a shame to see some1 put plenty of graft and cash into it and go a lot further than most people would with it (including me!!) , to see it all go wrong. But unfortunately some scooby's just like the taste of your wallet, simple as that - there's no stopping them once they've had a taste!!! - Bet your scoob knows your credit card num's off by heart!! Could be worse though...
Just think if your scooby hadn't have had all these problems you wouldn't have got it to anywhere near the power its at now right?? .. I know you'd probably be a lot richer but we'll ignore that for a second...
So its given you a taste for power, so what?? its forced you into learning all about how scoob's work etc, so if you were to buy another you'd know exactly what to look for and the signs of troubles ahead too right??
If it were me the absolute last thing i would do is get a focus. You've already said you'd wanna tune it sharpish an as soon as you've got another 100ish horsies you'll be fighting miiiles of horrible tyre shreading understeer - (makes me cringe just thinking about it!!) You can only go so far with front wheel drive, before you get torque steer, wheel spin in 1st second third... i could see buying front tyres every fortnight getting a bit boring!!! And then after all that (and spending even more cash) at that point you'll be saying 'why oh why did i get rid of the scoob?!?!'
Hard decision but like you've already said you could strip it...? If your after recouping some of your spent cash this is the best way to go as you'll get a lot more for it than selling it as a working scoob... Its just whether or not you can bring yourself to do it? Its a shame to see a scooby end in a pile of bits, BUT if the cash you get back leads you on to buying a decent spec STI then surely its all good right??
....Just think of the money you could spend and the power you could achieve from a sorted STI.......
. It's a shame to see some1 put plenty of graft and cash into it and go a lot further than most people would with it (including me!!) , to see it all go wrong. But unfortunately some scooby's just like the taste of your wallet, simple as that - there's no stopping them once they've had a taste!!! - Bet your scoob knows your credit card num's off by heart!! Could be worse though... Just think if your scooby hadn't have had all these problems you wouldn't have got it to anywhere near the power its at now right?? .. I know you'd probably be a lot richer but we'll ignore that for a second...
So its given you a taste for power, so what?? its forced you into learning all about how scoob's work etc, so if you were to buy another you'd know exactly what to look for and the signs of troubles ahead too right??
If it were me the absolute last thing i would do is get a focus. You've already said you'd wanna tune it sharpish an as soon as you've got another 100ish horsies you'll be fighting miiiles of horrible tyre shreading understeer - (makes me cringe just thinking about it!!) You can only go so far with front wheel drive, before you get torque steer, wheel spin in 1st second third... i could see buying front tyres every fortnight getting a bit boring!!! And then after all that (and spending even more cash) at that point you'll be saying 'why oh why did i get rid of the scoob?!?!'
Hard decision but like you've already said you could strip it...? If your after recouping some of your spent cash this is the best way to go as you'll get a lot more for it than selling it as a working scoob... Its just whether or not you can bring yourself to do it? Its a shame to see a scooby end in a pile of bits, BUT if the cash you get back leads you on to buying a decent spec STI then surely its all good right??
....Just think of the money you could spend and the power you could achieve from a sorted STI.......
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01 June 2010, 10:37 PM
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My long suffering (almost 25 years !) other half is at the far end with my car fixation.
She likes to drive something quick, a 'normal' car would be a no-go.
The Focus would be okay but I would not be happy with a standard car so back to spending money to make it quicker !
She doesn't want me to spend fortunes on the Impreza but on the other hand doesn't want the additional monthly outlay on a new car ?
I can't win !
It's 'her car' until something goes wrong and then the ownership changes to me quicker than the DVLA can blink !
My attitude is pretty much that of Prince Vultan (Brian Blessed) in the classic 'Flash Gordon' "Ah well..........who wants to live forever ?"
I don't drink, smoke or gamble and work a lot of hours under a lot of pressure to earn my money, I just want to get the thing back on the road and stay there !
She likes to drive something quick, a 'normal' car would be a no-go.
The Focus would be okay but I would not be happy with a standard car so back to spending money to make it quicker !
She doesn't want me to spend fortunes on the Impreza but on the other hand doesn't want the additional monthly outlay on a new car ?
I can't win !
It's 'her car' until something goes wrong and then the ownership changes to me quicker than the DVLA can blink !
My attitude is pretty much that of Prince Vultan (Brian Blessed) in the classic 'Flash Gordon' "Ah well..........who wants to live forever ?"
I don't drink, smoke or gamble and work a lot of hours under a lot of pressure to earn my money, I just want to get the thing back on the road and stay there !
01 June 2010, 10:50 PM
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It's a bug wrx mate, that will never happen! I'd say sell it standard (fix the leak first though!) Then invest in a tidy bug sti and use that a a nice strong base to fettle with! They are just so much more capable than our little monkey motors from the start!!
01 June 2010, 10:56 PM
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My long suffering (almost 25 years !) other half is at the far end with my car fixation.
She likes to drive something quick, a 'normal' car would be a no-go.
The Focus would be okay but I would not be happy with a standard car so back to spending money to make it quicker !
She doesn't want me to spend fortunes on the Impreza but on the other hand doesn't want the additional monthly outlay on a new car ?
I can't win !
It's 'her car' until something goes wrong and then the ownership changes to me quicker than the DVLA can blink !
My attitude is pretty much that of Prince Vultan (Brian Blessed) in the classic 'Flash Gordon' "Ah well..........who wants to live forever ?"
I don't drink, smoke or gamble and work a lot of hours under a lot of pressure to earn my money, I just want to get the thing back on the road and stay there !
She likes to drive something quick, a 'normal' car would be a no-go.
The Focus would be okay but I would not be happy with a standard car so back to spending money to make it quicker !
She doesn't want me to spend fortunes on the Impreza but on the other hand doesn't want the additional monthly outlay on a new car ?
I can't win !
It's 'her car' until something goes wrong and then the ownership changes to me quicker than the DVLA can blink !
My attitude is pretty much that of Prince Vultan (Brian Blessed) in the classic 'Flash Gordon' "Ah well..........who wants to live forever ?"
I don't drink, smoke or gamble and work a lot of hours under a lot of pressure to earn my money, I just want to get the thing back on the road and stay there !
your missus needs to try a new one or second hand my wifes just got a vectra vxr with bluefin leaves mine for dead the torque on newer cars is amazing ive drove golf 170 and from o 60 rapid i do a lot off motorway driving so the scoob dosnt get pushed if i was doing school runs etc and drivingnot over 70 id get the above my mate is running a 450 bhp turbo and he says he is goin to get rid cos the only difference in power is when you reach 100mph i agree with him
02 June 2010, 11:16 PM
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'Herself' has got the face on proper !
I calmly suggested that a six speed and 2.5 short motor at the same time was a rational future proofing exercise, to say she is not in agreement would be like saying that Julian Clarey is a tad camp !
Looks like engine out, fix the leak and take a chance on the gearbox.
I hate my life.............................................. .........................
As a separate point, what would be the benefit of starting again with a Bug STi ?
It already has the six speed but I already have a lot of the STi bits already fitted or waiting to go on.
Sti interior, front brembos, pink injectors, STi suspension, bigger intercooler, VF35 turbo, etc.
The Sti has the AVCS heads, forged pistons (I think ?) and, as already stated, the 6 speed box already in situ.
If I was starting again from scratch, I would have the STi like a shot and save a lot of messing but having already sourced a lot of the bits, I might as well carry on !
I am off for a prolonged spell of sulking with occasional outbursts of irrational bad temper moving in from the south !
I calmly suggested that a six speed and 2.5 short motor at the same time was a rational future proofing exercise, to say she is not in agreement would be like saying that Julian Clarey is a tad camp !
Looks like engine out, fix the leak and take a chance on the gearbox.
I hate my life.............................................. .........................
As a separate point, what would be the benefit of starting again with a Bug STi ?
It already has the six speed but I already have a lot of the STi bits already fitted or waiting to go on.
Sti interior, front brembos, pink injectors, STi suspension, bigger intercooler, VF35 turbo, etc.
The Sti has the AVCS heads, forged pistons (I think ?) and, as already stated, the 6 speed box already in situ.
If I was starting again from scratch, I would have the STi like a shot and save a lot of messing but having already sourced a lot of the bits, I might as well carry on !
I am off for a prolonged spell of sulking with occasional outbursts of irrational bad temper moving in from the south !
02 June 2010, 11:26 PM
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'Herself' has got the face on proper !
I calmly suggested that a six speed and 2.5 short motor at the same time was a rational future proofing exercise, to say she is not in agreement would be like saying that Julian Clarey is a tad camp !
Looks like engine out, fix the leak and take a chance on the gearbox.
I hate my life.............................................. .........................
As a separate point, what would be the benefit of starting again with a Bug STi ?
It already has the six speed but I already have a lot of the STi bits already fitted or waiting to go on.
Sti interior, front brembos, pink injectors, STi suspension, bigger intercooler, VF35 turbo, etc.
The Sti has the AVCS heads, forged pistons (I think ?) and, as already stated, the 6 speed box already in situ.
If I was starting again from scratch, I would have the STi like a shot and save a lot of messing but having already sourced a lot of the bits, I might as well carry on !
I am off for a prolonged spell of sulking with occasional outbursts of irrational bad temper moving in from the south !
I calmly suggested that a six speed and 2.5 short motor at the same time was a rational future proofing exercise, to say she is not in agreement would be like saying that Julian Clarey is a tad camp !
Looks like engine out, fix the leak and take a chance on the gearbox.
I hate my life.............................................. .........................
As a separate point, what would be the benefit of starting again with a Bug STi ?
It already has the six speed but I already have a lot of the STi bits already fitted or waiting to go on.
Sti interior, front brembos, pink injectors, STi suspension, bigger intercooler, VF35 turbo, etc.
The Sti has the AVCS heads, forged pistons (I think ?) and, as already stated, the 6 speed box already in situ.
If I was starting again from scratch, I would have the STi like a shot and save a lot of messing but having already sourced a lot of the bits, I might as well carry on !
I am off for a prolonged spell of sulking with occasional outbursts of irrational bad temper moving in from the south !
02 June 2010, 11:31 PM
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why not try new gasket/half moons and 1215 threebond sealer spend plenty time getting it clean and dry see what happens you never now,
creaking my be the pivot shaft that holds the fork in place either dry or little worn and creaking against the casing.
creaking my be the pivot shaft that holds the fork in place either dry or little worn and creaking against the casing.
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why not try new gasket/half moons and 1215 threebond sealer spend plenty time getting it clean and dry see what happens you never now,
creaking my be the pivot shaft that holds the fork in place either dry or little worn and creaking against the casing.
2 years ago i done a cover for someone that was dripping 1 litre a week as gasket was ripped and non genuine gasket, reused gasket using threebond sealer and still sealed today
creaking my be the pivot shaft that holds the fork in place either dry or little worn and creaking against the casing.
2 years ago i done a cover for someone that was dripping 1 litre a week as gasket was ripped and non genuine gasket, reused gasket using threebond sealer and still sealed today
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its the owner that makes the bomb tick every car has its limits ,push a focus st to 300bhp and see how long it takes to break, i owned one and came back to the scooby as there just not that strong .
03 June 2010, 12:30 AM
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why not try new gasket/half moons and 1215 threebond sealer spend plenty time getting it clean and dry see what happens you never now,
creaking my be the pivot shaft that holds the fork in place either dry or little worn and creaking against the casing.
2 years ago i done a cover for someone that was dripping 1 litre a week as gasket was ripped and non genuine gasket, reused gasket using threebond sealer and still sealed today
creaking my be the pivot shaft that holds the fork in place either dry or little worn and creaking against the casing.
2 years ago i done a cover for someone that was dripping 1 litre a week as gasket was ripped and non genuine gasket, reused gasket using threebond sealer and still sealed today
I guess this time a smear of 1215 all round will be the key, I don't think the gaskets have split.
Can I re-use them after less than 2k miles ?
New ones on ebay for about £60 which seems expensive for 2 bits of rubber and the plug cover seals ?
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i always use it all way round both sides by lookin how much is on from factory they do too,put some on bolt seals too.
clean gasket up well and be ok
by only sealing half you could be making the seal uneven dont use to much sealer but dont be shy either
clean gasket up well and be ok
by only sealing half you could be making the seal uneven dont use to much sealer but dont be shy either
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I only used the threebond last time on the half moons and around front cam caps, I followed the instructions from the tech manual and used new gaskets and factory torque settings.
I guess this time a smear of 1215 all round will be the key, I don't think the gaskets have split.
Can I re-use them after less than 2k miles ?
New ones on ebay for about £60 which seems expensive for 2 bits of rubber and the plug cover seals ?
I guess this time a smear of 1215 all round will be the key, I don't think the gaskets have split.
Can I re-use them after less than 2k miles ?
New ones on ebay for about £60 which seems expensive for 2 bits of rubber and the plug cover seals ?
05 June 2010, 10:31 PM
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'Enginator 2 - Judgement Day'
Got off to a good start by sneaking up on it in the workshop, never knew what hit it !
I'm not going to rush it, just need some free time to get on with it !
The new up-pipe and downpipe gaskets have arrived as well as some spare rocker cover bolts, whilst the engine is out I am going to replace some of the pipework to the turbo as well.
As the bonus, the recent gasket failure has addressed the issue of underbody corrosion protection !
Underseal ? Pah................... I spit on your underseal !
Waxoyl ? Pah...................... It is for little girls !
The future is Mobil 1 at £55 per gallon, liberally sprayed all over the f*****g underside of the car.
As a bonus it also drips on the tiles so that you can fall on your a**e in the workshop, my........how we laughed !
I must go now, nurse is bringing my medication.
If only she would undo this stupid jacket ?
What is the point of it fastening at the back ?
Got off to a good start by sneaking up on it in the workshop, never knew what hit it !
I'm not going to rush it, just need some free time to get on with it !
The new up-pipe and downpipe gaskets have arrived as well as some spare rocker cover bolts, whilst the engine is out I am going to replace some of the pipework to the turbo as well.
As the bonus, the recent gasket failure has addressed the issue of underbody corrosion protection !
Underseal ? Pah................... I spit on your underseal !
Waxoyl ? Pah...................... It is for little girls !
The future is Mobil 1 at £55 per gallon, liberally sprayed all over the f*****g underside of the car.
As a bonus it also drips on the tiles so that you can fall on your a**e in the workshop, my........how we laughed !
I must go now, nurse is bringing my medication.
If only she would undo this stupid jacket ?
What is the point of it fastening at the back ?