dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

F*ck off and troll somewhere else you prize ****!

jonny_693

iTrader: (5)

FFS - Means For F*cks Sake.

HTH Jonny

Spoon

With humans displaying such ignorance as yourself that has to be one very good reason why people keep dogs as pets. Any engaging pet can enrich a life whereby I doubt you bring much in the way of enjoyment to anybody.

As for the food too, well it's moved on a great deal with the use of human grade meat and formulated vitamins and minerals. So poles apart from your uneducated assumption.

fatherpierre

No idea.

Why are politicians generally bent? Why is beer and petrol so expensive? Why can't we all afford a bigger house?

How the **** do I know?

I go to work on a packed, hot and smelly train every day, pack onto the tube with everyone else, and look in disgust at my payslip every month; wondering why I pay such a massive amount in tax for seemingly nothing in return.

I just work, do my best and sometimes get a bit of enjoyment when the sytem I am forced to use allows me.

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

ever considered becoming a motivational speaker ?

fatherpierre

How much should I charge?



If I had a penny for each instance of anti-police stuff I get thrown at me daily, I'd have enough to buy a pack of gum per month, at least.

Diesel

Ever dealt with CPS? Another recent one I saw on TV that would drive me mad (were I a copper) was a toerag car thief being caught on a Chinese takeaway's CCTV mowing down a chap at 9am in Swansea. Cops caught him, forensic nailed him (fingerprints in the dust INSIDE the steering column cowling...) - CPS dropped the case.

Sick.

D

fatherpierre

Daily. Often more than once.

There are ways to make it easier, but 95% of cases have to be put to them for decisions on charging now.

I'd give you details far worse than you've highlighted, but risk prosecution myself!

CPS are the barrier to get over before you can prosecute, but are so erratic and uneven in their decisions, meaning so much crime goes ignored/not prosecuted IMO.

ScoobyWon't

You can insult your own intelligence - should you have any.

At no point have I said I require anyone's sympathy for doing a job that I chose.

As for being a Royal Marine, good for you, one of the boys I work with used to be a Royal Marine until he was discharged on medical grounds and then joined the police. Funny thing is that he says he sees worse sights as a cop than he did as a marine.

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

Proving my point entirely, sh*t attitude and full of yourself. It would appear you are the same as the majority of your colleagues afterall, despite emphatically trying to convince us otherwise with your sob story. As for your mate, he's either talking crap or he didn't see any active service then. Mind you the fact he was MD'd means he probably didnt make the grade.

The worst things I've seen have been in the Balkans and Africa. The things that people do to each other in those places will haunt me for the rest of my days.


You carry on thinking you're different, you've proven with your opening statement that your nothing but an upstart idiot in a uniform.

As I said decent polite courteous down to earth coppers are very few and far between and you've highlighted that perfectly by clearly demonstrating the type of person the police service recruits these days.

Matteeboy

Hmmm - two guys who have dedicated a large chunk of their lives to protecting people, albeit in very different ways, having a huge **** flinging match about who had the hardest/nastiest/toughest job.

Had very limited experience of both - very different jobs but ultimately with the same overall aim.

Easy to lose sight of that and get irate for no good reason.

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

Firstly I've had a fair bit of experience with the police over a number of years, some of it on the wrong side but most of it in a professional capacity. I haven't formed my judgement because I've been stopped by a few over zealous traffic coppers in my time. My opinion is based on my personal dealings with them and in the majority of cases they have been proper *****. Its very seldom I've dealt with a fair reasonable officer that had no aggression no attitude and no sarcasm. Ironically one of the few times I have had dealings with what I'd call a decent copper was one of the times I got nicked for some spirited driving. I got 3 points and a £60 fine but he wasn't rude, had a sense of humour and was respectful.

As for your post Mattee, this isn't a pissing contest about who had the toughest job, I have nothing to prove and have no reason to go into detail. You're missing the context of why that was brought up entirely.

I'm assuming people think that I'm anti police, I'm not, far from it. What I am against is the way some of the officers conduct themselves and the way they think they have the right to talk to you like you're dirt.

This might suprise some people but my father was a prison officer for thirty years and I had two uncles that were in the police service so I was brought up to have a healthy respect for the law, which I still do. As said I just totally despise the attitude of the majority of today's coppers. That's all nothing more.

Leslie

I go along with what dazdavies says, I have met a good few coppers who had a very high opinion of themselves and behaved in a very objectional and superior manner. " Drest in brief authority" is how the old description went. I too have always respected the law, but don't take kindly to policemen being bombastic for no good reason.

Les

cster

Well done to you Daz.
You have managed to show your lack of intelligence in one sentence.
So much more succinct than your usual incoherant demonstrations.

cster

I think the first sentence (with reference to your own species in the third person) of your post gives a pretty good clue why people keep dogs as pets.
It is much easier for the socially inadequate to relate to the unconditional love shown by domesticated and dependant animals. Let's face it - dealing with humans can be a pretty intimidating business for some.
As for your pet eating "human grade meat" - well I bet that makes the pet food feel that it was all worthwhile.

richieh

I was going to respond to this having just come in from work and being a little tired and 'bitey'.
On re-reading however i dont see the need-youve proven yourself as a **** of the highest order by posting what you did.
If you dont understand it then I think you'll find that you are the one with the inadequacies be they social or penal, not the people who are condemning the needless suffering and death of a pair of highly trained valuable animals.
Sort of like a scote torching your car and beating you and your family to a pulp and seeing nothing wrong with it.
As you were
cheers richie

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

Praise indeed, thankyou.

Spoon

Pretty similar to what I was getting at except to change the words 'intimidating business' to 'incredibly tedious' in my case and I suspect many.

Or maybe it was a fact I pointed out to make your statement look totally lame and improper.

sbk1972

:-) I so love this website.

What a tremendous read, I love the arguements, and the sarcastic remarks, logical points of view, corrections, play on words / grammer, personal attacks, and insults.

Who said that scoobynet is boring nowadays ! :-)

You guys keep my dull work day exciting :-)

SBK

jasey

Who asked for your opinion you homo **** jockey

Spoon

Glad to help.

sbk1972

I think its the abillity of having common sense that makes a officer good or bad. I also find that many young officers have that hunger / urge to arrest someone, where as the older ones tend to step back and realise that a talking too sometimes is best.

Working with 800 of them every day, I reckon IVe got a pretty good take on them.

Although not a fan, I do respect the job they do, no one likes to be told off / nicked, so they are in a pretty thankless job. England would be a horrible place without them, just wish the few bad apples were filtered out during enrolement.

As for this dog handler, well no one is above the law, so I hope we see a prosecution or charges placed against him. If not, then it only fuels the argument of "One law for us, one law for them".

SBK




SBK

Diesel

Mate I've had coppers apologise when giving me tickets - it pained them! But I usually deserved it and took it with good grace.

I've been let off a properly clocked three figure speed with a 3 point special offer deal as I was driving "well".

I was pulled over by Blackfriars Bridge for a bit of earlier tyre chirping by a big squad of cops once - they thought it a stolen Scooby It all ended very amicably.

I think a lot of it is down to basic inter-human behaviour. If you kick off with WHAT!? rather than 'good morning', it may all end up downhill... Your objective should be to minimise damage not ensure it!!! Similarly, poorly executed assertiveness by young (short ) coppers, esp towards those far older than themselves, can set things downhill too...

Shades of grey...

D

dazdavies

iTrader: (22)

Not once have I started any conversation with a police officer with any thing other than politeness and respect. Had I taken the smart **** full off attitude approach then I would deserve to be spoken to the way they do.

However I've always been polite and respectful. Am I asking too much to expect the same in return?

hodgy0_2

This thread reminds me of that truism regarding the Donkey Sanctuary that receives more in donations that many Children’s charities

It’s a shame -- and I deplore any suffering, but im afraid animals come lower in my moral framework than human beings

The Police Officer should be treated no differently to any person that has a specific responsibility for the welfare of animals who falls woefully short in exercising that duty of care

Diesel

Does that just mean your moral framework is lower mate? (not being sarcy here).

Cruelty and suffering in BOTH make my blood boil and make me react.

D

Spoon

Don't be afraid, dogs sense that and will punish you.

hodgy0_2

no I don.t think so - the ***** often treated there dogs better than humans,

I would never inflict pain on any animal, absolutely the opposite, in fact we just paid a small fortune in vets bills to have piece of wood removed from one of our (inherited) cats hind legs

but i'm sorry to human suffering is more "painfull" to me than an animals