2 Police dogs die after being left in a van during hot weather
03 July 2009, 07:48 PM
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Why is ZERO being said about how/why this happened? Everyone is drawing the conclusion that the guy concerned was apathetic and sadistic, and was indeed probably munching doughnuts during an extended lunchbreak. That sort of assumption needs managing (if possible) but its all schtum...
It's beyond comprehension that a trained police dog handler could do this, and to TWO dogs - so what the hell caused this to happen!???
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It's beyond comprehension that a trained police dog handler could do this, and to TWO dogs - so what the hell caused this to happen!???
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two dogs being boiled in a pig van wont even make the piggy monthly newsletter.
03 July 2009, 08:33 PM
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I know who the handler is - name, collar number, length of service.
There is a huge amount of shock reverberating througout the force as many of us feel that we've lost two colleagues rather than just two dogs.
I'm not going to go in to the circumstances of these tragic deaths, but should anyone be worried what condidtions the dogs live in, I can tell you it's probably better than most of the people that I nick as part of my duty. The dogs even have air-con in the kennels.
Our switchboards have been inundated with calls of shocked/appalled members of the public and those offering sympathy to those involved. There has even been a memorial set-up for the dogs where officers and members of the public can pay their respects.
If anyone wants further info, contact our force headquarters.
There is a huge amount of shock reverberating througout the force as many of us feel that we've lost two colleagues rather than just two dogs.
I'm not going to go in to the circumstances of these tragic deaths, but should anyone be worried what condidtions the dogs live in, I can tell you it's probably better than most of the people that I nick as part of my duty. The dogs even have air-con in the kennels.
Our switchboards have been inundated with calls of shocked/appalled members of the public and those offering sympathy to those involved. There has even been a memorial set-up for the dogs where officers and members of the public can pay their respects.
If anyone wants further info, contact our force headquarters.
The handler in charge must be feeling really bad , hope he grows though his mistake .
03 July 2009, 08:37 PM
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Why is ZERO being said about how/why this happened? Everyone is drawing the conclusion that the guy concerned was apathetic and sadistic, and was indeed probably munching doughnuts during an extended lunchbreak. That sort of assumption needs managing (if possible) but its all schtum...
It's beyond comprehension that a trained police dog handler could do this, and to TWO dogs - so what the hell caused this to happen!???
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It's beyond comprehension that a trained police dog handler could do this, and to TWO dogs - so what the hell caused this to happen!???
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From what i have read/heard on news reports(the only source of info available at the mo as those who know what happened are not saying anything for whatever reason they see fit
)the dogs were in a private car owned by the dog handler who popped into the station off duty.They were then left in the car to die before the handler got back to them.
Most pro dog handlers/workers(police or civilian) i have met would never do this but there are a few bad apples that consider a working dog just a tool of the trade and treat it as such. please note i am not inferring this to be the case in this instance just trying to explore any reasoning that may explain what happened untill someone stands up and says these are the facts(should take about 20 mins of looking over cctv footage of the carpark if there is any).
cheers Richie
03 July 2009, 08:41 PM
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It's hardly crime of the century.
Half wit policeman leaves two (very expensive) dogs to die in his car.
Case closed.
No doubt we'll hear how he was just seeing how long his dogs could go with no air - just a training exercise that went tragically wrong
Half wit policeman leaves two (very expensive) dogs to die in his car.
Case closed.
No doubt we'll hear how he was just seeing how long his dogs could go with no air - just a training exercise that went tragically wrong
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It has to be said ,guys n gals,that the media is giving this more coverage than they do to our lads in Afganistan and Iraq,who are dying in the same or even worse conditions!
S**t happens!
S**t happens!
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someone on here with values
03 July 2009, 09:06 PM
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yep it says it all , 2 notts dogs have been killed (big error), but no thread about a real hero says it all UK Soldiers Die In Afghanistan: Lt Col Rupert Thorneloe And Trooper Joshua Hammond Killed | UK News | Sky News
03 July 2009, 09:10 PM
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but they have a choice whether to join up or not-the dogs had no such choice hence the reaction by the public and press cheers richie
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Before you start spouting bóllocks about values with another username, the issue isn't about what people deem more important between a dog or human life. What is the issue here is not even necessarily to do with the Police except a trained dog handler should know better.
The real issue here is that somebody, anybody, could be so dim to put 2 dogs, that have to rely on humans to do what is best for them in general situations, in a position so easily avoided resulting in their tragic death. The very same highly trained dogs that on a single command would die keeping their handler safe.
The real issue here is that somebody, anybody, could be so dim to put 2 dogs, that have to rely on humans to do what is best for them in general situations, in a position so easily avoided resulting in their tragic death. The very same highly trained dogs that on a single command would die keeping their handler safe.
03 July 2009, 09:23 PM
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I hope the people die in a prescribed drug for depression induced pile of vomit..
There dying thought being sorry for causing death to animals that was a lot braver and more disciplined than themselves..
It doesnt suprise me that some self absorbed dibble couldnt see the bigger picture,and think beyond where there next bonus was coming from.
There dying thought being sorry for causing death to animals that was a lot braver and more disciplined than themselves..
It doesnt suprise me that some self absorbed dibble couldnt see the bigger picture,and think beyond where there next bonus was coming from.
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03 July 2009, 10:00 PM
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03 July 2009, 10:05 PM
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Hasn't this all been taken a bit too far.
As far as we know the guy didn't deliberately kill his dogs. He made an error by leaving them in a vehicle on a warm day. He made a bad decision, and we dont know the full circumstances around what happened.
My view is that police officers, just like individuals in every other line of business make mistakes. In my view this guy probably thought no harm would come to his dogs while his car was unattended, it is possibly something he has done regularly in the past with no issues. It seems on this occasion he was wrong. Should he loose his job, I would say no. Is he fit to remain in a dog handler's role, I would suggest not.
As far as we know the guy didn't deliberately kill his dogs. He made an error by leaving them in a vehicle on a warm day. He made a bad decision, and we dont know the full circumstances around what happened.
My view is that police officers, just like individuals in every other line of business make mistakes. In my view this guy probably thought no harm would come to his dogs while his car was unattended, it is possibly something he has done regularly in the past with no issues. It seems on this occasion he was wrong. Should he loose his job, I would say no. Is he fit to remain in a dog handler's role, I would suggest not.
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Hasn't this all been taken a bit too far.
As far as we know the guy didn't deliberately kill his dogs. He made an error by leaving them in a vehicle on a warm day. He made a bad decision, and we dont know the full circumstances around what happened.
My view is that police officers, just like individuals in every other line of business make mistakes. In my view this guy probably thought no harm would come to his dogs while his car was unattended, it is possibly something he has done regularly in the past with no issues. It seems on this occasion he was wrong. Should he loose his job, I would say no. Is he fit to remain in a dog handler's role, I would suggest not.
As far as we know the guy didn't deliberately kill his dogs. He made an error by leaving them in a vehicle on a warm day. He made a bad decision, and we dont know the full circumstances around what happened.
My view is that police officers, just like individuals in every other line of business make mistakes. In my view this guy probably thought no harm would come to his dogs while his car was unattended, it is possibly something he has done regularly in the past with no issues. It seems on this occasion he was wrong. Should he loose his job, I would say no. Is he fit to remain in a dog handler's role, I would suggest not.
03 July 2009, 10:44 PM
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Jesus forgot about that place-mucho respect as depending on what years you were in NI a few serving mates have told me how ****e it was-some truly horrific stories about what was actually going on compared to the press reporting of the time
Mind you I'm in my 40's so are my mates so we/they can remember some of the worst of it . Thank god(unintended irony) its calming down now compared to the past and the majority of the boys are out of there.
cheers Richie
Mind you I'm in my 40's so are my mates so we/they can remember some of the worst of it . Thank god(unintended irony) its calming down now compared to the past and the majority of the boys are out of there.
cheers Richie
03 July 2009, 10:58 PM
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I was filling up at a Tesco supermarket garage last Saturday night. It must have been about 23:30 and very quiet.
That was until a red Ford Focus came screaming into the garage, driving right through the pumps at wreckless speed, and slamming the brakes on where you can inflate your tyres.
I then clocked the plate - beginning with "SF" - it was an unmarked police car. The two fat ****** got out for a stretch and the youngest one(early 20s and already sporting a hefty beer gut) shouted to his pal "ye want a juice?", then swaggered into the shop for some snacks.
Now I garantee that if I had driven like that I would have been charged on the spot for either careless or dangerous driving.
What more can I say?
That was until a red Ford Focus came screaming into the garage, driving right through the pumps at wreckless speed, and slamming the brakes on where you can inflate your tyres.
I then clocked the plate - beginning with "SF" - it was an unmarked police car. The two fat ****** got out for a stretch and the youngest one(early 20s and already sporting a hefty beer gut) shouted to his pal "ye want a juice?", then swaggered into the shop for some snacks.
Now I garantee that if I had driven like that I would have been charged on the spot for either careless or dangerous driving.
What more can I say?
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