catflap

Remember your desicion is not cast in stone, i plan on changin in 3 years anyway

And a uk scoob, is pretty fun as it is at the end of the day thats what its all about, the fun factor. youll love a uk scoob, hay youll love a wrx, you could have them both, one after the other or move on to somehting else (like i intend)

tweenierob

what to do
what to do
i think i can deal with the miles for that price!!!
but will i need the extra power?? decisions decisions

catflap

wouldent a 93wrx pump out round 230ish (on our fuel)

same as my uk99? (235bhp)

Figure the gears make ia little quicker though

I think they are all pretty good cars , but after being in an evo, well what can i say, im saving already. Not even in the same ball game (IMHO)

scoob all i can afford rightnow, scoob will do me just fine rightnow

would be good to see a comparison between a early wrx and a newer uk scoob FANCY A DRAG RACE like on fast and furious LOL only kiddin(ill fit a soda streem for the noss)

tweenierob

lmao.......
maybe you could fit double soda stream gas bottles for that extra kick, wonder if you could make your exhaust gas smell of lemonade??? my first mod... soda stream set up.... oxegen/irn bru injection??? lol

catflap

DONT BE SOO FOOLISH

Iron Bru.......... everone knows iron bru is a probable cause of maf failers
heheheh

TUT

tweenierob

loks like this thread is coming to an end now, just like to thank everyone for their inputs and ideas, unless i can get a "bargain" uk model i have made my mind up, wrx wrx wrx wrx.........
thanks people....

Katana

My MY93 revs at around 3000 RPM'ish at 70 mph in 5th. Either I've fitted my lockwood dials (I've already destroyed 2 fuel gauges) or I'm missing something here. This is just like my old 200sx.

catflap

70 at 3000rpm, sounds about the same as my uk99

Katana

Oops, forgot to mention that mine is a WRX.

chrisp

Mines a Type RA so it has the same box as the Type R which are the shortest of the short I think.

tweenierob

katana where the dials hard to fit???

Tractor

If you want to see the effect of short gearing on cars of the same power, compare an Sti 3,4,5, or 6 Type R, to the quivalent 4 door model. They will have the same power, but the TYpe Rs accelerate markedly faster because of their short gearing, and will still make 150mph. I am not sure how much shorter WRX gearing is to UK, but it would have some effect at least.

WRXs became 280bhp with the MY97. Contemporary Stis are quoted at the same power (although they do have more) and more torque. A late model WRX, 97 onward is basically a 280Bhp UK car, with slightly stiffer springs, a bit shorter gearing and some more toys. They look the same so WRXs would make great Q cars. My Sti is somewhat less subtle, which I occasionally lament. 280BHP WRXs are great cars, and probably more suited to the UK than Stis in some ways.

Mike

tweenierob

just seen a sti wrx for sale near me k reg 70k £6250, gonna investigate, Rob

catflap

It seems that shortening the gears is an excelent way of increasing peformance, yo uget faster acceleration withought any extra stress on the engin.... is this right?


If so ho difficult would it be to shorten some of the gears in a uk car? would it require a new box, or could somone open hre up and change a part or 2?


I seldom drive at 150 mph, and would gladly sacrifise some top end for more acceleration.

TRIGGER

The point here is that the RAs and Rs have the shorter boxes to make use of the power - to keep it on the boil you dont want the rvs to dip too low and so lose the turbo. The Sti's have 1000rpm extra upto the rev limiter (8350rpm) so the short gearing helps the acceleration and extra revs limit the impact.

scoobynutta555

I used to have a 93 wrx and it had 245 bhp rolling roaded. It had a scorpion exhaust, air filter and d/valve, and unusually it had ABS. The wrx came with 3 different standard bhp figures, which were:
240
260
280
Only problem i found were that the brakes were crap as were any pre 97 car jap or uk spec. (changed to a 4 pot willwood 325 vented disc from Hi-spec in Dartford) and the syncro went on second gear, resulting in a rip off bill and poor service from GGR in Leicester.(£900 and 2 weeks later, and they TRACK tested it after me telling them specifically what the problem was)

If you going to get anything mechanical done and you live local go to RGS motorsport in Wellingborough. Top lads and keen prices.

chrisp

Catflap, I think the type R and RA boxes are uprated as well as teh clutch but you may be able to get the gear ratios changed. Dont thing its going to be cheap though. Labour to drop the gearbox out, split the box, change the ratios, put it back together and refit. There may also be issues with the diffs, I am not a gearbox expert but it sounds expensive and then you have to explain it to an insurance company .

DaveD

iTrader: (2)

I have a MY93 WRX, and have no complaints.

Gearing is quite short (4th runs out at 100mph), but this is ideal for acceleration through the gears. The car does suffer from turbo lag, but pulls all the way from 4k to the red line - I understand that the UK models can run out of puff over 5.5k rpm.

Thus the engine and gearbox are ideally matched, and you can keep in the power band all the way to the red line in top!!

I haven't had any problems servicing - even got a Subaru garage to change the cam belt recently. Most garages will service an import by the back door, avoiding any managers! Having said that, I've done all the oil changes and brakes etc, myself - the car is relatively easy to work on, especially when you have a resource like Scoobynet to help you!

Jap models don't have undersealing as we know it, but the rear arches do have chip-resistant paint (except for RA models?) and if regularly cleaned should not be a cause for concern. Jap cars have an ally bonet, so no worries about stone chips going rusty here!!

Add to that climate control and a/c in most cars, and you give yourself plenty of reasons to choose a WRX.

The only downsides that I know of owning a WRX are the poorer fuel economy (which shouldn't worry you if owning an Impreza is what you want!) and the higher insurance rating.

My next car will another grey import WRX

tweenierob

i'm hoping to sort out a deal with someone from scoobynet my96 wrx, can't mention names in case of someone else beating me to it but definately gonna choose the grey way.....
k reg sti wrx near me 6250 ............

chrisp

Gearing on my type RA is just over 19mph per 1000 rpm in 5th. Having owned both a UK and import I would say 4th gear in the UK is about the same ratio as 5th in the RA. I find the biggest difference is the is no let up in power between gear changes. My Uk use to take a split second to come back on power on fast gear changes.

With the short gearing it reving higher at motorway speeds, obviously. In the case of the WRX the redline is 7,500 and 8250 (??) for the STI

0-100 in a UK you are looking at 14.5 and about 12.5 in a 280PS Import

[Edited by chrisp - 3/7/2002 9:23:07 AM]

Myk

Having owned a WRX for about 6 months i am a little biased! But i have never actually been in a UK Spec Scoob!

Being an early (MY93) model it redlines at 7k rpm presumably the same as the UK cars?? It never seems out of breath, well until about 6.5k rpm in 5th! (Obviously conducted in Germany

With my budget it was the quickest car i could afford (approx £7500) It looks great, handles like a dream and not a lot can catch me!! Oh and it has a great following!

The debate goes on.....

[Edited by Myk - 3/7/2002 3:37:45 PM]

Katana

Hard to fit? Lets just say I've been through 2 fuel gauges already and the last one was also broken at the needle. I'm running my car without a working fuel gauge for now.

I'm waiting till next Wednesday before I get my new fuel gauge. Its not that difficult to fit if you take your time. Just be careful not to break the temperature and fuel gauge needle and you'll do just fine.

[Edited by Katana - 3/8/2002 5:39:02 PM]