550 bhp on a sti newage
30 June 2009, 06:32 PM
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A mildly tweaked 2.5 will make 400 ft.lb. and make a very nice road car....
I was out "playing" in a 2.5 Type-R last week and it was lovely, 300/360 but felt quicker than my bug with 395/360.... as it oversteered on demand.
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I was out "playing" in a 2.5 Type-R last week and it was lovely, 300/360 but felt quicker than my bug with 395/360.... as it oversteered on demand.
HTH
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30 June 2009, 07:06 PM
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dunx i would go for the 2.5 but all you here of is them blowing up the engine will be either a 2.1 stroker or just run the 2.0 litre with some forged pistons and rods with uprated clutch and a md321t in place of the h just incase of future mods etc.
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01 July 2009, 01:11 AM
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As I have said to get a 10second car in a newage sti you need 600bhp and say £20k and that would be sourcing 2nd hand stuff and probs a very long time off the road! 500bhp could be done for a lot less and still be in standard turbo fitmnet. with 400bhp in a newage sti I would seriously think its a high 12 second 1/4 mile car so miles and miles from where you want to be. Also of your friend has a 400bhp car I take it yours is standard ??? Keep well away from the higher bhp figure as its not a toy 
01 July 2009, 07:39 AM
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For bolt on turbo users :
The 2.1 reponds very well on the road, obviously not as well as a 2.5, but so much better than the extra 100cc would suggest. On a like for like turbo basis though the 2.1 just pulls so much cleaner at the top end, and lets face it guys, if you wanna go drag racing what use is 600lbft at 3500rpm when you only drive through it once. This is what is helping my road car pull 11.1 1/4 miles @ 127+mph in full trim with a stock Sti5 gearbox and only 450hp.
Here are a couple of recent results for our 2.1 strokers, my own road car and K18LLR's with a measly 18g on 10% meth.
For rotated turbo users:
Use the biggest engine you can, lol. The larger rotated turbos flow so much better that you can use the larger engine to keep as much road useable torque as possible, but still have a car with good power at 7000rpm and beyond.
01 July 2009, 08:54 AM
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By all means post K18LLR's graph to show a 2.1lt result, and whilst I know you did the engine build for K18LLAR, please don't claim it's one of your stroker engines, when it's using Lateral custom internals
And yes, the 2.1lt is a very underrated engine. We have several already running in the 10's, and with a little help, I think Morbs could see a high 9 second run........
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01 July 2009, 10:43 AM
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i think with all this being explaned it will help the people on here like myself to understand were to go and what sort of build they need for what they want as most of the people on here read about engine builds and run a mile after they here money and time also the fact all the question,s on were to start so thanx guys for all the input on my thread
01 July 2009, 11:24 AM
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Martyn,
By all means post K18LLR's graph to show a 2.1lt result, and whilst I know you did the engine A for K18LLAR, please don't claim it's one of your stroker engines, when it's using Lateral custom internals
And yes, the 2.1lt is a very underrated engine. We have several already A in the 10's, and with a little help, I think Morbs could see a high 9 second run........
Mark.
By all means post K18LLR's graph to show a 2.1lt result, and whilst I know you did the engine A for K18LLAR, please don't claim it's one of your stroker engines, when it's using Lateral custom internals
And yes, the 2.1lt is a very underrated engine. We have several already A in the 10's, and with a little help, I think Morbs could see a high 9 second run........
Mark.
Apologies Mark, lol.
Yes it has Lateral SUPPLIED Wiseco pistons and Crower rods, but all of the machining work, building and tuning was carried out by Enginetuner LTD.
I think that we can take some of the responsibility for the figures produced and I am sure the customer will agree
.And if you wish to put the graph on your site to highlight your components, feel free, lol.
P.S. Not a Lateral supplied component in sight on any of our other 2.1 strokers including my own
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01 July 2009, 11:57 AM
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As mentioned all internals were supplied by Mark at Lateral - they are doing very well in my setup , however the full build inluding machining, mapping etc was done by EngineTuner so a joint contribution from both top Tuners within the Subaru world
01 July 2009, 12:31 PM
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CDB blocks will require machining for the rear thrust which we carry out for £143.75 inc vat.
More details can be found here. https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...ker-build.html
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They have done a excellent job on mine, the quality of the machine work/ honing etc is spot on, it hasn't lost a single drop of oil even though I have given it some serious abuse since I collected it, its very quiet on cold startup no slap, etc, I've seen many bodged builds over the past few years and this as well as many other cars built by them are simply flawless
05 July 2009, 03:36 PM
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Make sure you go for the optional closed deck block option for future peace of mind, I can now literally bolt on a turbo of almost any size and know the engine will cope without any issues (providing my fuelling and drivetrain is up to it lol) the 18g is doing well for now and makes a cracking road car and is the perfect setup for someone on a budget
05 July 2009, 07:10 PM
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not at all the rev limiter is set at 8250rpm not too sure why it only shows up to 7k on the graph??
12 July 2009, 10:45 AM
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It produces it's power nice and low due to the small turbo, stroker combination.
