500 BHP PROJECT NOW IN PROGRESS
12 June 2009, 07:20 AM
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I completely agree with you both, 500 on the road is a bit lively, although if you travel everywhere at the speed limit it's no faster than a Mondeo, lol.
12 June 2009, 07:57 AM
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jabbawockymark,
I certainly hope you are in the club next year, but sorry for sounding off but do you realise how much this will cost? As you have already jumped from 500bhp to 600bhp in a matter of 24hrs. Have you actually driven a REAL 500bhp Scoob, let alone a 600bhp? It's easy to say you want 600bhp.... but actually achieving it is entirely different.
I certainly hope you are in the club next year, but sorry for sounding off but do you realise how much this will cost? As you have already jumped from 500bhp to 600bhp in a matter of 24hrs. Have you actually driven a REAL 500bhp Scoob, let alone a 600bhp? It's easy to say you want 600bhp.... but actually achieving it is entirely different.
12 June 2009, 08:13 AM
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Ha haaa, that Bob the builder gets every where......... 
A 500bhp Skyline is more like a 400bhp Subaru, and expect to pay £15-20k for a true 600bhp Subaru.
A 500bhp Skyline is more like a 400bhp Subaru, and expect to pay £15-20k for a true 600bhp Subaru.
12 June 2009, 03:12 PM
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Jabba : Shaun. SteveBT & Dynamics are all giving you sound advise there mate.
That is why I pm'd you asking if you have ever been in a "genuine" 500+Bhp Impreza.
My P1 is currently running a minimum of 500 and when driven hard on the roads I'll be honest by saying that 500+ in a classic can be scary in the country lanes.
What people overlook is that we all have four wheel drive. 500Bhp in other cars normally spend half the day lighting up there rears by which time we are in the next town.
I assume you are ok for £'s otherwise you would not be considering 500+ but be prepared to spend lots !.
To give you an idea of what it's cost me so far I could have bought 16,363 gallons of V-Power at it's current value
or have broadband for the next 817 years
That is why I pm'd you asking if you have ever been in a "genuine" 500+Bhp Impreza.
My P1 is currently running a minimum of 500 and when driven hard on the roads I'll be honest by saying that 500+ in a classic can be scary in the country lanes.
What people overlook is that we all have four wheel drive. 500Bhp in other cars normally spend half the day lighting up there rears by which time we are in the next town.
I assume you are ok for £'s otherwise you would not be considering 500+ but be prepared to spend lots !.
To give you an idea of what it's cost me so far I could have bought 16,363 gallons of V-Power at it's current value
or have broadband for the next 817 years
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12 June 2009, 04:37 PM
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Hi guys i do accept the advice as a good thing and i thank everyone for there comments and for the advice and will respect every one who drives a car in the mid 450 bhp to 500 bhp i have been in a scoob running 460 bhp and that was awsome power when i had a drive the power in your hands is the wow factor so yer i will love more feed back from you guys.....
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Jabba : Shaun. SteveBT & Dynamics are all giving you sound advise there mate.
That is why I pm'd you asking if you have ever been in a "genuine" 500+Bhp Impreza.
My P1 is currently running a minimum of 500 and when driven hard on the roads I'll be honest by saying that 500+ in a classic can be scary in the country lanes.
What people overlook is that we all have four wheel drive. 500Bhp in other cars normally spend half the day lighting up there rears by which time we are in the next town.
I assume you are ok for £'s otherwise you would not be considering 500+ but be prepared to spend lots !.
To give you an idea of what it's cost me so far I could have bought 16,363 gallons of V-Power at it's current value
or have broadband for the next 817 years
That is why I pm'd you asking if you have ever been in a "genuine" 500+Bhp Impreza.
My P1 is currently running a minimum of 500 and when driven hard on the roads I'll be honest by saying that 500+ in a classic can be scary in the country lanes.
What people overlook is that we all have four wheel drive. 500Bhp in other cars normally spend half the day lighting up there rears by which time we are in the next town.
I assume you are ok for £'s otherwise you would not be considering 500+ but be prepared to spend lots !.
To give you an idea of what it's cost me so far I could have bought 16,363 gallons of V-Power at it's current value
or have broadband for the next 817 years
i also am thankful that they are willing to take the time to read this thread and take the time to give me this advice so thanks once again....
12 June 2009, 08:08 PM
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Mark, drop me a PM, I'm in Chelmsford too...I'll take you out in my wagon when it's on the road, it's only going to be running an 18g for a while but with a built 2.35 it's going to spool up very quickly and should feel very fast on the road...all at under 400. It may make you rethink your goal 
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12 June 2009, 08:39 PM
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I have to admit I don't see what all the big deal is about 500 being too much for a road car I'm looking forward to breaking 600bhp and hope its as quick as I'm expecting but we will see
What I did notice was that at 500bhp I could drive the car hard on normal roads and still hold the wheel with 1 hand, when it made 550bhp I had to hold the wheel with both hands on the road or it will ave you
I'm looking forward to breaking 600bhp and hope its as quick as I'm expecting but we will see What I did notice was that at 500bhp I could drive the car hard on normal roads and still hold the wheel with 1 hand, when it made 550bhp I had to hold the wheel with both hands on the road or it will ave you
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13 June 2009, 11:31 AM
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Steve,
Of course, you can drive anything on the road..... but you can not exploit 500bhp on the road in a Scoob. That is the difference. So, if you only intend in using the car as a road car what is the point in having all that extra power that you will never use..... unless you are a straight line merchant.
Everything happens way to quickly and certainly with my engine, way too violently.
That is what I am alluding to and I suspect others are.
Yes... I can hold the wheel with one hand, but not when I am gunning it.... that would be silly even though it is possible.
Most people can not drive a 350bhp to it's potential on the road, so why (in those circumstances) go for 250bhp more.
Of course, you can drive anything on the road..... but you can not exploit 500bhp on the road in a Scoob. That is the difference. So, if you only intend in using the car as a road car what is the point in having all that extra power that you will never use..... unless you are a straight line merchant.
Everything happens way to quickly and certainly with my engine, way too violently.That is what I am alluding to and I suspect others are.
Yes... I can hold the wheel with one hand, but not when I am gunning it.... that would be silly even though it is possible.
Most people can not drive a 350bhp to it's potential on the road, so why (in those circumstances) go for 250bhp more.
13 June 2009, 12:05 PM
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Shaun: I guess it's the same as the man who drinks 14 pints when 6 will do the job We know it's too much for the road yet we still gotta "av it"
Jabba: sorry fella, I never realised you have previously owned a Skyline running 480, although Lateral had a good point in that a Skyline with 500 would be the same as an Impreza with 400.
My friend and I gave an Audi RS6 (V10 twin turbo 581Bhp) a serious hammering and it was WAY slower than my P1 running at 400.
You have happy days ahead
We know it's too much for the road yet we still gotta "av it" Jabba: sorry fella, I never realised you have previously owned a Skyline running 480, although Lateral had a good point in that a Skyline with 500 would be the same as an Impreza with 400.
My friend and I gave an Audi RS6 (V10 twin turbo 581Bhp) a serious hammering and it was WAY slower than my P1 running at 400.
You have happy days ahead
13 June 2009, 09:40 PM
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Shaun: I guess it's the same as the man who drinks 14 pints when 6 will do the job We know it's too much for the road yet we still gotta "av it"
Jabba: sorry fella, I never realised you have previously owned a Skyline running 480, although Lateral had a good point in that a Skyline with 500 would be the same as an Impreza with 400.
My friend and I gave an Audi RS6 (V10 twin turbo 581Bhp) a serious hammering and it was WAY slower than my P1 running at 400.
You have happy days ahead
We know it's too much for the road yet we still gotta "av it" Jabba: sorry fella, I never realised you have previously owned a Skyline running 480, although Lateral had a good point in that a Skyline with 500 would be the same as an Impreza with 400.
My friend and I gave an Audi RS6 (V10 twin turbo 581Bhp) a serious hammering and it was WAY slower than my P1 running at 400.
You have happy days ahead
14 June 2009, 12:52 AM
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I always find the comments about 450-500 being hard to extract on the roads... yeah partially true but you can have a lot of funning trying..... in the dry at least.....
I think I would be bored in a Scoob with less than 450bhp on the road and on Track anything less than 500bhp and you feel like you dont have enough power.... but maybe thats the bloody gaskets going again (if its not the headgasket, its the up-pipe or Manifold/Cylinder Gaskets)
Would love to try over 500bhp myself but dont want to start on another project Scoob when its so much easier to get 500-550bhp out of an Evo which much less Cash Outlay and time!! - time is pretty much key to many, many wasted years....
Then again my Classic weighs 1250kg's and the newer cars are all over 1400kg's so I'd want more power just to compensate for the weight gain!
I think I would be bored in a Scoob with less than 450bhp on the road and on Track anything less than 500bhp and you feel like you dont have enough power.... but maybe thats the bloody gaskets going again (if its not the headgasket, its the up-pipe or Manifold/Cylinder Gaskets)
Would love to try over 500bhp myself but dont want to start on another project Scoob when its so much easier to get 500-550bhp out of an Evo which much less Cash Outlay and time!! - time is pretty much key to many, many wasted years....
Then again my Classic weighs 1250kg's and the newer cars are all over 1400kg's so I'd want more power just to compensate for the weight gain!
14 June 2009, 01:14 AM
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WELL there some good points there fangoria
ive had scoobs at 300 350 bhp and always want more from them this is y iam building this engine i wont 500 bhp and iam going to love the boost cos iam a boost baby lol
ive had scoobs at 300 350 bhp and always want more from them this is y iam building this engine i wont 500 bhp and iam going to love the boost cos iam a boost baby lol
14 June 2009, 01:43 AM
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these threads always make laugh
IMHO opinion 450/450 is more than enough for the road
my typeR is 420/420
and has nearly caught me out a few times on the road
but i do all my own work on my car
after watching scooby sprint out, it proved a 600bhp was no where near as fast as a 450bhp/500lbft car
14 June 2009, 11:10 AM
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well yes i agree i wont disagree that 500bhp is alot on the road but you can drive a car slow even if it does have awsome power under the hood i mean lets be honest how many of you boys are running 450 or even 400 bhp with good tourque and do give it a foot full every where you go
and then they say 500 is to much COME ON
and then they say 500 is to much COME ON
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It one of those things it has to be felt to be believed. Sure 500 will be ott for my needs but if i am going to all that expense then 500 seems a nice target. Just needs to be used with care and extreme caution on the road.
Going to call olly next week and book my car in for a new 2.5 lump get it done early next year
Going to call olly next week and book my car in for a new 2.5 lump get it done early next year
14 June 2009, 04:02 PM
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yer me too i always give it beans just cant help it lol
i also find that every one wonts a race on the road aswell soon as they here that scooby rumble they turn in to nutters ..
i also find that every one wonts a race on the road aswell soon as they here that scooby rumble they turn in to nutters ..
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"Would love to try over 500bhp myself but dont want to start on another project Scoob when its so much easier to get 500-550bhp out of an Evo which much less Cash Outlay and time!! - time is pretty much key to many, many wasted years...."
Fangoria:
I have driven 8,9 & 10 Evo's ranging from 330 to 440Bhp and you are correct that an Evo costs much less to reach 500, but it will not feel the same mate.
I believe Evo's do handle better than a standard Impreza and they are great cars, but the difference I find is that the Evo power is delivered a lot smoother.
Even bearing that in mind I took out one of my friends last week in my P1 (he owns an Evo 10 running 380Bhp) and I'll be honest, when I floored it in 2nd he **** himself and was totally shocked at the performance.
Believe me mate, a genuine 500+ in a Classic is quick !!
The P1 is my 39th car and many have been "petrolhead" motors and nothing comes close.
The good thing is he is telling all his Evo mates
Fangoria:
I have driven 8,9 & 10 Evo's ranging from 330 to 440Bhp and you are correct that an Evo costs much less to reach 500, but it will not feel the same mate.
I believe Evo's do handle better than a standard Impreza and they are great cars, but the difference I find is that the Evo power is delivered a lot smoother.
Even bearing that in mind I took out one of my friends last week in my P1 (he owns an Evo 10 running 380Bhp) and I'll be honest, when I floored it in 2nd he **** himself and was totally shocked at the performance.
Believe me mate, a genuine 500+ in a Classic is quick !!
The P1 is my 39th car and many have been "petrolhead" motors and nothing comes close.
The good thing is he is telling all his Evo mates
14 June 2009, 09:37 PM
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Dont think the wife would let me buy what she calls, a sooped up Rover............. but I have thought a lot about an Evo 8, dont really want newer as the newer the Model the heavier the car gets... I've driven in a 400bhp one and it felt ok, but its like when I had a TD05 20G running with a drop of race fuel, feels quick but as soon as you take it on track you realise that it really isnt that quick at all at the top end...... I've had over 170mph down the straight at Castle Coombe before Quarry though, but only after I fitted a bigger Turbo than that small one
At Snetterton I've seen a so-called powerful black Evo with about 600-650bhp, the Turbo sure was big.. and it wasnt a 2 litre, then again he needed to have some lessons as his driving style and lines were terrible, so its not just about power and Don Palmer showed me just how fast my car could go the other week at a Track day.....
Mine ticks along nicely in the 450-500bhp category....... but I'd like an extra 100bhp at least for Track - dont need anymore for the Road and I'll never do a quarter mile in my life as I find the event days way, way too boring and it kills the mechanicals
At Snetterton I've seen a so-called powerful black Evo with about 600-650bhp, the Turbo sure was big.. and it wasnt a 2 litre, then again he needed to have some lessons as his driving style and lines were terrible, so its not just about power and Don Palmer showed me just how fast my car could go the other week at a Track day.....
Mine ticks along nicely in the 450-500bhp category....... but I'd like an extra 100bhp at least for Track - dont need anymore for the Road and I'll never do a quarter mile in my life as I find the event days way, way too boring and it kills the mechanicals
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"Would love to try over 500bhp myself but dont want to start on another project Scoob when its so much easier to get 500-550bhp out of an Evo which much less Cash Outlay and time!! - time is pretty much key to many, many wasted years...."
Fangoria:
I have driven 8,9 & 10 Evo's ranging from 330 to 440Bhp and you are correct that an Evo costs much less to reach 500, but it will not feel the same mate.
I believe Evo's do handle better than a standard Impreza and they are great cars, but the difference I find is that the Evo power is delivered a lot smoother.
Even bearing that in mind I took out one of my friends last week in my P1 (he owns an Evo 10 running 380Bhp) and I'll be honest, when I floored it in 2nd he **** himself and was totally shocked at the performance.
Believe me mate, a genuine 500+ in a Classic is quick !!
The P1 is my 39th car and many have been "petrolhead" motors and nothing comes close.
The good thing is he is telling all his Evo mates
Fangoria:
I have driven 8,9 & 10 Evo's ranging from 330 to 440Bhp and you are correct that an Evo costs much less to reach 500, but it will not feel the same mate.
I believe Evo's do handle better than a standard Impreza and they are great cars, but the difference I find is that the Evo power is delivered a lot smoother.
Even bearing that in mind I took out one of my friends last week in my P1 (he owns an Evo 10 running 380Bhp) and I'll be honest, when I floored it in 2nd he **** himself and was totally shocked at the performance.
Believe me mate, a genuine 500+ in a Classic is quick !!
The P1 is my 39th car and many have been "petrolhead" motors and nothing comes close.
The good thing is he is telling all his Evo mates
