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Old 08 September 2009, 06:33 PM
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i find it incredible how much power you can get with the right parts on standard internals, you use this as a daily driver that is impressive, where are you on the ta points table, i know tractive are helping a lot of cars but if you running well in ta cant you get a deal with them if they coat your car in livery?, as your obviously one of the quicker drivers.
my car is now sorn permenantly im on the hunt for a new car now, scoob will be far to extreme
im lucky enough to have got in with scoobyclinic otherwise i wouldnt be able to afford it all. im having a 2.4 forged race engine(all scoobyclinic custom or cosworth) with a hybrid gt35r rotated setup,solaris ecu, fuelab pumps, filters and regs and twin fuel rails (8per side for better idle and low revs) sti pinks backed up with 800cc maybe 1000cc injectors have to wait and see, side exit pipe, some serious suspension mods all roll ars bushes drop links lat links trailing arms lower arms with some very very impressive new hotbits not the ones from earlier in thread these are newer again, hopefully we will get the weight down to 1200kgs or less so much cutting and stripping has been done now its practically gone back to bare shell and rebuilt scoobyclinic expect in excess of 550 wih massive torque,
i just cant wait i just want to hear it fire up, but ill be waiting a little while for that
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Chevron Motorsport TMIC, good Turbo, Chevron headers, Exhaust, high pressure oil pump, Chevron baffled sump, Hydra ECU, 650 injectors, filter, Chevron Rad with integrated oil cooler.

Been running the engine for 15k miles (replaced the last to be safe in Jan due to high miles). All of TA, 10 track days and running to work and back each day.

It breaths some oil but need to get a breather kit to sort that. We haven't had any issues with the engine at all really, oil change each round etc as you would do.

Power coming from the TMIC being so efficient and being able to map so much advance in with no det. Richard Bulmer (Tracktive) does the mapping for us. He is continually surprised at what he can get from the top mount (even more than he gets from fronts). We have got to the point where we are running so much advance on the ignition at 1.7bar that it loses power (but still no det). Need a sponsor to fund engine work to see just what we can get out of the setup, and run club pro.

I hope I have remembered all that correctly, I am SO not technical.
Old 08 September 2009, 06:35 PM
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my car not eligable y?
Originally Posted by shawy1976
i,d wait for the new rules as your (my) car may not be eligible for club challenge i hope they are but you never know .
Old 08 September 2009, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by utaka
my car not eligable y?
Rules change .. as in any form of motorsport.
Old 08 September 2009, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by utaka
i find it incredible how much power you can get with the right parts on standard internals, you use this as a daily driver that is impressive, where are you on the ta points table, i know tractive are helping a lot of cars but if you running well in ta cant you get a deal with them if they coat your car in livery?, as your obviously one of the quicker drivers.
Although Tracktive are helping. Mapping, and they sourced a gearbox and base engine for us. Chevron Motorsport in Stafford are the ones that have made and run the car this year. They are somewhat unknown in general circles as they do all types of motorsport (4x4, track, sprint, etc). They are all rounders, but the work they have done on the suspension and brakes is amazing, + their bespoke items that they have developed just for my car (now for general sale).

Have to reiterate it's the Chevron Motorsport Stafford Impreza, it's just that Tracktive and Chevron have a great relationship and Tracktive are the better known.

They will both support me next year but free labour and cost parts isn't enough. Need cash to develop and run the car which I just don't have.

I am 3rd in Club championship at the mo. 2nd fastest Subaru at most rounds I think. Always just behind Duncan
Old 08 September 2009, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I will be driving for points there rather than the outright win. 4th and 5th will do me fine if Russ wins.
Orr thats going to make it boring now
Old 08 September 2009, 09:01 PM
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Thought you were in Club Pro Andy?
Old 08 September 2009, 09:30 PM
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so what class would the car go in im confused i thought if you were not a pro driver you have to start in club challenge as like you said some newcomers may have loads of power and cant drive so surely you could not for example put me in club pro for my first ever experience of time attack surely. y would my car not be eligable does that mean i cant enter
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Rules change .. as in any form of motorsport.
Old 08 September 2009, 09:33 PM
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you will have to overcome your lack of speed with insane bravery
if duncans not pushing for the win leaves the door open for someone new on the top, id make the most of it now i know your running standard internals ill be egginig u on
Originally Posted by JB1
Although Tracktive are helping. Mapping, and they sourced a gearbox and base engine for us. Chevron Motorsport in Stafford are the ones that have made and run the car this year. They are somewhat unknown in general circles as they do all types of motorsport (4x4, track, sprint, etc). They are all rounders, but the work they have done on the suspension and brakes is amazing, + their bespoke items that they have developed just for my car (now for general sale).

Have to reiterate it's the Chevron Motorsport Stafford Impreza, it's just that Tracktive and Chevron have a great relationship and Tracktive are the better known.

They will both support me next year but free labour and cost parts isn't enough. Need cash to develop and run the car which I just don't have.

I am 3rd in Club championship at the mo. 2nd fastest Subaru at most rounds I think. Always just behind Duncan
Old 08 September 2009, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by utaka
so what class would the car go in im confused i thought if you were not a pro driver you have to start in club challenge as like you said some newcomers may have loads of power and cant drive so surely you could not for example put me in club pro for my first ever experience of time attack surely. y would my car not be eligable does that mean i cant enter
With your spec I would say that your car is well and truly in Club Pro. If you are building that car I suspect that you can drive, so you should be ok in that class.

Go Club if you want by all means. But personally I would rather be a medium fish in a big pond than a big fish in a small one. Challenge yourself. Get out with Olly, Duxbury, etc in the club pro/pro group. Better exposure and better class of driver, less traffic, better laps. It's just better. I would be there if I could, they aren't that much faster!
Old 08 September 2009, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by andyscoobym3
Orr thats going to make it boring now
Won't make it boring - I have a job to do and it would be daft to risk that before having fun.

Paul will tell me whether I can let my hair down or not (if I had some )
Old 09 September 2009, 11:11 AM
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borrow some of mine matey. just shaved my head so a bit of bostic should stick it in place
totally agree with you sensible head on, only score what you need to to win now thats maturity unlike me(think im going to be one of the youngest) would get all guns blazing hamilton style and endup in a wall somewhere
i would love to give club pro a go, but this is what you would say is my first competetive motorsport, yes ive done track days for two+ years always in tuned subarus or evos but its like duncan said to me at silverstone last year "this is not like atrack day, you can be quick on a track day and nowhere out here, its very different" most powerful car i had was a 460bhp evo which died on the track but it was in full road trim, this subaru is a stripped race/track weapon only with 100 more bhp.been doing a lot of track work this year in the scooby clinic ice driver sti,or phil glewes tuition car(which is slow) although both setup perfectly handling wise they have no real grunt so you can only practice technique not speed.
ill get out in the car for a month or so then decide. i dont know if starting at the bottom and workig my way up would be more of a confidence booster as hopefully i would see a lot of podium, and a bit more of a feeling of acheivement to do weell in club and progress, plus i get a chance to learn the ropes in my first year, if not ill be in at the deep end, coz i am entering next year no question, in whatver class that may be
Originally Posted by dynamix
Won't make it boring - I have a job to do and it would be daft to risk that before having fun.

Paul will tell me whether I can let my hair down or not (if I had some )
Old 09 September 2009, 09:19 PM
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Hi there as you look at the front end of your car as it is stripped can you or someone please tell me what the big black tank behind the drivers side of the of the bumper is , cheers steve.
Old 10 September 2009, 10:42 AM
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haven't read your thread for a while mate...everything is going good i hope.

When is the engine going in with the turbo set up?
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hi mate
no you havent posted on my thread for a while. nothing exciting had one or 2 probs this week but its never plain sailing when your trying to make a subaru faster and as aerodynamic as a ferrari, on a budget! things are back on track now and im hoping the car will be back for its engine/gearbox soon, just gotta wait for boywork to be completed, then it back to scoobyclinic to be put together. everything is there ready to go. i really hope its done before winter comes so i can get some testing done
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haven't read your thread for a while mate...everything is going good i hope.

When is the engine going in with the turbo set up?
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Thought you were in Club Pro Andy?
no mate club challenge
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638hp 585lbsft 1128kg ... should do well
Old 11 September 2009, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
638hp 585lbsft 1128kg ... should do well
yours?
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Originally Posted by mneame
yours?
no, Andy's

Mine has less power and is a lot heavier.
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i still reckon by the time us kot have finished with the angle grinder i expect to see no more than 1200kgs, i know some of you have your doubts but i reckon were gonna get there. every single bit of weight is gone darren has cut as much panel work as he can away unless important major structure its gaawn brother. the kit is being made as thin as pos all impact bars gone oe seat rails gone. cradles gone. and that should be the final nail in the coffin in it being non road legal.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
no, Andy's

Mine has less power and is a lot heavier.
more torque though...600lbs\ft or so wasn't it?
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Originally Posted by trails
more torque though...600lbs\ft or so wasn't it?
It was 603 lb/ft but has not been run at that level this year.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
no, Andy's

Mine has less power and is a lot heavier.
Thought you'd been tweeking again.

I know what mike's classic was like with around 450 and a fair bit more weight and that felt quick enough! So Andy's would be pretty scary then
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Originally Posted by utaka
i still reckon by the time us kot have finished with the angle grinder i expect to see no more than 1200kgs, i know some of you have your doubts but i reckon were gonna get there. every single bit of weight is gone darren has cut as much panel work as he can away unless important major structure its gaawn brother. the kit is being made as thin as pos all impact bars gone oe seat rails gone. cradles gone. and that should be the final nail in the coffin in it being non road legal.
if you've got a full weld in cage though it should be ok though for the road shouldn't it?
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Originally Posted by dynamix
It was 603 lb/ft but has not been run at that level this year.
might have to turn up the boost for next season then
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Originally Posted by utaka
i still reckon by the time us kot have finished with the angle grinder i expect to see no more than 1200kgs, i know some of you have your doubts but i reckon were gonna get there. every single bit of weight is gone darren has cut as much panel work as he can away unless important major structure its gaawn brother. the kit is being made as thin as pos all impact bars gone oe seat rails gone. cradles gone. and that should be the final nail in the coffin in it being non road legal.

I hope you get the weight you want utaka im hoping to get mine high end of 1000kilos (classic type r )

Have you done any work on the triple skinned sills i,ve heard there is some weight to be lost on the newage there .
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to impractical now anyway its registered sorn now as its too low to wide too loud and to powerful in my opinion for the road, was never designed with the road in mind only time attack its a race car track only
Originally Posted by mneame
if you've got a full weld in cage though it should be ok though for the road shouldn't it?
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Originally Posted by dynamix
638hp 585lbsft 1128kg ... should do well
thanks duncan, i will do my best, the car is very late coming

andy h
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Originally Posted by mneame
Thought you'd been tweeking again.

I know what mike's classic was like with around 450 and a fair bit more weight and that felt quick enough! So Andy's would be pretty scary then
it is fu--in insane mate, how the hell i am going to get used to this car i will never no
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does NUCLEAR sum it up well.
my car will be run to start around 500 bhp most ive ever handled is 460bhp on my previous evo vi with full weight, so im pretty much bricking it i bet it feels leathal so god knows what your car must feel like
how did you find a car in the 400's to a car in the 500's i keep being told nothing will prepare you for the onslought of 500bhp+ in a 1200kg car, well im going to find out pretty soon hopefully

Originally Posted by andyscoobym3
it is fu--in insane mate, how the hell i am going to get used to this car i will never no
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Originally Posted by utaka
does NUCLEAR sum it up well.
my car will be run to start around 500 bhp most ive ever handled is 460bhp on my previous evo vi with full weight, so im pretty much bricking it i bet it feels leathal so god knows what your car must feel like
how did you find a car in the 400's to a car in the 500's i keep being told nothing will prepare you for the onslought of 500bhp+ in a 1200kg car, well im going to find out pretty soon hopefully
edmy took me out in mine for the first time after he mapped it (he said he did it just to see the expression on my face ) and he put his foot down and i was absolutely gob smacked and i said its fu--in rapid mate, and then he told me it was running at low boost 1 bar 500hp, then he said i will flick it to medium boost in a minuite 1.6 bar 600hp the difference was vast, he put his foot down and it lit the tyres up and went side ways, he said himself that the car is insane, and he has mapped 500, and 600, and 700hp cars regulaly, we only went out to check that the road speed sensor works and we got back in the garage and looked at each other and said, sh-t we didnt check the speed sensor, everything happens that fast you just dont have time to look at gauges or speedos, i realy dont know how andy forrest and zen and steven darley and the gobstopper cope, hats off to you guys and i have far less power than them all.

good look with yours mate 500+ with 1200kg is more than enough to make a big impact in next years timeattack providing you have the other ingredient, tallent obviously.

andy h


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