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Hublot are indeed ****. This years fashion/must have watch for the small of mind/ideas. Proper watch collectors would snigger at you wearing one.
If you're going to buy a watch in that style at least get an Audemars Piaget Royal Oak Offshore and be cool
If you're going to buy a watch in that style at least get an Audemars Piaget Royal Oak Offshore and be cool
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At least he has the wherewithal to actually be a proper watch collector (and the collection to go with it) rather than pressing his face at the window and collecting by proxy.
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Of course he has 
Lol, if that's a accusation/dig, I'm sorry to disappoint as i've got more decent watches than fingers (but not fingers and thumbs sadly...yet).
and as i'm sure your friend would know buying a watch that's in a window is a big no-no.
Hublot is the new kid on the block trying to crash the cool kids party wearing silly clothes and trying too hard to be crazy and different....and failing.
Lol, if that's a accusation/dig, I'm sorry to disappoint as i've got more decent watches than fingers (but not fingers and thumbs sadly...yet).
and as i'm sure your friend would know buying a watch that's in a window is a big no-no.
Hublot is the new kid on the block trying to crash the cool kids party wearing silly clothes and trying too hard to be crazy and different....and failing.
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les,
with the quality of the jap knock offs getting better everyday it is now very hard. jap movement that are more accurate than their swiss equivalent. thats why i bought a breitling. a lot of people see a rolex and because it is the most well known luxery watch, they think knock off. yoza has probably seen quite a few of them so he will be able to tell you what to look out for.
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les,
with the quality of the jap knock offs getting better everyday it is now very hard. jap movement that are more accurate than their swiss equivalent. thats why i bought a breitling. a lot of people see a rolex and because it is the most well known luxery watch, they think knock off. yoza has probably seen quite a few of them so he will be able to tell you what to look out for.
with the quality of the jap knock offs getting better everyday it is now very hard. jap movement that are more accurate than their swiss equivalent. thats why i bought a breitling. a lot of people see a rolex and because it is the most well known luxery watch, they think knock off. yoza has probably seen quite a few of them so he will be able to tell you what to look out for.
The good ones have Swiss movements - the same movement that you have in your Breitling (if it's an auto or Chrono) in fact i'm afraid in a lot of cases.
All the reps have tells, there is only one guy who makes a perfect Rolex rep and he has a lonnnngggg waiting list.
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Les, I can tell the differance beween the real thing and fake.
Mostly by pictures alone, but sometimes I need to see and feel them and use their functions.
Sometimes I need to take that back off and inspect the movement with a loope.
Spooky, whats up with you, your very aggressive, instead of talking about your friends watch, talk about the one/ones you own. Your quick enough to tell us what car you drive so come on dont be shy.
A photo of said watch/watches next to a jar of hotdogs is usually enough for validation.
PS. Your too old for a GT3 and you know it. X
Peace and love Yoza....it must be the feckin weather.
Mostly by pictures alone, but sometimes I need to see and feel them and use their functions.
Sometimes I need to take that back off and inspect the movement with a loope.
Spooky, whats up with you, your very aggressive, instead of talking about your friends watch, talk about the one/ones you own. Your quick enough to tell us what car you drive so come on dont be shy.
A photo of said watch/watches next to a jar of hotdogs is usually enough for validation.
PS. Your too old for a GT3 and you know it. X
Peace and love Yoza....it must be the feckin weather.
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Here's the latest rep of the new PVD (Physical vaopur Deposition) coated Black limited edition Pro-Hunter Daytona with Bakelite bezel
http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/p...ct/9daypvd.jpg
Here's the genuine watch
http://www.discoverprohunter.com/col...a_red/rd_6.jpg
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I love it, I did have buyers blues with it for a while, but it was guilt at spending so much on myself, but all is well now and its always first out the safe.
The Ceramic GMT MasterII went towards it.
You new Panerai looks like its seen the world, I dont do vintage as you know, but I hope you get the feeling from it.
The strap looks like a ginger biscuit, get some dubbing on it.
The Ceramic GMT MasterII went towards it.
You new Panerai looks like its seen the world, I dont do vintage as you know, but I hope you get the feeling from it.
The strap looks like a ginger biscuit, get some dubbing on it.
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Cool. I tried on a DSSD and quite liked it - a lot more than from pics.
The strap on the vinty pam is 90 year old Crocodile skin that used to be a ladies handbag
I had an up and down day with the watches yesterday - secured the old one above but my 111h and Daytona came back from 2 months away with my watchsmith and both aren't satisfactory which is damn annoying.
The strap on the vinty pam is 90 year old Crocodile skin that used to be a ladies handbag
I had an up and down day with the watches yesterday - secured the old one above but my 111h and Daytona came back from 2 months away with my watchsmith and both aren't satisfactory which is damn annoying.
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I am not aware that I am the one that described either one of my, or my friends watches as '****'; nor have I questioned or hinted at anyone else's veracity.
Must be an odd interpretation of aggressive.
As for my earlier comment it was intended as ironic - as indeed this was originally a joke thread - I will make sure that next time I utilise enough smilies to signal this clearly for you.
As for my own collection, much more modest - Breitling, Tag, Ellesse, Locman and one or two others.
Watches are not something I obsess about - just something to tell me the time.
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Nat , your panerai looks really cool. individual or what. what the provenance like on the watch. i love the interetsing stories. do tell.
does that include the COSC certified movements? do they just but the movements en masse and bung them into their repliacas
The good ones have Swiss movements - the same movement that you have in your Breitling (if it's an auto or Chrono) in fact i'm afraid in a lot of cases.
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My old pam is a bit of a put-together built piece....it's in the style of watches built for German Kampfschwimmers but the back has an inscription that fits the Decima Flottiglia Mezzi d'Assalto that Panerai also supplied...all the parts are vintage. How they all started life i don't know, it has many different stories in it...
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The COSC cert movements are just normal movements that have been sent to COSC and tested, they aren't "tuned" anymore than the same movements that are not COSC. The reps now are using ETA movements (2836, 2892, 2824 and others) like are used by a lot of genuine makers. This is why ETA is stopping selling movements to anyone outside of the Swatch group soon. For example the Breitling Superocean uses an ETA 2824 movement and so do the high end reps of it!
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Yeah the 7750 is widely used in rep world too...the chinese have copied it, but swiss movements are now being used too. Any maker that wants a watch certified just has to send it to COSC for testing and Breitling still do this along with Rolex they are the only makers that send all their watches to be tested. I'm pretty sure anyone can send them a watch for testing in fact if you pay the fee. Some makers like IWC, Audemars Piguet, Breguet, IWC, Jaeger-LeCoultre, A. Lange & Söhne don't send any watches to be tested.
Some sell the same watch in tested and non-tested versions - Omega did this with the Brosnan Bond Seamaster. Supply of tested watches could not keep up with demand so they just sold some without the certification.
Some sell the same watch in tested and non-tested versions - Omega did this with the Brosnan Bond Seamaster. Supply of tested watches could not keep up with demand so they just sold some without the certification.
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I have to disagree with Nat.
ETA movements found in Breitlings and Omegas are swiss made, made in Switzerland under strict guidlines and quality controls, the replica watches use the "same" movements but they are re-makes usually made in China.
So they get a Swiss movement and tear it down, then re-manufacture each part on a huge scale and re-build the movement.
They have low quality control, and watch builders skills vary from good to incompetent, its the luck of the draw as to whether you get a good one, or a bad one.
I have never seen a Swiss made movement in a replica watch, and I have worked on hundreds from rubbish to amazingly good.
BigSinky you have not wasted your money.
ETA movements found in Breitlings and Omegas are swiss made, made in Switzerland under strict guidlines and quality controls, the replica watches use the "same" movements but they are re-makes usually made in China.
So they get a Swiss movement and tear it down, then re-manufacture each part on a huge scale and re-build the movement.
They have low quality control, and watch builders skills vary from good to incompetent, its the luck of the draw as to whether you get a good one, or a bad one.
I have never seen a Swiss made movement in a replica watch, and I have worked on hundreds from rubbish to amazingly good.
BigSinky you have not wasted your money.
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Yeah they def use the Chinese ETA clones a lot and that's what the sites that advertise on the net and in email span etc use but the decent dealers also sell guaranteed Swiss (and these have been verified by independant watchsmiths) ETA movements too, usually for an extra $100. They're the same movemets (minus the decorated bridges, rotors etc) that ETA sell to the makers themselves. All the top-end rep makers sell Swiss movements exclusively in their watches. They're even putting Swiss 7750's in the chrono's now too, and 7753s in watches like the Santos Chrono that have the subdials in the revised places.
http://www.prowatch-polo.com - is a good example
Even the Chinese one's once serviced (they tend to massively over-lube them in the factory using the WD40 technique) and regulated will run well within COSC standards.
http://www.prowatch-polo.com - is a good example
Even the Chinese one's once serviced (they tend to massively over-lube them in the factory using the WD40 technique) and regulated will run well within COSC standards.
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Nat what is this...Chinese massP/Swiss chinese remake/Swiss for Breitling only ?
Not a test, but I do know what it is.
Sorry you will have to re-size to have a chance.
Not a test, but I do know what it is.
Sorry you will have to re-size to have a chance.
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i am no doubt about the money yoza. both my omega and breitling get outings on a pretty regular basis but was looking for something else that was not run of the mill recognisable. but you are limited at £1500 - 2500. could second hand the two i have and try to save for the iwc big pilot but i love my other two watches. like panerai as well and some of the audmars. any others in that sort of range you could recommend.
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Yoza, considering (as you well know) this thread was a pee take, you've managed to actually turn it into a fully fledged watch thread 
You have my respect
You have my respect