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Old 13 May 2009, 07:19 PM
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so now they know they have got it wrong with the whole "the ice cap is melting and we will all die soon because if it so we will tax you extra incase its going to happen"

do we get a refund
Old 13 May 2009, 07:20 PM
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Aah, a GW Agnostic.
Old 13 May 2009, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by r32
Yet we have this BBC report which says the opposite.........
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | New warning over Arctic ice-cap
No surprise there, I wouldn't believe a word the Governments mouthpiece (BBC) say about such matters!
Old 13 May 2009, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Sherwen
That right.

P=Density x Acceleration due to gravity x liquid head

Head is the vertical distance or a theoretical column of water.

Rearranging the formula gives:-

Height = Pressure /(Density x accel. due to gravity

Using round figures:-

Atmospheric pressure = 100 kPa=100 000Nm^2
Density of water = 1000kg/m^3
Accel due to gravity = 10m/s^2

Height=100000/1000x10
Height= 10m

Pressure is atmospheric pressure as when you suck through a hose, all you are doing is removing the air from inside that hose. The atmospheric pressure then forces the water up the hose to take the space of the sucked out air. Therefore the max height is limited by atmospheric pressure.

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so if atmospheric pressure was 200kPa, then you could lift water 20M?
Old 13 May 2009, 08:55 PM
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Yes.

Or if water was half the density!

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Old 13 May 2009, 11:13 PM
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What if the water was superheated then allowed to flash boil
Old 14 May 2009, 07:06 AM
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Then we'd be looking at gas laws and it's too early for that!

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Old 14 May 2009, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by r32
Yet we have this BBC report which says the opposite.........
BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | New warning over Arctic ice-cap
Bit of a lengthy read, but its interesting what they say about the Catlin Arctic Survey mission..

Skeptic's Corner: The Catlin Arctic fraud
Old 14 May 2009, 11:26 AM
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Yes it is.

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Old 15 May 2009, 12:14 PM
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Arctic is actually much thicker than this bunch of idiots claim. I heard there was an article relased that showed submarines surfaced, taken in 1986!!!!
Old 15 May 2009, 12:27 PM
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What did they achieve??

Catlin Arctic Ice Survey Packing It Up – What Have They Accomplished? Watts Up With That?
Old 15 May 2009, 12:41 PM
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The Yanks have been up there several times, but they will not try to break through (At least) 6 feet of ice (Pictures take by the Catlin team were of ice at the edge if the ice...where the sea starts LMAO).
Old 15 May 2009, 01:00 PM
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the only thing i am now sure of about climate change.

the general public has, and will never have a true grasp on the issue.

theres scientific evidence on both sides and most folks dont know the truth either way

i know i dont have enough inforamtion to make an informed desicion wither way

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Old 15 May 2009, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
the only thing i am now sure of about climate change.

the general public has, and will never have a true grasp on the issue.


theres scientific evidence on both sides and most folks dont know the truth either way

i know i dont have enough inforamtion to make an informed desicion wither way

That''s because the "science" has been hijaked by politicians. The general public are idiots and just want an easy life (Beer in the fridge, Deadenders on the TV etc etc). They don't have the slightest degree of ability to "do reaserch" 'coz sadly they expect everything they read in the interweby thing to be "gospel". Sadly it isn't.
Old 15 May 2009, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Klaatu
That''s because the "science" has been hijaked by politicians. The general public are idiots and just want an easy life (Beer in the fridge, Deadenders on the TV etc etc). They don't have the slightest degree of ability to "do reaserch" 'coz sadly they expect everything they read in the interweby thing to be "gospel". Sadly it isn't.
I bet you could say that for what politicians say too!

Les
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