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Old 28 April 2009, 08:43 PM
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Well i just read the two pages and i think its crap that you got stung mate.

Sounds awefully fishy to me, that weebell would gladly refund you the money, even if he "claims" that he wasnt involved.

i wish people like this would just sod off and stop thieving off genuine scooby enthusiasts. They deserve to be locked up and the key thrown away.. Disgusting
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Old 28 April 2009, 08:44 PM
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I raised this same issue with RSF@ckwit back in February (check my post below)when he robbed me of £85. The same guy is at again, it must be like taking candy from a baby, he got me when I raised a post in the wanted section. BTW Weeebell has said he will refund me my money also. hats of to the guy if it all happens, failure to do so should result in us raising a collective criminal case, he's taken hundreds across various forums.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scotland-2...ble-sting.html
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Old 28 April 2009, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rtm4676
I raised this same issue with RSF@ckwit back in February (check my post below)when he robbed me of £85. The same guy is at again, it must be like taking candy from a baby, he got me when I raised a post in the wanted section. BTW Weeebell has said he will refund me my money also. hats of to the guy if it all happens, failure to do so should result in us raising a collective criminal case, he's taken hundreds across various forums.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scotland-2...ble-sting.html
Yeah, lets hope so!

I have a mate who works in fraud and said if we dont get anywhere then he will investigate as a personal favour if i officially report it.

He says there is alot of it about and they always get their man as forums/paypal/email and everything leave IP trails etc so thats good news!

Hoping it doesnt come to that though!
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Old 28 April 2009, 09:06 PM
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Good luck with getting you rmoney back on this one mate these scumbags need to be named and shamed to protect everybody else

Fingers crossed for you dude
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Old 28 April 2009, 09:56 PM
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Weeebell or whoever you are, thanks for the token payment. I want full reinbursement for the £250 within 24 hours before this escalates any further Your choice!
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Old 28 April 2009, 11:04 PM
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Come on then weeebell you have stated your position as not being a trader .You know this person??
Name them then or sort it. You havent so far.
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Old 28 April 2009, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by skid11
Come on then weeebell you have stated your position as not being a trader .You know this person??
Name them then or sort it. You havent so far.

People involved have been PMd tonight and know whats going on.
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Old 28 April 2009, 11:44 PM
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Anyone involved back that up?
Didnt answer the question though?
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Old 29 April 2009, 07:28 AM
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Received a token payment of £60 in my Paypal account last night from Weeebell and have attempted to transfer it to my current account, so will see what happens there. He does seem to be to trying to resolve the situation. Paypal also kindly let me have his home address (if it's genuine) so if all else fails...
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Old 29 April 2009, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by skid11
Anyone involved back that up?
Didnt answer the question though?
Yeah, he has sent an explanation to me via PM and as long as the money is refunded ill no put it up on this thread.

Does seem a genuine explanation, but then i am a trusting guy (thats what got me into this mess!)
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Old 29 April 2009, 08:07 AM
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Sorry but still sounds fishy to me!

Abit like the next guys who's about to get busted on the 3 forums he's on scamming people and then now found the real forum he loves and is on all the time! Watch this space!
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Old 29 April 2009, 08:47 AM
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Seen this happen more and more over the years now. Do the mods ever get involved ? Surely they are in a position to see who is real / fake and be used as a middleman ?

If not, then perhaps there should be a thread / section noting previous issues, thieves etc etc. Or, like ebay, seller + buyer history / feedback ?

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Old 29 April 2009, 08:55 AM
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gotascoob offered me a uk300 spoiler but i said i would send a cheque wondered why he never replied ,**** if he had took it id have his address
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Old 29 April 2009, 08:57 AM
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oh and webell was apparently the one who sold him the uk300 replica as he had the car up for sale. very dodgy
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Old 29 April 2009, 10:25 AM
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I think weeeeeeeeeeeeebellend's account on here should be suspended until all debts have been paid to the parties in full, he sounds too dodgy.

PLEASE NOONE BUY OFF THIS GUY

I think to buy and sell goods on this forum you should have to become a member and give your full address details, phone number and account numbers of bank which should maybe have to be verified.

Could someone else think of options to stop this happening as i was ripped off for £250 on ebay for a FMIC for my last classic scoob, not on here i know but i know how it feels to be ripped off.
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Old 29 April 2009, 10:33 AM
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Whats this with Ayrshire people I've got a problem with paulcwrx from the same neck of the woods ,no relation is he?
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Old 29 April 2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby23
Of course he is
outrageous pot calling kettle black from one of the biggest car traders posting on scoobynet!

People in glass houses....
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Old 29 April 2009, 11:52 AM
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Up - Threads like this should be made stickys for all to see
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Old 29 April 2009, 12:02 PM
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Sold a clutch to Weebell and to be honestm he was a straight forward person to deal with.

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Old 29 April 2009, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Sold a clutch to Weebell and to be honestm he was a straight forward person to deal with.

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....should have a forwarding addess then, or was it collected? Might be able to help a few people out.
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Sold a clutch to Weebell and to be honestm he was a straight forward person to deal with.

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....should have a forwarding address then, or was it collected? Might be able to help a few people out.
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Old 29 April 2009, 12:34 PM
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Was posted, will dig up the details when I get home from work.

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Old 29 April 2009, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobboy
I think weeeeeeeeeeeeebellend's account on here should be suspended until all debts have been paid to the parties in full, he sounds too dodgy.

PLEASE NOONE BUY OFF THIS GUY

I think to buy and sell goods on this forum you should have to become a member and give your full address details, phone number and account numbers of bank which should maybe have to be verified.

Could someone else think of options to stop this happening as i was ripped off for £250 on ebay for a FMIC for my last classic scoob, not on here i know but i know how it feels to be ripped off.
S/N Isn't Ebay!

I disagree about having to give any bank details and addresses as data protection act etc...

I think anyone should not be aloud to sell anything on here till after 500 posts IMHO

And if there is a seller who don't have alot of feedback then it's the chance you take! Could always collect the item!

I have never had a bad dealing with anyone on here "yet" but I am fussy on who I deal with and always do a search on google and S/N to see if I can find anything bad with them! Snoopy I know but this can save people being ripped off like your self!
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Old 29 April 2009, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie-nutter
I think anyone should not be aloud to sell anything on here till after 500 posts IMHO

And if there is a seller who don't have alot of feedback then it's the chance you take! Could always collect the item!
I think limiting selling rights by number of posts on a forum is, quite frankly, a ridiculous idea. We all have to start somewhere and lets face it, not everyone wants to spend lots of their free time posting on a forum. Whilst number of posts and length of membership are a useful indicator i do not think they should be used as the finite guide to who is potentially good or bad

I do however, think it would be a good idea to limit the ability to sell items to people who have paid a nominal fee (say £2 per year or something) and thus making them a kind of member. Whilst paying the nominal fee people would also need to provide a valid address and landline number to be contacted on. EDIT: further to the nominal fee i also believe adverts should include at least one picture of each item and collection should be a mandatory option for all.

This should help weed out a few dishonest people whilst not puting any undue pressure on the genuine sellers out there. I believe this would further enhance the already successful itrader feature.

All my opinion but it makes sense in my head

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Old 29 April 2009, 01:49 PM
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I don't think people should just come on here to sell stuff! They should be part of the site for what it is! Not just for sale! "Hence" the post count!

I also think only Scoobynet paid up members should be aloud to post in the for sale rooms and NOT the people who ain't and are just free loading there bits off!

Agreed people have to start somewhere and my point is by starting to join in on the forum and getting to know people that will gain you trust and your post count!
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Old 29 April 2009, 02:19 PM
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personally it makes no difference if you are a paid member (i'm not and buy/sell on here never with any issues and i am personally offended that i should not be allowed unless i where a paid member, thats just a ploy to get people spending on membership) if you are intent on ripping people off then paying a membership first makes no difference whatsoever considering you are making 100% profit from monies recieved.
I also could sit and post all day to get my post count up knowing i was going to make money out of it.

people will always beat any system, people will always spoil things it's human nature and you will never beat it.

it's not my place to tell people what to do but you need to have some common sense when buying.

how many paople when agreening to purchase are getting a land line telephone number that they then call to confirm ?

how many people get an address and check it corrisponds to the telephone number (ie; area code)?

if paying via paypal then always use a visa card, you can then take advantage of the charge back system if you don't get your goods. (paypal have no choice but to return this even if the supplying party has no funds).

always try to collect or meet.

if in any doubt don't buy ! someone else will have what you want at some point close enough for you to go and collect.

the feedback system is great but as stated above everybody has to start somewhere.

i think all in all it's a no win situation, knowbody should be being ripped off in an ideal world.
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Old 29 April 2009, 04:23 PM
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i got ripped off here for £200 on a pair of STI rears, didnt cry about it just never purchased anything on here again, just ruins things for the other 99% of honest sellers.

scum tbh
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Old 29 April 2009, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TingTongPJ
personally it makes no difference if you are a paid member (i'm not and buy/sell on here never with any issues and i am personally offended that i should not be allowed unless i where a paid member, thats just a ploy to get people spending on membership) if you are intent on ripping people off then paying a membership first makes no difference whatsoever considering you are making 100% profit from monies recieved.
I think you have missed my point slightly. If people have to pay a nominal charge (could even be just a few pence) then the admins will have a fully traceable set of details to track dishonest individuals with. It was not suggested to be a ploy to get people to spend money on memberships etc, just a way of getting hold of traceable details IF there are problems. Couple that with an address and landline number and should anything untoward happens they can then provide the boys in blue all the details and, in theory, the case should be straight forward from there.

I did not make the suggestion to offend anyone and if i have done then i apologise. I am in the same boat as you with regards to not being a member and buying/selling fairly regularly.

We appear to agree 100% on the posting issue, and indeed the rest of the points you raise, so will leave it there
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Old 29 April 2009, 05:57 PM
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I made a suggestion to the previous owner that i believe would help greatly reduce all of these issues.

I got the idea myself from AVForums, where the Classifieds rules are much more Stringent.

for those who do not wish to read the whole rules i will break it down.

1. all items must have a Price.
2. all discussions relating to the sale must take place on the Forum and not via P.M (This makes it easier for all to see what's going on, and prevents disputes about who said what at a later date.)
3. when the sale is agreed both parties Must P.M their landline phone Number, and call the other party to ensure the number given is correct. (To be done via P.M only after Sale Agreed)
4. an address for both buyer and seller should be taken.


Non genuine sellers will not be happy giving out their home Phone Number, a mobile is not easy to Trace, but the police can trace a landline in mins.

The Itrader system is good but as this thread shows, people can register an account and sell stuff under false names.

I believe this place is getting better, but their is still room for Improvement, and some simple steps can prevent a lot of problems.

I have also been a Member of a few sites, where people selling goods had to confirm their address, the would pay a small one off fee, and the site would send mail to their address, the potential seller would then have to confirm a code in the letter, at which point they would become an verified seller.


Originally Posted by classifieds rules
These rules apply to everyone posting in the S-O-R classified forums whether they are the originator of a thread or replying to an existing thread.
They are somewhat detailed, but only because we want to avoid confusion. They are here to help avoid disappointment (from simple wasted time to out and out fraud), for both the vendors and purchasers. Please read them carefully and abide by the rules every time you post.
The rules are here to protect genuine, honest traders.


1, GENERAL
By posting in this forum you agree to abide by all of the rules of this forum and not to enter into any arguments with moderators, whose decision is final. Moderators of this forum are empowered to
a) impose a trading ban on members found to be breaking any rules of this forum.
b) remove any posts in any other forums questioning/arguing any decisions made by moderators here.
c) following fraudulent actions, terminate your S-O-R account, publish your details in the bad trader's thread and give your personal details to the damaged parties and the police.
Note: anyone deliberately defrauding other traders will be dealt with severely. We encourage defrauded traders to seek assistance from the police and we will actively assist the police to secure a conviction.
IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THE ABOVE, PLEASE DO NOT USE THE TRADING FORUMS.
Who may trade on the S-O-R?

* Nobody under the age of 18 may use the forum classifieds.
* Registered Users & S-O-R Members, cannot post new items for sale.
o ‘To list items please become a S-O-R Member+ or an Advanced Member.’
o S-O-R Member+ & Advanced Member subscription is for 12 Months.
* ‘Unauthorized Traders’
o ‘Traders must pay the Traders membership fee before using the classifieds.’ Trade subscription is valid for 12 Months.

What may you trade on the S-O-R?
You may trade personally owned items which are legal to sell in the UK
You may not trade:

* Pirated material such as copied games, DVDs or any storage media containing same
* OEM software (e.g. MS Windows) which is indented to be sold installed on a computer
* Alcohol
* Animals and Wildlife Products
* Counterfeit Currency and Stamps
* Counterfeit and Trademarked Items
* Credit Cards
* Drugs and Drug paraphernalia
* Firearms and Ammunition
* Fireworks
* Franking Machines
* Football Tickets
* Government IDs, Licences and Uniforms
* Lock picking Devices
* Lottery Tickets
* Mailing Lists and Personal Information
* Multi-level Marketing, Pyramid, Matrix and Trading Schemes
* Offensive Material
* Prescription Drugs and Materials
* Recalled Items
* Shares and Securities
* Stolen Items
* Surveillance Equipment
* Tobacco and Tobacco Products
* Unlocking Software


The penalty for breaking any of the following rules will be at the discretion of the moderators and will vary from a warning or a temporary trading ban to permanent exclusion from the forums.


2, ADVERTISING ITEMS
Users may post one thread each per classifieds Section. This is to maintain fairness and to prevent clogging up of the forums with multiple threads from one person. If you have a number of items for sale, or items for sale and wanted, please list them in one thread. Once your trade is complete to the satisfaction of both parties, or you wish to cancel your advert, please click Sold to close the ad. You are then free to start another.
If you wish to sell several items as a 'bulk' sale with one price for the lot, you may not then sell the goods individually unless you list a price for each individual item.


It is your responsibility to describe the goods accurately.
Be honest. If you misrepresent the condition or history of the goods, then the purchaser is within their rights to demand a partial refund or a return of the goods at your expense.
The admin of the S-O-R will endeavour to resolve any trading disputes and their rulings are final and must be adhered to.
If the S-O-R admin find you to be at fault in any way and you do not make good on the trade then you will be permanently banned from the classifieds forums and your details will be published in the bad traders' thread.


You must include a price in your for sale/for trade post.
Even if you are offering the goods to trade (because people inevitably offer you a price for goods even if they are advertised for trade). All ads must state if the price includes postage or not. If your post does not specify whether on not postage is included it will be assumed that your asking price includes delivery.


Profiteering by selling items at above the retail price or the price you paid for them is not allowed.
Asking a fair price is, of course, fine. But we feel it is our duty to protect forum members from advertisers deliberately overcharging for goods.


3, GOODS AVAILABLE ELSEWHERE
For all goods advertised, if the Item is for sale elsewhere you must state this in the Ad.


4, MAKING AN OFFER
you cannot make a higher offer after an offer has been accepted.
This rule prevents gazumping and turning the sale into an auction, which is prohibited on this forum.


You should only make an offer for an item when you have the funds to pay for it,
and should not post something like 'I am interested but need to sell this or that first to raise funds', do that before making an offer. (The seller may agree to wait if you have offered and it has been accepted, but this should be discussed in the thread with the seller, and it doesn't affect the seller's rights to refuse your offer).


5, PM, EMAIL AND PHONE USAGE
PM, email and phone may not be used at anytime in a live sale.
All discussions including offers, acceptances and refusals should be shown clearly in the thread. Once a sale is complete you may use whatever form of external communication you like to finalise payment details etc. Your general geographical location and detailed specifications of equipment are not considered to be valid reasons for using off thread communications. It is the responsibility of both the vendor and the purchaser to ensure that all negotiations are conducted in the thread.


6, NEGOTIATING THE DEAL
Fair play. If a vendor and a potential purchaser are in dialogue over the price of the goods and the vendor reduces the price for that potential purchaser, that price becomes the new asking price for all potential purchasers. However, the potential purchaser in dialogue has a 30 minute period in which to agree to that offer before other parties may 'jump in' offering that new price to secure the sale.

Wanted Adverts
Wanted adverts do not work in the same way as For Sale adverts. A Wanted advert is the sole property of the original poster, and items offered on a wanted thread are for the original poster only. Other members may make an offer, such as ‘if member x doesn’t want this, I’ll take it for the asking price’, but the original poster always has first refusal on the item. The 30 minute rule does not apply on a Wanted advert.
The seller offering the item may of course have their own For Sale thread with the same item available. Should an item have offers on both a Wanted thread and For Sale thread, then forum timings will be used to decide priority.
Otherwise the first unconditional offer of the asking price secures the sale. The vendor cannot accept an offer higher than the asking price.
Vendors may choose who they deal with. If a vendor has had a particularly negative or positive experience with a particular person, they may choose to deal or not to deal specifically with that person. If, however, this action breaks any of the other rules, a moderator must be contacted (by reporting the pressing the report Product link at the bottom of the ad.
If a vendor has two offers, one being an offer to trade and the other being an offer to sell, the vendor may choose which offer to accept.
Do not edit offers you have made in earlier posts in order to secure a deal. We take this kind of dishonesty very seriously.


7, WITHDRAWING FROM SALES
Once a sale has been agreed on the forums you may not withdraw from it without a very good reason. You will need to PM a moderator with an explanation. Even if you have a good reason, the moderators reserve the right to impose a short trading ban.


8, CLOSING YOUR ADVERTS
If you decide to close your advert with the goods either Sold or unsold, you should click report post button , and enter in the report, that you request the thread is closed and moved to the Classifieds Archive.


9, INFRINGEMENTS & SPOILING
If you see any rule infringements, we would be grateful if you would report these to the moderators by clicking the Report Product link at the bottom of the Ad under the poster's name. Please do not post comments in the thread as this will be considered to be spoiling.


You may only post normal trading dialogue in classified threads.
If you are making an offer and want to illustrate a price elsewhere then you don't have to include a link provided it's easy to find the evidence. E.g. 'Play have it for £9.99 so I'll offer £7.99'. If you assert that the goods can be found elsewhere at a certain price and this information is incorrect or difficult to corroborate then you are guilty of spoiling and the moderators will apply a trading ban. We advise that you provide a VALID link.
Auctions sites are not valid for price comparisons, and links to auctions must not be made by either buyers, or sellers.
You may reply within a trading thread ONLY if you are interested in participating in the trade. Anything else can be considered spoiling and will result in a trading ban. There is ONE exception to this: Even if you are not interested in taking part in the trade, in the interests of preventing someone from offering goods for sale at unreasonably high prices, we DO allow you to alert potential buyers to this by providing a valid link to a commercial web site selling that item (or the new model if the listed one is discontinued) new. For example, you see someone selling a used subwoofer for £200 when Richer Sounds are selling it for £210 new. You may post a link to the page on the Richer Sounds website where the subwoofer's price is displayed.


10, DISPUTES
If there is a dispute over an S-O-R trade, please take the following steps:
1) If your thread is no longer visible, (completed and expired threads are moved to the archive), and/or closed, then send a private message to a moderator asking that your thread be moved to the Disputed/Problem Trades forum and reopened.
2) Reply to your thread detailing exactly what has happened since the trade was agreed which has caused the dispute.
3) Report your new post to the moderators Report Post button asking for help to resolve the dispute.
The moderators will do their best to help bring the dispute to an amicable conclusion. This service is not available to trades which have occurred by private message.
and in doing so both trading parties may receive a trading ban.


11, GIVING AWAY ITEMS
You may not offer to give things away for nothing and then have an auction were people each bid a little more in each post.
If you want to get rid of something then say that it is free to good home to first person paying a specified sum for postage. Once some one offers this set amount, the deal is finalised. You may not accept a higher amount than that you have specified and must not encourage an auction. We would encourage you to auction the goods for charity.


12, CHARITY AUCTIONS
The only exception to the previous rule is when goods are auctioned for charity. It is permissible to hold an auction for charity, but ONLY with the prior permission of Admin, who will explain on an individual basis the special rules that apply to these events. If you don't want to administer the auction yourself, please ask in the forums and someone may offer to help.


13, YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES
All traders will be expected to visit the forum to deal with their trades roughly on a bi-daily basis. That is to say you should be able to respond to questions/offers etc within three or four days during the week. You will not be expected to visit weekends and if there is a delay in your responding, this will be taken into account. If you can only visit the forums infrequently - say on a bi weekly basis - then don't even think about trading here as people will expect you to respond to threads MUCH quicker than in 14 days! Anyone time wasting by visiting too infrequently or using that as an excuse will receive a trading ban.

The S-O-R and the moderators and staff, cannot accept any liability for any losses incurred from the use of the classifieds forums. If you are a victim of any activity you feel is illegal please report this to the Admin of the site.
Anyone who fails to honour their obligation in a trade will be contacted by email by admin to ask for an immediate resolution. If this is not forthcoming then we will treat it as a criminal matter and give all the information we have about you to the injured party and publish your details in the bad traders thread.
We will also permanently ban you from S-O-R.
This action is done to protect the community from deliberately fraudulent traders and by trading in the S-O-R you agree to allow forum admin to pass your details on in the circumstances and method described above.
You are responsible for all trades and sales you take part in. Goods sold remain THE VENDOR'S responsibility until RECEIVED by the buyer.
We strongly recommend that you
1) Request digital photographs of the goods you are purchasing.
2) Insist on insured delivery and make claims against that insurance where items are damaged or lost in transit.
3) If you are signing for receipt of goods, unless you have checked and are happy with their condition, mark the delivery receipt 'unchecked'. Otherwise if the goods are later found to be faulty, the vendor and the delivery company are not liable in any way.
4) Obtain and verify the details of the person you are trading with by, for example, calling them on their landline phone.
5) If you are transferring monies via bank transfer or any other digital means, check that the name and location of the receiving account matches the detail you have about the vendor and get proof of the transaction.
6) Refer to the good & bad traders' threads as a guide to the other person's trading history.
It is also your responsibility to read the rules and fully understand them before posting in the S-O-R classifieds. Any rule breaking will be dealt with according to the rules above and no conversation or correspondence will be entered into by the Moderators or Admin.
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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Hope this has a happy outcome
Well done mate! Thats some good work you did there to help out.
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