So this is what caused the fire !
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You'd need an independant mapper to look at the map and make their own conclusions.
It's at a Simtek specialists now anyway, so they'll be able to see if it was the map that was causing such recurring det.
Weather it was mechanical or map related the issue should have been resolved before an engine failure.
K18LLR is the only one who knows the in's and out's of what did and did not happen with his car, so he will be best to comment.
Personally imo even if it was the most agressive map available it still should not have been knocking so much as soon as it came on boost.
Any map should be created to allow a safe driving experience, otherwise why get a remap?...
If there was a mechanical issue that caused the incessant det it still should have been investigated until it was resolved.
The bright side of things are that K18LLR is finally getting the build he wanted and he/we should all be glad that his car will back, bigger and better than before ready to terrorise the streets of W.London!
It's at a Simtek specialists now anyway, so they'll be able to see if it was the map that was causing such recurring det.
Weather it was mechanical or map related the issue should have been resolved before an engine failure.
K18LLR is the only one who knows the in's and out's of what did and did not happen with his car, so he will be best to comment.
Personally imo even if it was the most agressive map available it still should not have been knocking so much as soon as it came on boost.
Any map should be created to allow a safe driving experience, otherwise why get a remap?...
If there was a mechanical issue that caused the incessant det it still should have been investigated until it was resolved.
The bright side of things are that K18LLR is finally getting the build he wanted and he/we should all be glad that his car will back, bigger and better than before ready to terrorise the streets of W.London!
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I don't think that i phone road dyno is good enough really to say the car was running that power.
Why did it blow?
1. To much power for the block
2. Anti lag on all the time
3. We all saw how you drove it
Looking forward to seeing the car once it's back on the road again.
Ash
Why did it blow?
1. To much power for the block
2. Anti lag on all the time
3. We all saw how you drove it
Looking forward to seeing the car once it's back on the road again.
Ash
2. no chance!
3. I wouldn't call putting my foot down in 5th gear and hitting 5k revs driving hard
It will be ready by the end of this month, then theres the boring part of running it in for 1k miles
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I was yes mate, hence the reason i sold it tbh, i couldn,t bring myself to spending 12k that,a with gearbox too on a classic mate, so i sold it to my Nephew who,s loving it to bits and rightly so, it,s a great car at 350/350..
I,m going to go Spec C again now mate, i,ll wait for the right car though...
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Im sorry guys but im just specking as i see it im not having a ago.
You (killer) and rally have both said the car was detting really madly in high gears when you too took it out for a drive before this happened.
So why the hell was you in 5th gear giving the car all it has over taking everyone at 100 MPH plus when you knew there was a problem.
From what you say it seems that u knew there was something wrong with the map before this happed so why did you not stay at home and come out and play after you got it sorted?
All so i would like to see a pic of the rest of the block (pistons) to see if they have any damage showing a lean mix as if they do not it will be a flue issue on the one cylinder and not a map issue.
Ash
P.s, Flam suite on
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I do not agree
Im sorry guys but im just specking as i see it im not having a ago.
You (killer) and rally have both said the car was detting really madly in high gears when you too took it out for a drive before this happened.
So why the hell was you in 5th gear giving the car all it has over taking everyone at 100 MPH plus when you knew there was a problem.
From what you say it seems that u knew there was something wrong with the map before this happed so why did you not stay at home and come out and play after you got it sorted?
All so i would like to see a pic of the rest of the block (pistons) to see if they have any damage showing a lean mix as if they do not it will be a flue issue on the one cylinder and not a map issue.
Ash
P.s, Flam suite on
Im sorry guys but im just specking as i see it im not having a ago.
You (killer) and rally have both said the car was detting really madly in high gears when you too took it out for a drive before this happened.
So why the hell was you in 5th gear giving the car all it has over taking everyone at 100 MPH plus when you knew there was a problem.
From what you say it seems that u knew there was something wrong with the map before this happed so why did you not stay at home and come out and play after you got it sorted?
All so i would like to see a pic of the rest of the block (pistons) to see if they have any damage showing a lean mix as if they do not it will be a flue issue on the one cylinder and not a map issue.
Ash
P.s, Flam suite on
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I do not agree
Im sorry guys but im just specking as i see it im not having a ago.
You (killer) and rally have both said the car was detting really madly in high gears when you too took it out for a drive before this happened.
So why the hell was you in 5th gear giving the car all it has over taking everyone at 100 MPH plus when you knew there was a problem.
From what you say it seems that u knew there was something wrong with the map before this happed so why did you not stay at home and come out and play after you got it sorted?
All so i would like to see a pic of the rest of the block (pistons) to see if they have any damage showing a lean mix as if they do not it will be a flue issue on the one cylinder and not a map issue.
Ash
P.s, Flam suite on
Im sorry guys but im just specking as i see it im not having a ago.
You (killer) and rally have both said the car was detting really madly in high gears when you too took it out for a drive before this happened.
So why the hell was you in 5th gear giving the car all it has over taking everyone at 100 MPH plus when you knew there was a problem.
From what you say it seems that u knew there was something wrong with the map before this happed so why did you not stay at home and come out and play after you got it sorted?
All so i would like to see a pic of the rest of the block (pistons) to see if they have any damage showing a lean mix as if they do not it will be a flue issue on the one cylinder and not a map issue.
Ash
P.s, Flam suite on
When a car is mapped or built by someone, it should not at any time leave the workshop or mapper's hands unless it is fully roadworthy or driveable.
What's the point of paying someone x amount of £ if you can't drive it?
On top of which, if as Omar says he was advised to drive by the mapper without issue, why shouldn't he?
He was advised that the detcans were quiet and it should be fine.
Weather it was a fuel issue or a det issue, either way they were both issues which should have been looked at. Nonetheless with Subaru engines you cannot say that all pistons have to melt for it to be a lean mix.
With the Simtek you can actually control how much fuel each cylinder is getting and adjust it accordingly. Some mappers add more fuel to a certain cylinder as it is prone to heating the most and causing issues.
I think this also is maybe the 1st car running a Simtek that has melted a piston?...
But it's all by the by now anyway, there's no point in continuing to speculate on what Omar should have and should not have done.
Don't worry about it Ash, as said when the car is running again the map etc can all be looked at and Omar I'm sure will be happy to show everyone a report of the full damage and possible causes.
Omar, just get some pics of the new build up asap, so we can see how it's going!
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As said guys im not starting a fight just most people on here know i say what i feel and i cant help but feel if u both thought there was something already wrong with the car why push it so hard.
Ash I'll have an engineers report made about the blown engine by a top Subaru Tuner / Mapper if it makes you happy...
Thanks for the offer but if it's not gonna make me any money it's no good to me.
Ash I'll have an engineers report made about the blown engine by a top Subaru Tuner / Mapper if it makes you happy...
Thanks for the offer but if it's not gonna make me any money it's no good to me.
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I know where your coming from Ash, and appreciate it.
I'm just saying it how I see it as well
If my mapper told me that I could drive it hard if I wanted to I would, as would anyone else.
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Omar viewed all the comments and advise but one thing you must do is get a fire extinguisher no matter what the cause was. I am having mine remapped by Amir over at evolutions in luton just waiting for the apexi from Japan. if you can remember my thread it was lean on fuel at 5.5 rpm dettining hard would never of known if was not put on the dyno anyway will let you no should be done this week ready for the tunnel run.
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Omar viewed all the comments and advise but one thing you must do is get a fire extinguisher no matter what the cause was. I am having mine remapped by Amir over at evolutions in luton just waiting for the apexi from Japan. if you can remember my thread it was lean on fuel at 5.5 rpm dettining hard would never of known if was not put on the dyno anyway will let you no should be done this week ready for the tunnel run.
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Omar viewed all the comments and advise but one thing you must do is get a fire extinguisher no matter what the cause was. I am having mine remapped by Amir over at evolutions in luton just waiting for the apexi from Japan. if you can remember my thread it was lean on fuel at 5.5 rpm dettining hard would never of known if was not put on the dyno anyway will let you no should be done this week ready for the tunnel run.
fire extinguishers are a must my engine set a light TWICE once when i was pulling in to a petrol station didnt even know till some one shouted it. 2nd time when i was out ripping it with the lads luckily a close friend of mine noticed the fire flashed me got extinguisher out and put it out.
you can buy them for around a tenner and a very wise investment after what i saw on another thread with the spec c. not nice at all.
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Mus - Rikky already has a uprated fuel pump (walbro), it made no difference, he needs the car mapped really
Omar - who mapped your car?
Mus - what exactly happeend to your car again? who built it and mapped it?
Omar - who mapped your car?
Mus - what exactly happeend to your car again? who built it and mapped it?
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when i was having my car mapped it was running lean on top end didnt have clue weather it was a fuel pressure reg, injectors eventuly found out it was a faulty walbro pump.
i bought my short engine of r4lly, slowboy carried out the engine swap and mapping.
i dont quite know what really happend to my engine as yet im due to find out by mid next week. all iremmeber i was on the a406 passed the finchley exit heading to colindale and just after a camera past the bridge i was too busy smilling looking at my rear view mirror the check engine light flashed i took my foot off and the point was too late oil went all over my windscreen and i was on 6.5k rpm 4th gear with smoke everywhere i was ****ting myself as the car totally stalled and at that speed im greatfull to god.
but like ki8lla im looking forward to my new build. anything else mr M.I.5 lol
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when i was having my car mapped it was running lean on top end didnt have clue weather it was a fuel pressure reg, injectors eventuly found out it was a faulty walbro pump.
i bought my short engine of r4lly, slowboy carried out the engine swap and mapping.
i dont quite know what really happend to my engine as yet im due to find out by mid next week. all iremmeber i was on the a406 passed the finchley exit heading to colindale and just after a camera past the bridge i was too busy smilling looking at my rear view mirror the check engine light flashed i took my foot off and the point was too late oil went all over my windscreen and i was on 6.5k rpm 4th gear with smoke everywhere i was ****ting myself as the car totally stalled and at that speed im greatfull to god.
but like ki8lla im looking forward to my new build. anything else mr M.I.5 lol
i bought my short engine of r4lly, slowboy carried out the engine swap and mapping.
i dont quite know what really happend to my engine as yet im due to find out by mid next week. all iremmeber i was on the a406 passed the finchley exit heading to colindale and just after a camera past the bridge i was too busy smilling looking at my rear view mirror the check engine light flashed i took my foot off and the point was too late oil went all over my windscreen and i was on 6.5k rpm 4th gear with smoke everywhere i was ****ting myself as the car totally stalled and at that speed im greatfull to god.
but like ki8lla im looking forward to my new build. anything else mr M.I.5 lol
Seems like you have suffered a similar scenario to K18LLR's car...