Diesel

I guess all you 'Boy George community service' idealists don't have daughters who you'd protect with your very life?.

The key difference here is this guy WAS CONVICTED. They should have aimed higher though.

D

Jamz3k

what a narrow minded reply. I've known people who hand out this sort of justice and to be honest they've done worse than said "rapist" the only difference is they find ways of getting away with it but sure salute their good natured ways

So what have these Thugs accomplished? Nothing, they've shot someone who will now get a more leanient sentence due to these actions and will now probably stay on state benifits for the rest of his life earning more money than you probably will due to the stress he's been under.

Well done!

SunnySideUp

Should have simply killed him then?

Diesel

Jamz - note you are from Norn Iron so prob have more insight/experience here, but we put up with a lot of namby pamby posturing, 'drop the case', PC bollox over here. That bit of real justice looks like a breath of real justice and fresh air.

And yes if it keeps one schoolkid from being raped them him being at home, on benefits, dabbing his scabby knees with TCP suits me and my kids just fine! D

Martin2005

I love the way that if you don't condone violence then you are either gay, or not a father. Well I'm not gay and a father of 2 young children. and I utterly deplore these actions...utterly. Whats more I teach my kids to deplore violence in all it's forms.


Why are some of you so impressed with some evil villans maiming another evil villan i don't know. (anyway i guess an even bigger gang now need to take revenge upon this gang).

What is the logical extention of this guys..... anarchy, bloody anarchy!

Violence isn't something to be 'glad' about

Martin2005

Calling something 'PC Bollox' has become the SN way of attacking anyone who doesn't share cave man morals and prehistoric values.

It's not PC Bollox to condone violence, it's utter bollox trying to justify violence

unclebuck

If you're 'big man' trolling keyboard warrior then 'yes' is the answer.

I for one would like to see the make believe 20stone megalith with his Alsatian dog dispensing the 'justice' on our behalves

Martin2005

typo corrected

unclebuck

Thanks...

Martin, only the immensely stupid could advocate politics of this sort.


On that we remain united...

Lee247

I would love to comment in this thread, but I shall refrain. Being of the female persuasion, I see thing totally different to some you chaps.

Spooky Mulder

I love the smell of testosterone in the night as I am a gay PC Bollox, accidental father ( due to gayness) who is shocked at the mob rule being advocated here.

Indeed this thread separates the men from the boys. Unfortunately it is the boys who actually think they are men by vicariously meting out marsupial justice.

unclebuck

amen to that - sadly the 'boys' will not be able to make any sense of..

Paul3446

I somehow always imagine PSLewis being the sort of saddo who doesn't really know how to talk to women, let alone get a wife!

Diesel

Carry on boys - looks like the country's right on course and we are getting safer in our homes/houses/streets.

You may live your life in theory, sadly real life is a little different and the strong prey on the weak etc (but often not with 'enough evidence' to do anything about it). How many 'warnings' etc did that London Black Cabbie rapist have? Could he have continued to rape dozens more with fewer kneecaps; ok being flippant there but you get the gist...

Personally I still want to give the toerag that nicked my STi V a good shoeing - sorry if that destroys wondrous society and makes me a troglodyte numbnut. Also I'd like to see you be so dispassionate if it was YOUR daughter that was raped - if you were half a man you'd want to tear his head off and stick it up his.... I also 'snapped' and smacked a man that was seriously beating a beautiful Red Setter with a stick in Greece once - maybe you'd prefer I filled out a form? Ahh but cavemen cant write can they

This NI one was a one off incident that I think may do society some good and act as a deterrent - its not about condoning this as the brilliant new everlastinmg way forward (I did see that Theroux doc on South Africa recently after all...)

Pass the TCP and the platitudes

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Leslie

I'm surprised they did not shoot him in the fergibblers!

Les

bigsinky

it's is plainly daubed on gable walls round my way. rapists, drug dealers and housebreakers WILL be shot. I say he knew the consequences so tough.

GC8WRX

So if someone tried to rape one of your kids, and the were CONVICTED, you would be ok with the soft sentence the courts would dish out?

If so your too PC for your own good, dont be so soft!

If it was my kids, i would want a gun, and i would probably shoot the **** myself, or at least fill him in with a bat and a couple of mates (i mean really **** him up, not just a beating).

If people convicted of this **** get shot more often, it will be more of a deterrant than any court case!

GC8WRX

Agree with the rapists and housebreakers, but leave the dealers alone LOL! (actually shoot the coke and H dealers, leave the weed ones alone!)

Forgive my ignorance, but im not sure about the present situation in ireland and how it might affect us;

Me and 11 mates are going to dublin on the **** on the last bankholiday in may cos its 3 of us birthdays in may, we dont cause trouble but dont take any **** either, is it likely to kick off, with us being a big group of pissed up englanders, or will the locals be ok and have a laugh?

Dont fancy a night in irish cells LOL!

Martin2005

The obvious point which you miss of course is that it wasn't the parents taking revenge for the rape of their daughter, that we are talking about here is it? I thought it was some sort of vigilante action probably carried out by a paramilitary group.

Using your logic, the group that shot the rapist must now be hunted down and shot.

None of this does any good to anyone, it doesn't 'Un-rape' the poor girl, it doesn't help the cause of a better society, it's just blood lust plain and simple

I don't agree with soft sentences for rapists I want much tougher sentences

Leslie

Those who live in such a manner should expect the strongest penalties.

Les

GlesgaKiss

Ok, imagine this for a second...

Taking the terrorist aspect out of this, imagine you've got a 14 yr old daughter. She's full of confidence, very intelligent, and has a lot to give the world. Someone attacks her when she's minding her own business, and then rapes her. You know exactly who he is: a convicted sex offender who's got away lightly from countless attacks.

Now he's just been let away lightly with this, and the 'sentence' he has been given barely affects him. Your daughter on the other hand has lost all her confidence, her friends after shutting them out...she's a totally different person who spends every day miserable, becoming more and more reclusive. She'll never be the same again.

You know where this creep lives, and there's not a shadow of a doubt that it was him. Are you telling me you wouldn't do anything? He's ruined an innocent young girl's life for nothing, and it has not even affected him in the slightest.

People like that deserve to be on the wrong end of a baseball bat.

Martin2005

And what do people holding the 'right' end of the baseball bat deserve??

We can all come up with terrible scenarios to make a point, but it doesn't change the point, IT WASN'T THE CHILDS PARENTS TAKING REVENGE so I'm sorry but your example just isn't valid.

bigsinky

well you don't normally argue with a 9mm in the back of the head. keep yer gobs shut and don't come into northern ireland via crossmaglen and you lot should be ok

bigsinky

call me narrow minded, bigotted, supporter of terrorism if you want but that's NI justice for you. has been that way since the late 60s and because of the polarisation of certain areas in NI the paramilitaries will always mete out their "appropriate justice" for anti-social behaviour. the PSNI are worse than useless over here, so people in these areas usually demand recompense in some way.

Martin2005

I understand why it happens, but that doesn't make it right to shoot someone does it?

When is someone going to hand out some summary justice to the paramilitaries then? It's the logical extension of the arguement

Jamz3k

Just because its what happens doesn't make it good or even right mate. I could not and would not condon, don't get me wrong its nice to see someone get their just desserts but its not acceptable in a modern society.

Too true about the PSNI they are useless *******. I called them a few weeks ago regarding a bunch of chavs playing chicken with cars near my street (i near knocked one of them over) and arsing about with traffic cones etc. Funnily enough the same night my car got damaged, I wonder how they found out who squealed on them?

GlesgaKiss

Martin, I know I have gone off topic.

But I don't agree with this whole thing of 'cave man instinct not having a place in modern society'. Yes, things have changed beyong belief, but what you're talking about is human instinct. Revenge is an instinct you have for a reason, and that's how 'justice' came about in the first place. Modern society is complex, but when it comes down to it, all the simple aspects of human nature as still there as much as ever.

Martin2005

Well Revenge is Revenge and Justice is Justice they should never be confused.

As for the cave man thing, well the more we rid ourselves and our society from violent instincts the better. So sorry I can't agree with you on that one, afterall it was similar instinct that lead to the rape of this poor girl.

bigsinky

we tend to turn a blind eye to it martin. if the PSNI and judicial system worked and judges handed out sentences that reflect the serverity of the offense then the paramiltary style "justice" would be a lot less. i make no apology for my views however "neandethal" them may seem. had it been my daughter on the other end of the rape i would be in jail now.