DCI Gene Hunt

Let's not confuse immigrants with asylum seekers, and since when were lesbians considered a "bad thing"

Turbohot

Talking about confusion, some people think that all dark-skinned people are illegal immigrants A mate saw a cluster of international students from local university having a snowball fun fight on the roadside. He said that he thought they had just jumped out of a container from some German Lorry

Gestalt springs to mind

hodgy0_2

Most of the asylum seekers are fleeing wars zones, the perpetrators of which fight them with arms we have sold them.

So if you compile 2 lists -- asylum seekers countries of origin and another, top recipients of arms sales, they correspond quite well

An analysis of these two lists could conclude that if our arms industry didn't peddle death and misery around the world we might not get the results.

DCI Gene Hunt

The use of logic and reason, there's a refreshing change....

tanyatriangles

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But see MY post about GENUINE asylum seekers

SWRTWannabe

One reason for not supporting Comic Relief's efforts to provide mosquito nets to prevent malaria is that according to the wikipedia article on Malaria, these nets often end up being used as fishing nets instead.

As for asylum seekers - why are they seeking asylum here when they have come from France - surely they should be seeking asylum there instead?

The Zohan

As an asylium seaker coming from Africa or the ME then chances are you will have to travel through 4 or so EU contries to get here to the UK. Not all but most will.

Asylum seakers (if that is what they genuinely are in fear of thier lives and persecution) do seem well informed and know where they want to go, i suppose that if we in the UK were not such a soft touch with the best benefits including housing and healthcare avaliable then they would not be so keen to spend additional days/weeks and money getting here.

Maybe this is less to do with "quick get me out my life is in danger" more to do with "how much can i get when i get there"...I could be wrong of course but then agian why spend the extra time and cash, what possible reasons???

The Zohan

I think you will find that a .50p machete as used in Africa and Rwanda for instance is hardly classed as 'arms' more a farm implement. Much more scary and just as effective as an AK or a land mine for removing limbs - the problems are the attitudes of those vile perpetrators of the crimes and regimes.

We supply food and medicines to these counties and i wonder how much is used to buy arms as such.

Incidentally, the AK which is the most prevalent assault weapon is manufactured in Russian and/or China. Easy to use, maintain and repair and will work even after being submerged in mud or sand. Most coming from Eastern Europe

Turbohot

Or, "I might be the safest in the UK while I am out there", or, "labour is not so policed in the UK, and I can at least pack some chickens to support my livelihood".

I feel terrible for all those genuine asylum seekers who have to flee from their unstable countries in war, and start from scratch somewhere else, facing so much doubt, hatred and negativity from the natives of the host country. I wish it never had happened to anyone. What kind of life is that!

As for the fortune hunters, people should stop migrating to NZ, Canada and Ausiland etc. for the betterment of their lives. Many British Originals (like Levi's Original) do that, don't they?

hodgy0_2

very few of these vile regimes survive with only access to .50p Machettes

my Gran died aged 87 having smoked every day since she was 14 -- but I would not use this as evidence for the safety of smoking

The Zohan

I think you will find that they arm the 'troops' with what they can get away with, if you look at Rwanda for instance a lot of the killings, etc took place using the machette and Ak, not expensive weapons systems and munitions.

My answer was to the original resonse re are we have sold them. WE do sell arms as a country, more exclusive and expensive than a lot of the used tat coming out of Eastern Europe and Asia. I am sure that there are UK based below the radar dealers brokering EE arms and munitions but they do not represent the country or its people.
Where do you think most of the small arms now so prevelant in the UK come from?

The reasons behind people coming to the UK across Europe and other safe EU contires such as France, Belgium, Germany, Spain, Italy, Holland, etc is that the UK offers the best benefits, not a sanctuary issue and not to be confused as one

The Zohan

I have a lot of their films!

unclebuck

Yea, it would be in 'dumbassville' - the place you inhabit