G00ner

I've never had an Edge symbol appear on my 8900 and have done a bit of research and it generally looks like Voda don't have a UK Edge network.

G00ner

PS, if you can get out of the contract and don't like Blackberry's then your next best bet would be the Nokia E71, a fine phone and a bit of a looker imo.

Nokia Europe - Nokia E71 - Products

JackClark

A great concept indeed and one every manufacturer is now trying to follow with limited success, including Blackberrys.

Full of issues I have to dispute, read through this thread and you'll find the list of issues larger for the Blackberry.

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I have had both so I know it first hand. The iphone is one very cool gadget but mine crashed all the time and was slow when it was working. Even replacements were the same. MY experience of blackberry's is superb. My last 8800 went 18 months without any faults and my bold has gone since october without a single fault. My original blackberry that I had before the 8800 was the same.

People get very sensitive when anyone talks the iphone down. Its a fantastic bit of kit but I had a bad experience, I haven't with BB's.

All I am doing is offering the OP MY experience with both, others of course will have different experiences. Thats what a post like this is for, to ask for balanced opinions.

Chop

Snazy

You would need to be in a 3G coverage area to get the EDGE symbol. I get it on my 8320, and Voda say they provide it. So either you have the connectivity limited NOT to use EDGE or you dont go into 3G areas. If thats the case, then it would be pointless having 3G too.

With regards to doing the research, their OWN website says they DO provide EDGE in the UK.


E71 definatly gets the thumbs up from me too. A friend has one, and for a while I was jealous as thats what I was after, but now im more than happy with the BB.

I would not say that the BB Storm is in any way trying to emulate an iPhone, but has given in to market pressure to provide a touch screen device. Touch screens which have been about a long time, way before the iPhone.

lol im not sure that BB's have more issues than iPhones, each to their own, and whatever your preference and all that.... But the only issues really put on here for the BB have been losing tones etc, not crashing and batteries dying too quickly.

Snazy

I have not owned an iPhone, but have used them, and me and the phones just did not click. The same can be said for all touch screen phones. To me they are gimmicky, and too "trick" to bother with.
My preference will always be something with a keypad.

As for reliability, my BB has not missed a beat yet, and I love the ability to customise, and regular OS updates

G00ner

I live and work in Poole and have full strength signals with all providers, even 3 lol.
The Voda tower here is deffo 3g, my Bold has 3g when I put my Voda sim in it, but still don't get Edge with the 8900 (it is enabled). I work all over the country too and have never seen the E symbol whilst on Voda.

Have done another Google and it deffo appears that Voda don't support Edge in the UK and that Iphones/8900's etc will default to GPRS instead.

Snazy

Thats seriously bad then, and unlawfully misleading by Vodaphone if true. I dont see why they would put it on their website if not true.

Either that, or something seriously wrong with the 8900. Possible SIM incompatability issue.

Coffin Dodger

There's a lot of stuff that isn't true on the Vodafone website, like the bit about Passport where you can get cheaper calls from abroad in certain countries.

Can be applied to all tariffs according to the website, well all except mine that is No sir we can't do that but we can put you on a more expensive tariff and you can have it then, might be able to upgrade you with a really cheapo phone if you agree to another contract with us as well

I'm now with Orange, took several calls to Vodafone to get a number porting code out of them, average 15 minutes on hold before getting to speak to someone each time having to explain again why I wanted to leave. Ring Orange to give them the porting code and was speaking to a real person in under a minute.

Vodafone seem to have really gone to the dogs of late and won't be getting me back for sometime

RJMS

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I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned the Nokia E90 - sure it's bigger than the average phone but still plenty small enough to fit in a pocket. The screen is just enormous (for a phone) ideal for browsing. I'm delighted with mine, had it six months and no issues - I think 02 still do them.

bigsinky

went with a BB 9000 Bold on a voda tarriff. phone should arrive today between 8.30 and 13.30 hence me up and about at this ungodly hour on a saturday. soccer am and then the man u v liverpool match in hd. when am i going to get to play with my phone this morning?


@snazy downloaded the .247 OS in preparation for the phone's arrival (**** me 112MB). is the upgrade a relatively painless process and should i do it before i start sorting out the settings for the phone?

TIA

Sinky

G00ner

Yeah do the update first, otherwise you'll have to do some of it again as the os update will wipe the phone.

Info here - Proper Upgrade / Downgrade Procedure - BlackBerry Forums at CrackBerry.com

I've updated both my 9000 and 8900 at least 10 times now without issue, even in a worst case scenario and you 'brick' the phone, they can still be easily recovered.

You'll need Blackberry desktop manager too, try and get 4.6 as 4.7 is a little buggy.

Snazy

Could not have said it better myself
Very straight forward to do, and even if you think its going pear shaped, leave it to run its course. For a novice (like me) it can look a bit worrying at times lol.

Crackberry is brilliant for sourcing geniune OS updates, and instructions on using them. And also leave it a week or so when the new one comes out, and watch the thread for issues.

If you have the phone yet, add me on your contacts, PIN 254d4e45
Any other BB people, feel free to add the pin too if you ever wanna chat for any reason

Deep Singh

Right, an update.

After my first iphone being faulty I was given a new sealed/boxed one. Guess what? The second one was faulty aswell! Same fault, screen goes blank whilst making a call and will not come back.

Now I know I could have just been unlucky, and even very good dbrand names develop faults, but putting this together with the fact I've had two ipods that also went to poo I have just one conclusion; APPLE IS ****E. I will NEVER buy another Apple product again.

About 1 in 3 iphone users I speak to say they also have problems with it. How does Apple get away with this level of unreliability?

CPW, agreed to cancel the whole contract. It will take a few days for the return to show on thhe system, and then I can start all over again, thank god.

So, I'm thinking of going with the BB Bold this time unless anybody has any other suggestions?

I'll buy direct from 02 this time so I get the 14 day cooling off period

Snazy

Fair play mate, sorry to hear its ended that way. Fair play to CPWH for agreeing to cancel though.

I would not say dont get a bold for one second Especially if you definalty need the 3G on it.
After what you were saying about stocks etc, I have been poking about, and it appears there are some good apps out there for them.

Viigo is a great all rounder for staying in touch with everything from the markets to the weather

If you decide you can live without the 3G, go for the 8900

Good luck getting it sorted finally mate. Oh and does it HAVE to be O2 ? Orange have some good offers on at the moment for BB tariffs.

RJMS

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Nokia E90 - in case you missed my previous post

boxst

I know quite a lot of people with iPhones and none of them have had problems and uniformly all love it. None have had a DOA phone. They are some niggles (MMS / Cut&Paste / Battery Life), but nothing that they weren't warned about!

Steve

eureka

iTrader: (1)

had my blackberry for 18 months no probs at all i wouldnt have nowt else

Snazy

PS, have a read of Blackberry 101 to decide if its right for you

Lecture 1: Why BlackBerry? | CrackBerry.com

mbc

i have a storm and its great for everything i need

had an iphone too which broke previous, will always have a blackberry going forward excellent business handset

Deep Singh

Thanks

RJMS, O2 no longer sell the E90, and I'd really like to stay with 02 and buy from them, their return policy is far better than CPW, Phone 4 u etc

What do people think of the 02 XDA Ignito?

Thanks

Deep Singh

OK, ok, I submit! I'm going to get a BB Bold!

RJMS

iTrader: (2)

Fair enough - I don't think you'd be returning it though

Snazy

lol sorry mate, am I going on a bit

IF you do, im sure you wont regret it.

Snazy

Ignito looks like the Touch Diamond which is what I had.
Good phone, could not fault it, except I just dont like touch phones. Was the first one that actually had be contemplating keeping it though.

bigsinky

good choice DS. i paid extra for saturday delivery from voda. guess what... didnt arrive. phoned voda and to their credit they refunded the postage costs and gave me a £5 credit off my first bill. just have to wait until monday now i wanted to play today

Snazy

Well that sucks then !! Would it not have been easier to pop to the store? Then again, I dont lol.

Bad start to the BB experience, lets hope it gets better.
Should have got the 8900 lol

bigsinky

8900, 8900, 8900. vocabulary of one word. s'pose at least you have yours. yeah it sucks but hey

[best mafia voice on]
whatta ya gonna do
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will add your pin when i get the goods. you might live to regret it though coz you is gonna be tortured. i will probably loose the damn thing in some drunken stupor on st paddy's day or drop it in my pint of guinness like a depth charge. no wait it woundn't fit in a pint glass as it's wider than a fookin bus

Snazy

lol I can only keep saying 8900, but only because I want one, not cos I have one. I have a 8320 Curve, older model lol.

I wont regret it mate, I can easily delete you lol.
As for it not fitting in a pint glass, surely thats a good thing? Makes a great beer mat!

bigsinky

check out my wallpaper on crackberry. gorgeous mercedes SL65 AMG, drooooolllllll.