what are your thoughts on men hitting women?
10 March 2009, 02:26 PM
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As a side point one very cute little blond girl I know loves a bit of violence to get her in the mood. She actually needs some surpisingly hard slaps and the occasional punch to get going.
She just loves being brutalised in every way possible, not really normal but does get some questions asked when she turns up for work covered in bruises.
She just loves being brutalised in every way possible, not really normal but does get some questions asked when she turns up for work covered in bruises.
10 March 2009, 02:27 PM
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it's quite simple, sorry if your mind doesn't comprehend.If the answer is no then there is an example for you.
If the answer is yes then well you may just be deluded.
10 March 2009, 02:34 PM
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I personally think there are loads of examples where hitting a woman is justified but each on its own merits.
In the U.S if a man or woman so much as lays a finger on the other person they are arrested. Not like in this country where as a woman you have to had a few beatings before the police will take it seriously!
In the U.S if a man or woman so much as lays a finger on the other person they are arrested. Not like in this country where as a woman you have to had a few beatings before the police will take it seriously!
10 March 2009, 02:39 PM
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Missy V seems incapable/unwilling to actually debate this subject - you may be wasting your time!
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[quote=sarasquares;8567242]I personally think there are loads of examples where hitting a woman is justified but each on its own merits.
In the U.S if a man or woman so much as lays a finger on the other person they are arrested. Not like in this country where as a woman you have to had a few beatings before the police will take it seriously![/quote]
Sorry Sara that is rubbish, take it from someone that knows, I was arrested and charged with assault, from dragging some little slapper off the bonnet of my car ( sitting on it and threatening to key it).
Absolutely laughable.
Classed as domestic violence as I was seeing her at the time.
100 hours community service and nearly sacked all because someone had the sulks on.
In the U.S if a man or woman so much as lays a finger on the other person they are arrested. Not like in this country where as a woman you have to had a few beatings before the police will take it seriously![/quote]
Sorry Sara that is rubbish, take it from someone that knows, I was arrested and charged with assault, from dragging some little slapper off the bonnet of my car ( sitting on it and threatening to key it).
Absolutely laughable.
Classed as domestic violence as I was seeing her at the time.
100 hours community service and nearly sacked all because someone had the sulks on.
10 March 2009, 02:46 PM
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There's a difference between getting physical i.e moving the woman out of the way and straight up hitting someone...so don't get it twisted...if someone was stepping to me and it was getting a bit heated and say for example my dad was there...yeah I would expect him to step in and either jump in between us or remove the person in question, i would never under any circumstances expect or want my Dad to punch a female in my defence...never
So call me deluded, at least I have morals
10 March 2009, 02:50 PM
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So what if a woman was fighting with one of your children you would go and hit her? A big old man like yourself...?
There's a difference between getting physical i.e moving the woman out of the way and straight up hitting someone...so don't get it twisted...if someone was stepping to me and it was getting a bit heated and say for example my dad was there...yeah I would expect him to step in and either jump in between us or remove the person in question, i would never under any circumstances expect or want my Dad to punch a female in my defence...never
So call me deluded, at least I have morals
There's a difference between getting physical i.e moving the woman out of the way and straight up hitting someone...so don't get it twisted...if someone was stepping to me and it was getting a bit heated and say for example my dad was there...yeah I would expect him to step in and either jump in between us or remove the person in question, i would never under any circumstances expect or want my Dad to punch a female in my defence...never
So call me deluded, at least I have morals
Bet you are one of these women who think they can do what they like because nobody would dare hit them. Now that gets on my nerves
10 March 2009, 02:53 PM
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Maybe things have changed from when i was younger. I remember my neighbour had an ex that kept hiding and waiting for her to leave the house. He would threaten, hit and abuse her. She never had any bruises and each time she called the police he would scarper, and no injunction could be issued. The police at the time said that their hands were tied unless he was caught in the act or had marked her.
In the end she was set on fire when she got into her car. He threw a Zippo lighter at her as she tried to drive off. She caught on fire while she was driving. Her burns were mostly to her legs but it was truely awful and could have been avoided if the police had had more powers or whatever it was that they needed He was eventually arrested about two years later and served about two years from what i can remember.
What is the policy these days for this sort of thing as it used to be that they couldnt get involved with domestic issues?
I personally think there are loads of examples where hitting a woman is justified but each on its own merits.
In the U.S if a man or woman so much as lays a finger on the other person they are arrested. Not like in this country where as a woman you have to had a few beatings before the police will take it seriously![/quote]
Sorry Sara that is rubbish, take it from someone that knows, I was arrested and charged with assault, from dragging some little slapper off the bonnet of my car ( sitting on it and threatening to key it).
Absolutely laughable.
Classed as domestic violence as I was seeing her at the time.
100 hours community service and nearly sacked all because someone had the sulks on.
In the U.S if a man or woman so much as lays a finger on the other person they are arrested. Not like in this country where as a woman you have to had a few beatings before the police will take it seriously![/quote]
Sorry Sara that is rubbish, take it from someone that knows, I was arrested and charged with assault, from dragging some little slapper off the bonnet of my car ( sitting on it and threatening to key it).
Absolutely laughable.
Classed as domestic violence as I was seeing her at the time.
100 hours community service and nearly sacked all because someone had the sulks on.
Maybe things have changed from when i was younger. I remember my neighbour had an ex that kept hiding and waiting for her to leave the house. He would threaten, hit and abuse her. She never had any bruises and each time she called the police he would scarper, and no injunction could be issued. The police at the time said that their hands were tied unless he was caught in the act or had marked her.
In the end she was set on fire when she got into her car. He threw a Zippo lighter at her as she tried to drive off. She caught on fire while she was driving. Her burns were mostly to her legs but it was truely awful and could have been avoided if the police had had more powers or whatever it was that they needed He was eventually arrested about two years later and served about two years from what i can remember.
What is the policy these days for this sort of thing as it used to be that they couldnt get involved with domestic issues?
10 March 2009, 02:55 PM
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So what if a woman was fighting with one of your children you would go and hit her? A big old man like yourself...?
There's a difference between getting physical i.e moving the woman out of the way and straight up hitting someone...so don't get it twisted...if someone was stepping to me and it was getting a bit heated and say for example my dad was there...yeah I would expect him to step in and either jump in between us or remove the person in question, i would never under any circumstances expect or want my Dad to punch a female in my defence...never
So call me deluded, at least I have morals
There's a difference between getting physical i.e moving the woman out of the way and straight up hitting someone...so don't get it twisted...if someone was stepping to me and it was getting a bit heated and say for example my dad was there...yeah I would expect him to step in and either jump in between us or remove the person in question, i would never under any circumstances expect or want my Dad to punch a female in my defence...never
So call me deluded, at least I have morals
yeah right.
10 March 2009, 02:55 PM
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Well to be fair Sara, if there were no evidence then what could the police do? I dont think the law has changed on that either. Otherwise women could shout whatever they want and men all over the country would be arrested on their word.
10 March 2009, 02:58 PM
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[quote=sarasquares;8567293]
Maybe things have changed from when i was younger. I remember my neighbour had an ex that kept hiding and waiting for her to leave the house. He would threaten, hit and abuse her. She never had any bruises and each time she called the police he would scarper, and no injunction could be issued. The police at the time said that their hands were tied unless he was caught in the act or had marked her.
In the end she was set on fire when she got into her car. He threw a Zippo lighter at her as she tried to drive off. She caught on fire while she was driving. Her burns were mostly to her legs but it was truely awful and could have been avoided if the police had had more powers or whatever it was that they needed He was eventually arrested about two years later and served about two years from what i can remember.
What is the policy these days for this sort of thing as it used to be that they couldnt get involved with domestic issues?
One simple phonecall from some spiteful little tramp, is enough to nearly destroy someones life.
Even if she then decides to change her mind, the Police will use the initial recorded call to prosecute you, with or without her.
By the way she changed her mind before the Police turned up and cuffed me
Maybe things have changed from when i was younger. I remember my neighbour had an ex that kept hiding and waiting for her to leave the house. He would threaten, hit and abuse her. She never had any bruises and each time she called the police he would scarper, and no injunction could be issued. The police at the time said that their hands were tied unless he was caught in the act or had marked her.
In the end she was set on fire when she got into her car. He threw a Zippo lighter at her as she tried to drive off. She caught on fire while she was driving. Her burns were mostly to her legs but it was truely awful and could have been avoided if the police had had more powers or whatever it was that they needed He was eventually arrested about two years later and served about two years from what i can remember.
What is the policy these days for this sort of thing as it used to be that they couldnt get involved with domestic issues?
One simple phonecall from some spiteful little tramp, is enough to nearly destroy someones life.
Even if she then decides to change her mind, the Police will use the initial recorded call to prosecute you, with or without her.
By the way she changed her mind before the Police turned up and cuffed me
10 March 2009, 03:01 PM
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One simple phonecall from some spiteful little tramp, is enough to nearly destroy someones life.
Even if she then decides to change her mind, the Police will use the initial recorded call to prosecute you, with or without her.
By the way she changed her mind before the Police turned up and cuffed me
Could that come back to haunt you as the details will be on record?
One simple phonecall from some spiteful little tramp, is enough to nearly destroy someones life.
Even if she then decides to change her mind, the Police will use the initial recorded call to prosecute you, with or without her.
By the way she changed her mind before the Police turned up and cuffed me
10 March 2009, 03:05 PM
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[quote=sarasquares;8567324]
Yes, I now have a record, and this is preventing me for applying for a job I want.
I also had to tell any new girlfriend about it, before she found out herself, that was a great way to break the ice.
But honestly the very worst thing is being labeled along with the real scum, who beat their wives regularly etc. Nobody 100% believes you either when you try to explain.
Yes, I now have a record, and this is preventing me for applying for a job I want.
I also had to tell any new girlfriend about it, before she found out herself, that was a great way to break the ice.
But honestly the very worst thing is being labeled along with the real scum, who beat their wives regularly etc. Nobody 100% believes you either when you try to explain.
10 March 2009, 03:12 PM
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Yes, I now have a record, and this is preventing me for applying for a job I want.
I also had to tell any new girlfriend about it, before she found out herself, that was a great way to break the ice.
But honestly the very worst thing is being labeled along with the real scum, who beat their wives regularly etc. Nobody 100% believes you either when you try to explain.
As no charges were brought that is very harsh
If you are good to your lady and make a great dad you will not have to explain it to anyone else. But as far as employment goes i suppose you would have to take a prospective employer to the side and tell them what happened, still unfair though
Yes, I now have a record, and this is preventing me for applying for a job I want.
I also had to tell any new girlfriend about it, before she found out herself, that was a great way to break the ice.
But honestly the very worst thing is being labeled along with the real scum, who beat their wives regularly etc. Nobody 100% believes you either when you try to explain.
As no charges were brought that is very harsh
If you are good to your lady and make a great dad you will not have to explain it to anyone else. But as far as employment goes i suppose you would have to take a prospective employer to the side and tell them what happened, still unfair though
10 March 2009, 03:19 PM
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[quote=sarasquares;8567344]
As no charges were brought that is very harsh
If you are good to your lady and make a great dad you will not have to explain it to anyone else. But as far as employment goes i suppose you would have to take a prospective employer to the side and tell them what happened, still unfair though
I was charged though, against the wishes of the witch, or so she says anyway.
100 hours community service, after several court appearances.
As no charges were brought that is very harsh
If you are good to your lady and make a great dad you will not have to explain it to anyone else. But as far as employment goes i suppose you would have to take a prospective employer to the side and tell them what happened, still unfair though
I was charged though, against the wishes of the witch, or so she says anyway.
100 hours community service, after several court appearances.
10 March 2009, 03:47 PM
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One simple phonecall from some spiteful little tramp, is enough to nearly destroy someones life.
Even if she then decides to change her mind, the Police will use the initial recorded call to prosecute you, with or without her.
By the way she changed her mind before the Police turned up and cuffed me
She is back with him for more drama.
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10 March 2009, 03:50 PM
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As I've already pointed out, every situation is different. There's a multiplicity of situations where hitting anyone, not just a woman, is justified, some of which have been highlighted in this thread. I'm not condoning violence towards women for trivial matters but in matters of self defence and such. As I've also already said, some people do not help themselves through some extreme forms of provocation, and I can understand why there is domestic violence, save mindless beatings. An understanding of why it happens is different from condoning violence, which I do not do.
Thanks. Got you now
It's a very emotive subject and very easy to pick people up the wrong way.
A very interesting read though, and very informative. Lots of differing opinions. Cookie, not nice for you.
10 March 2009, 03:55 PM
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A friend of mine is living with a woman who lives on one of said council estates and they are always taking chunks out of each other. TBH she is worse than him, she's been to court several times for violence - against men and women. I've seen the aftermath of their sessions; him with nail marks down his face and a split lip, her with bruises all over her arms and neck. It makes me sick to look at them, especially when two days later they're all over each other in the pub (in a nice way!).
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10 March 2009, 04:03 PM
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I grew up in a very violent home - where my father regularly gave my mum a good hiding.
I can remember as a child lying in bed listening to it all and believe me I would never, ever forgive anyone for raising their hand to me (I am female.) or letting a child listen to such violence (we won't EVER argue in front of our daughter.)
It still makes me feel sick now - at the age of 41.
That said I do believe there is a fine line between restraining or protecting yourself against someone who is being violent towards you. As has been said before, there are many, many people out there that antagonise and mentally abuse their partner (male or female) and I can see how easy it would be to lash out.
I do not condone violence in any way, however I truely believe each case is individual.
Sadly there are people out there that have been wrongly 'labelled' due to no fault of their own, and yet there are 'clever' batterers out there walking free.
I don't know what the answer is, but I am sure of one thing, it will never ever happen in our house........
I can remember as a child lying in bed listening to it all and believe me I would never, ever forgive anyone for raising their hand to me (I am female.) or letting a child listen to such violence (we won't EVER argue in front of our daughter.)
It still makes me feel sick now - at the age of 41.
That said I do believe there is a fine line between restraining or protecting yourself against someone who is being violent towards you. As has been said before, there are many, many people out there that antagonise and mentally abuse their partner (male or female) and I can see how easy it would be to lash out.
I do not condone violence in any way, however I truely believe each case is individual.
Sadly there are people out there that have been wrongly 'labelled' due to no fault of their own, and yet there are 'clever' batterers out there walking free.
I don't know what the answer is, but I am sure of one thing, it will never ever happen in our house........
10 March 2009, 04:12 PM
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A guy i know is married to a full on mental nutter from Greece. she is the type of scum you would want to hit. She had put him in hospital 4 times and ruined his life. She is evil and has been attacked many times in her area for upsetting everyone. She can start a fight looking in a mirror. last year she upset the wrong guy. he is a little bit naughty but would not touch a lady. So he "employed" 2 also mad Black hookers to 'slap " this bitch to pieces. JOB DONE !! she is now a changed woman in many ways .And deserves every single stitch.
10 March 2009, 11:27 PM
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A guy i know is married to a full on mental nutter from Greece. she is the type of scum you would want to hit. She had put him in hospital 4 times and ruined his life. She is evil and has been attacked many times in her area for upsetting everyone. She can start a fight looking in a mirror. last year she upset the wrong guy. he is a little bit naughty but would not touch a lady. So he "employed" 2 also mad Black hookers to 'slap " this bitch to pieces. JOB DONE !! she is now a changed woman in many ways .And deserves every single stitch.
Why couldn't he get shut of her? Is she a millionaire, or is he that ugly? 
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My friend only stayed with her until the kids got to 13 years old, then it had got so bad he had to leave. He is no saint , but what he took from her would make most men think of murder. She is Ugly ,,, he is fine with a nice GF and happy life.
Buy from what i am told ...the violence in Lesbian relationships can be unreal. some real screwed up women in that world.