Lee247

How???

Luan Pra bang

Violence within a relationship can often be a different kettle of fish and in some cases the violence is used as part of a massive power trip leaving people miserable and constantly afraid yet the physcological damage makes them too afraid to leave, in long term cases this can leave people thinking they deserve the beating that they get. This kind of domestic abuse is shocking and nothing other than prolonged torture and reminds me of the tactics used to subdue trafficked women. How ever no sane person would support this kind of violence and some kind of register would never stop this, there are groups already operating who help give women trapped in this spiral of vioence a way out and they should be given more money and support.

ScoobyWon't

I don't buy the bit about karate. I train with up to 5 women at my jujutsu class and I have no problem with them sparring against me, or with them consenting to sparring with me. But once outside of the class, I wouldn't dream of using any force against them.

Should they decide to use those skills on other people in public/private away from the class, I know it would only be in self defence.

Other people, especially when under the influence of various substances, are just unpredictable.

I see it as unacceptable for any type of violence against a partner, opposite sex or the same sex (neither should matter). In fact, I can't recall ever see anything about homosexual partner-beating being reported in the media, but you can be sure it happens.

Personally, I think that society needs to make it clear that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable, but at the same time be careful not to drive the problem underground by attaching a huge social stigma to it in the way in which we have seen mobs gather outside the houses of suspected peadophiles.

GC8

You dont need to keep your guard up as much.....

StickyMicky

Hitting a "Woman" IMO = no need for it

but......
if they insist on acting like a "man", then its fair game, and more and more of them insist on trying to be a "man"

i once had a mates wife tell me that she would like to fight me as i was the biggest lad out of the group and i would put up a better struggle
this person worked the doors up in Glasgow

now excuse me if its considered wrong and all the rest of the tripe going around at the moment, but if it had of ever kicked off, i would not be trying to "restrain" her, i would be wind-milling her to ****, and for what its worth, i suspect i may have been the one coming off worse

one of my other mates got with this slighter older bird, she was from a rough town (unfortunately the same ghetto i grew up in lmao)
his missus started getting more and more aggressive while the relationship was going on, over about 6 years in total, i have seen her swinging for his head with a pan before my mate kept resisting the urge to spark the bitch out, and she would taunt him with stuff like "yeah go on, big man, hit a ****en woman, you will never see your kid again" etc etc while swinging for him with various kitchen appliances, she IMO is acting like a man, and you can probably guess how much use the police where at the time as well!

gpssti4

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I think that in general you'll find that it comes down to the class that we are in.

If you look at the 'upper' classes it's very uncommon for a man to hit a woman, but go round to the local chav scum council estate and it's almost second nature. A friend of mine is living with a woman who lives on one of said council estates and they are always taking chunks out of each other. TBH she is worse than him, she's been to court several times for violence - against men and women. I've seen the aftermath of their sessions; him with nail marks down his face and a split lip, her with bruises all over her arms and neck. It makes me sick to look at them, especially when two days later they're all over each other in the pub (in a nice way!).

I've had a couple of girls have a go at me and I was amazed at how easy it was to restrain them; not hitting them, just holding onto their arms and pinning them down until things had calmed down. Usually, we would end up in the bedroom - a far better outcome than a night in cells for hitting a woman.

I've only 'hit' a girl once - I was about 12 and she 11. She was hitting me and I said to her "those have been free, anymore and you'll get one back" and she did. It wasn't really a punch, more of a small poke with my fist - square in the face, it wasn't hard, just made her think of her actions. She soon stopped and ran crying to her mum! I got sh*t for it - hitting a girl, bit she deserved it. It didn't even make her nose bleed, but it did frighten her.

So, my opinion is that it's okay to use moderate force to 'deal' with situations, but never for a man to use his strength excessively. If some crazy pi**ed up bint wants to have a go in the pub then just walk away. People will respect you far more for it than for 'flooring' the cow.

Occasionally though, just occasionally, there are times when she may need reminding of who's the boss

LG John

Were your rocking your head from side to side and hummming, "mmmmmmm-huuuuuuu" as you typed that?

Go, girl power

I vote squares be banned for starting this thread. I was always going to cause arguments and probably lead to bans/infraction/whatever.

cster

Am I to assume from the wording of the OP that it is OK to hit men?

Lee247

No I was not and stop twisting my words

Some of the comments on this thread have been very informative and well worth reading.

No one is ever going to agree, but it has made for a very interesting debate

jaytc2003

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My view is that you shouldnt use violence on anyone unless absoultely neccessary as a last resort. Saying that if a woman attacked me and I could not restrain her, then I would hit her back. They want equal rights so I would have no qualms about it based on the above.

The Zohan

Look at society, kids can and do settle arguments or even looking at someone wrongly with knives and guns in some cases and this is on the increase and yes there are people influenced by TV and media, it also desensitises people to violence and violent acts. I heard a informative talk by the ex head of the FBI (retired) on just this subject.

Also some cultures religions place women as second class citizens with no more rights than some animals which does not help very much.

Some people will use any excuse for violence and should not be let loose in society anyway.

Gang culture including girl only gangs are becoming more prevalent in the UK and violence will increase due to this along with initiation ceremonies that will involve violence and possibly rape and or sexual attacks. Sad but true

TopBanana

My thoughts? I'm all in favour of it. Ding ding seconds out.

davegtt

As Colin Farrell said in In Bruge "I don't hit women. I would never hit a woman. I'd hit a woman who was trying to hit me with a bottle. That's different. That's self-defense, isn't it? Or a woman who could do karate. I would never hit a woman generally.

True though, Women are evil nasty creatures, Ive been on the breaking point before, hit a brickwall a few times to get it out of my system... Mental abuse can be worse than physical abuse too you have to remember, and thats something women are masters off.

DJ_Jon

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So very true... the weaker sex they may be physically, but mentally they are the stronger sex, many times over. Women are extremly good at winding men up, they know exactly the right buttons to press & if a chap does hit a woman then they are the victim Now, I still think hitting a woman, or anyne for that matter is wrong, but it isn't always as clear cut as it appears.

SJ_Skyline

Anybody that abuses their partner is a scumbag, the sex of the protagonist is irrelevant. I believe self-defence on the other hand is perfectly acceptable which as the law states, can also be pre-emptive.

Leslie

Unfortunately I think you are right SS, too many growing up with no thought of civilised behaviour or thought for anyone else except their own selfish selves. They think that they have a right to take what they want from anyone and heaven help you if you try to stop them. As you say, the next generation can only get worse unless there is a miracle and we find a strong leader who can change general thinking for the better.

I think hitting a woman by a man is a shameful act and only a low life piece of dog sh.. would do it.

Les

MJW

I think that's a misnomer, its nothing to do with your financial background, more likely your emotional background. There's just as many upper / middle class violent relationships. Also violence breeds violence, so if your parents were in an abusive relationship the chances of history repeating are greater.
Personally I don't think there's any excuse for hitting a woman no matter what the provocation. I lived with a girl who liked to take a swing at me from time to time (and also throw various kitchen items, glasses, etc at me) but I would never have dreamed of hitting her, I just got out of the relationship

sarasquares

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That comment almost made me laugh lol. I am one of 4 sisters, I, being the eldest so i know what you went through .

It is sickening when you see the fall out at pub closing time. The women outnumber the men for fighting but i bet these same women would run straight to the police if they got it back.

Women beating men in domestic violence is shocking, more so that the man does not tell anyone, not even friends in case he is ridiculed by them.
Women tend to share their experiences with a few close friends but still don't take good advise whereas the men suffer in silence because of the stigma attached. That is very sad. There are places for women to go to get help but it you are a man what is there...?

I have never been beaten by a bloke but i have been hit and i did hit back. I would never carry on a relationship if he was violent and sometimes have to wonder why women stay with their men when they dont have to....love?

GC8WRX

There is a vile, horrible, disgusting so called woman near me who i went to school with, she is 29, wears a yellow berghaus jacket, tracksuits and black nike shocks with the socks tucked into the trackies, she wears a cap and no makeup, in short she looks like a chav bloke.

She isnt a small woman, and can look after herself.

Last year in a local pub, she decided she had a problem with my missus (jealousy is a sign of weakness) and tried to glass her, i stood in the way and she went for me with a half full stella glass, if the bouncers hadnt been keeping an eye on her, and come over rapidly to control her, i would have had no choice but to smack her, or i would have been glassed.

Why shouldnt a piece of **** who acts like that get twatted, she deserves it?

Similarly, there is a notorious group of 14, 15 and 16 year old girls who hang around the takeaways (all asian owned, do they like young girls cos they allways give them free food) in town at weekend and cause no end of problems.

On the same night they (about 8 of the rockport wearing wannabe blokes) beat up my mates missus cos she wouldnt give them 2 cigs ( she got a bad black eye and a cut lip), then later on, much to my mates embarrassement, they tried to mug him, 3 of them even went as far as hitting him in the face, at this point he lost it, and they all ran for their lives.

The only way little ****s like this will learn is if they get a good kicking, if you are brought up with violence, you respect it (so to speak).

Whilst im against hitting feminine women, the size 14 blokey ones (who can usually hit pretty hard) that act like men and go round kicking off at everyone cos they dont like being fat and minging, are fair game if they over step the mark (and i mean massively overstep the mark, like pull a knife or a glass, not slap a bloke around the face).

There seems to be alot of these women round here, and half the time you cant tell they are women till they open their mounths.

As for a bloke beating up on his wife cos he has, for example, alcohol issues, is so out of order its untrue, and if i ever saw such a thing, i would go mental and kick the **** out of the bloke concerned.

Basically, act like a woman and get treated like one, if you act like a bloke, dont come crying when it all goes wrong!

Just my opinion!

pimmo2000

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I don't think I can add anything that hasn't already been said.

The thing that annoys me is the men who say never hit a women no matter what .. now as I understand it women are equals.. and being an equal means if you hit me (for no good reason) your accepting that I will hit you back.

I don't like violence and if someone male or female were to slap or punch me once I think I would probably walk away .. but if either cornered me I don't care if they're male or female I'm going to hit them as hard and as many times as I can to stop them hitting me. I know quite a few blokes who would do the same but if they saw a bloke doing this to another bird, would step in and have a go at the bloke.

On another note, why have I never seen a lady Bin person ?

sarasquares

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What is a Lady BIn Person?


any relation to heavy Bin Laden?

pimmo2000

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that too .. no lady terrorist's .. is the 21st century come on girlie's .. blow something up ... or off

SJ_Skyline

Sadly there are. Chechens and Tamils use female suicide bombers, there are probably other groups as well.

pimmo2000

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oh .. ok then Bin Ladies?

sarasquares

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cookstar

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scoobynutta555

As I've already pointed out, every situation is different. There's a multiplicity of situations where hitting anyone, not just a woman, is justified, some of which have been highlighted in this thread. I'm not condoning violence towards women for trivial matters but in matters of self defence and such. As I've also already said, some people do not help themselves through some extreme forms of provocation, and I can understand why there is domestic violence, save mindless beatings. An understanding of why it happens is different from condoning violence, which I do not do.

jacrobat

Isn't Colonel Gadaffi's Presidential bodyguard all female?

The Zohan

No, they look and act like a bunch of girls and show them a picture of a US Marine and the run about screaming like schoolgirls

Females have made tough fighters for centuries and can often be as bad if not worse than men.

MissyV

I must be deluded then in answer to your Q...no i don't, just because a woman may be vicious that doesn't mean it's ok to bang her out does it...or don't you get that it's quite simple, sorry if your mind doesn't comprehend.