mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

Simon, a question should I decide to enter, what category would my car fall into?

Version 1 WRX - 330bhp/289lb/ft @ 1bar boost

Engine

Standard 16g turbo
Standard 380cc injectors
Standard internals
Standard ECU - Well a Z4 but no re-mapping inside
Induction kit
FMIC
Nur Spec-R + Revolution downpipe

Suspension + Brakes

Tein lowering springs
24mm rear ARB
Front and rear droplinks
Cusco underbrace and STI 10 rear diffuser
Standard F+R brakes - 2 pot front 1 pot rears

Curious.

Setting regulations for classification will be really difficult. Where do you draw the line? I don't envy you trying to decide on them.

whitescoob95

is this event open to spectators? cant find nethin re this...id like to enter but dont race so id be shhhhhhhhhhhhh**te lol

garetgax

iTrader: (3)

can anyone let me know what it will cost me for all 5 rounds in terms of entry fees etc? Also whats the format for the day in terms of number of runs and practice etc? If it aint too much I might be up for this not sure Ill do v well but its the taking part right:P?

Oh and id deffo be in the modified class but the interior is still intact.

gussy

iTrader: (2)

Micky Iv already dropped a mail to simon trying to get some clarification on standard and modified but have had no answer back as yet.If the price is right I will do the lot and dates are confirmed so I can get cover for the time off work the clocks ticking

stigaz

a bit off topic. micky nice wrx, what is a version 1 wrx standard bhp, i didnt realise you could get that big a gain with an induction kit, exhaust, fmic, what is the z4 ecu?

again nice wrx

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

Cheers,

Standard power is 240 IIRC. My car should have pobably let go ages ago, so I wouldnt advise following my route.

Z4 ecu is out of a 95 sti IIRC

172sport

iTrader: (6)

std in a 95 wrx too, just check the code as there were 2 versions that year 220ps and a 260ps (z4 ecu)

ScoobySport.co.uk

Hi stigaz. Thanks a lot for this. This would be awesome, but sadly it would be impractical to try to police, as there's no way to tell if the internals are standard or not. The turbo isn't always obvious (although much easier obviously), fuel additives is impossible.

PPP would be considered modified.

Originally, we were just planning to have a Pro class and a Privateer class. The standard class has been introduced just so that people who have basically standard cars can come along and enjoy the competition as well. It would, of course, be ideal if we could class out the middle bracket a bit better. But I don't know whether it will be possible.

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mickywrx

You'd fall into the modified class, as long as you have a full interior and don't run full slicks.

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Yes, all five events are open to spectators. Full details will be released shortly. Don't be a whimp though!! Get your Scoob on the handling course.. you'll love it.

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The prices very cheap, and are looking at about 100 quid championship entry, and 50 quid an event. This is especially cheap when you look at the amount of miles you get.

You get theoretically unlimited runs (obviously the more people competiting, the less runs you'll get - but with ScoobyLive, and about 80 - 90 people competiting, there's easily enough time to do 10 - 15 runs, comfortably - should you really want to do that many), but only the first 5 (after your initial sighting run) count towards the results. The rest is all free testing.

When you compare this things like UK sprint events, where you'll end up pay at least as much, but usually much more, and get 2 runs, totalling abotu 4 miles.

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Hi mate, sorry I saw your email, and have long list to reply to, but have been working so hard to get everythign finalised. I'm hoping these answers have clarified, but I'll answer your email anyway.

garetgax

iTrader: (3)

Nice one I think ive prob got the green light from the mrs. Do you reckon I'll suffer much tyre wear from say 8-10 runs an event? I use yoko's at the mo. Not sure if would be worth me investing in aa second hand set of 17"'s and put 888's on em purelt for sprint/track work. Final 2 questions when do i need to pay the registration and if the mrs turns up for a few events would she be able to have a some runs if whe pays the 50 on the day so to speak. Not the end of the world if she cant but it is her car .

JimmyBFC

Is the classes similar to that of the MLR Evo sprint series?

Class 1; standard
class 2; mapped, 2ltr, stock turbo from any evo 1-10
class 3; aftermarket tubby, mapped 2ltr
class 4; stroker/over 2ltr..

This doesn't look well planned, driving coned circuits is hard, and if their are novices there etc etc....plus not much variation especially for those who live up Scotland or maybe down south.

The MLR series is run near to perfect, set amount of practice runs, set amount of timed runs, all classes more or less equal.

JMO, its one thing that would get me back over into a scoob tbh, this type of event should have been done years ago for a forum this big.

ScoobySport.co.uk

garetgax.. nice work!

In terms of tyres.. If you're pushing very hard, you can do quite a bit of tyre wear over a couple of events - some courses will be harder on tyres than others. The absolute utopia is to have a spare set of track wheels. That's what a lot of people do, but its really not 100% necessary.

On that subject, we're negotiating currently to arrange a tyre fitting service on site. So this might make things easier anyway.

Regarding the Mrs driving. That's no problem, although as you suggest, she will count as a totally new entry, and so you'll just need to pay the event entry fee for her - although she won't score championship points.

See you there

ScoobySport.co.uk

JimmyBFC

Again, this would be awesome. But how do we check these things?

JimmyBFC

You've just got to rely on the honesty of the members haven't you bud, I know what you mean, anyone who enters something that is different to what they say it is, is an ar$e and is only robbing themselves IMO.

It does seem to work for the Evo's, would like to see it work well over here too

ScoobySport.co.uk

OK, this has convinced me.

A really important thing is going to be to allow the registered championship competitors to register their own sub-classes, and we'll award the points.

This will not happen immediately as there so much to get finished, but it will be a really valuable addition. Thanks guys!

RA Dunk

so with these classes

Class 1; standard
class 2; mapped, 2ltr, stock turbo from any evo 1-10
class 3; aftermarket tubby, mapped 2ltr
class 4; stroker/over 2ltr..

that might be ok for the EVO guys as only the most hardcore of them have gone for stroker kits etc, look at how many people with imprezas have gone for a standard 2.5 upgrade but just put out a little bit more power than they would with a 2.0L, this rule would put them in beside some serious cars with say 500 or so horses

also how do you tell the difference between a totally standard car and a another standard car that has been mapped?

JimmyBFC

You shouldn't have to tell mate, they should enter into the classes their vehicles match and let honesty be the best policy, anyone in standard class with 400hp is gonna stick out like b0llox on a bulldog and will soon get found out....im sure most will adhere to the rules and be honest, there's no other way unless cars are scrutinised.

I suppose turbo's can be looked at, but same as with an Evo, it could have forged internals and only the boost is gonna give it away what its running.

Tyres can make a hell of a difference, some running dunny's or semi-slicks can get amazing times with lell hp. Suspension setup too.

ScoobySport.co.uk

I reckon its going to be fine to be honest.

The best thing is to get involved and see how it goes. At the very least, you're going to have some seriously good fun competition... and we can add classes as we go if we all feel its necessary.

I'm still open to ideas, but I think for now, we should just run with it. The tyres and suspension are going to make the biggest difference on most of the courses, especially Monte Carlo, and Corsica layouts.

PS. The main thing that will make the difference will be the driver

JimmyBFC

agreed bud, its nice to see someone's finally gone about doing this

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

Excuse me if I'm reading this wrong, but, is it £100 just to enter and then potentially another £250 on top if doing all 5 rounds?

JimmyBFC

Thats not bad going mate, we pay between £100-125 per sprint on the MLR plus petrol, insurance for day etc....all adds up, but worth it!

RA Dunk

so its going to cost 150 for members who can only manage one event?

JimmyBFC

I suppose it sorts out the people who are serious from the messers.

danny78

Hi, do you think that you could split it by doing

class 1: -11.5 sec 1/4 mile class
class 2: -12.5 sec 1/4 mile class
class 3: -13.5 sec 1/4 mile class
class 4: -14.5 sec 1/4 mile class

but i suppose people could run low boost on the 1/4 mile and full boost on handling. Its a hard one to split in to catogries but it still looks like it'll be fun

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

Drag racing is only at the Scooby Shootout mate, part of the last event.

ScoobySport.co.uk

RA Dunk

No mate. If you only want to do one event, it will cost about £65 (and probably about £75 for ScoobyLive) - but you won't score championship points.

If you want to take part in the actual championship, then £100 goes towards running the actual championship (this will become more clear when we get going), and you then get £15 off each event - and £25 off ScoobyLive / Scooby Shootout.

gussy

iTrader: (2)

Dunk putting it into classes like that sounds ok and hopefully simon can sort it as for the big power lads have a look at what they propose for the handling circuits tight twisty etc it will come down to the driver and handling set up of the car its no good having big power if the turbo takes time to spool up in the twisties it will suit the lads with lesser power some of the big powered cars might get a suprise wake up call

P555SBR

iTrader: (1)

the tight and twisty tracks will be right up my street sounds like it will be a good laugh dont care how well i do just more intrested in putting all that money i spent on the car to some good use as people keep saying its down to how truthfull they all are about what mods they have

JimmyBFC

RA Dunk

well the trouble with me is i work offshore on a Ad-Hoc basis (i go away at short notice) so dont know how many events i can make it down too, i would be intrested in doing as many as i could but how many that is i dont know

RA Dunk

yup this is where it gets all too technical, hence why i thought the original idea was probably best, no matter how it`s done somebody will feel hard done by

for the average joe blog with an average level of tune like myself i`ll be happy enough just to participate