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Old 21 January 2010, 08:25 PM
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Old 21 January 2010, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Mortgage lending was "surprisingly strong" in December, but the figures came as one building society announced a sharp rise in rates.

The Council of Mortgage Lenders (CML) said UK mortgage lending increased by 14% in December compared with November, to £13.7bn.

Looks like the market isn't slowing at all .... in fact, it's pretty much back to normal - everything is slotting into place nicely and quickly.

BBC News - Mortgage lending up and Skipton raises rates
It depends on how you read the spin.

Mortgage lending fell 43% last year - Building
Old 21 January 2010, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
BY next year we won't of even noticed we had a recession
Depends who is running the economy .... if it's the Eton Boys then all bets are off as to what kind of mess we will be in!!

I'm sure Labour are hoping that the good news keeps rolling in .....
Old 22 January 2010, 01:19 PM
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Is it fair to say that you missed your chance Pete?

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Old 22 January 2010, 01:37 PM
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Well, Les - maybe .....

All I can hope is that, by some amazing chance, the Eton Boys get voted into power - then we shall see the economy destroyed with high inflation and Interest rates and property prices dropping faster than a ****** knickers come pay day!
Old 22 January 2010, 02:31 PM
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Now we know how you are going to vote then!

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Old 22 January 2010, 02:34 PM
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Mind numbingly boring
Old 22 January 2010, 07:08 PM
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Further evidence of the recovery in the UK housing market has come from figures showing completed residential property sales hit a two-year high in December.

Provisional figures from HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) show 104,000 deals involving properties priced above £40,000 were completed in December.

It was the first time since December 2007 that the number has risen above the 100,000 level.

BOOOOOO!!!!!!
Old 22 January 2010, 08:45 PM
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Rush to buy before the stamp duty holiday ended. Interesting to see the Jan figures.

I know that the market is driven by supply and demand but the simple fact remains that most houses are too expensive for too many people (Scoobynet - richer than yaew member excepted of course ). I can't see a price rise this year and wouldn't be surprised if they fell.

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Old 22 January 2010, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Further evidence of the recovery in the UK housing market has come from figures showing completed residential property sales hit a two-year high in December.

Provisional figures from HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) show 104,000 deals involving properties priced above £40,000 were completed in December.

It was the first time since December 2007 that the number has risen above the 100,000 level.

BOOOOOO!!!!!!
And Dec 2007 was a low point. So a slight increase on a low point.

You do spin this crap badly, Pete.
Old 22 January 2010, 11:02 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thats not strictly true......

Pete just believes what he is told too..
Old 22 January 2010, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
And Dec 2007 was a low point. So a slight increase on a low point.

You do spin this crap badly, Pete.
I think you will find that April 2009 was the low point!!

December 2007 was still witnessing a ballooning market .....

You do talk rubbish sometimes!
Old 23 January 2010, 12:34 AM
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Feb 09 was the low.

Aug 07 was when the truth started to hurt and the collapse began. Mortgage lending was down 43% from 08 - 09. Cash buyers on a tiny scale have merely massaged the figures to falsify the upward trend. There are no FTBs; they are the housing market.

Your grasp on the market situation seems to come from the Daily Star or The Sun. Go for it - sink your money in housing

This is another mini boom, fed by printing money and keeping the rates low at the cost to us all, in the thinking we're all thick enough to vote for this shower again. QE is merely helping to erode the wealth of us all that are in a position to save.

This lot have stole the savings and taxes of the hard working to pay the feckless. I'm just glad my cash is stashed out of the UK as I would have been thieved of about £40000+ had I have left it in a UK bank, at today's reckoning.

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Old 23 January 2010, 12:43 AM
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Stole the savings?

I have substantial savings - they were there when I looked earlier today ......
Old 23 January 2010, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Stole the savings?

I have substantial savings - they were there when I looked earlier today ......
Good.

Mine are still there too. But they're paying miles more than the garbage the UK banks offer due to better government management of their banking systems.
Old 25 January 2010, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Good.

Mine are still there too. But they're paying miles more than the garbage the UK banks offer due to better government management of their banking systems.
You may have to keep it out of the country for years to come ,as it has been stated today ,that interest rates may have to stay below 1% for the next five years .!!!!!!
Old 25 January 2010, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by njkmrs
You may have to keep it out of the country for years to come ,as it has been stated today ,that interest rates may have to stay below 1% for the next five years .!!!!!!
Who stated that?

That would mean the banks have made the wrong call (which they do), as they are offering 4% return on 2 year fixed bonds. To me that means they are betting on a rate rise over the next year to 18 months.
Old 25 January 2010, 06:05 PM
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Interesting...

More than half of people expect house prices to rise - Telegraph

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Old 25 January 2010, 06:17 PM
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Aldershot. A dead town. A town that has been regenerated more times than Doctor Who, and still has more £1 shops and fast food outlets than any other I can think of. A town full of chav kids, pregnant teenagers and drunks. With the odd junkie thrown in for good measure.

Less than 1/2 mile from this war zone, with no parking, and a tiny garden, you too could spend over £300,000 on a 5 bedroom house.

5 bedroom terraced house for sale in Aldershot, GU11

And people say houses aren't overpriced.
Old 25 January 2010, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Who stated that?

That would mean the banks have made the wrong call (which they do), as they are offering 4% return on 2 year fixed bonds. To me that means they are betting on a rate rise over the next year to 18 months.
Roger Bootle a top Economist .
Old 25 January 2010, 07:03 PM
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We looked at a house on Saturday. It went on sale on Friday. On Monday it was sold!!

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Old 25 January 2010, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve vRS
A quick Google reveals plenty of evidence to the contrary. Result? No-one knows and to post one random quote from a " top economist " means nothing.

IMHO.

House prices to fall again in first half of 2010 - Business News, Business - The Independent

UK House Prices 2010 | Economics Blog

House prices will probably fall in 2010 - lovemoney.com - Blog

http://property.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6952075.ece
Old 25 January 2010, 07:21 PM
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To be honest, I want a drop and a survey by Rightmove, taken by people who are trying to sell their houses is not a representative sample!

Steve
Old 30 January 2010, 08:58 PM
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And still, the prices march ever upwards - I'm staggered to be honest with you ... what's driving it?

BBC News - House prices could rise by 10% a year, Nationwide says

Cash buyers? Shortage? Bank of Mum and Dad?
Old 30 January 2010, 09:11 PM
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Madness?
Old 30 January 2010, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
And still, the prices march ever upwards - I'm staggered to be honest with you ... what's driving it?

BBC News - House prices could rise by 10% a year, Nationwide says

Cash buyers? Shortage? Bank of Mum and Dad?

The fact that there is a major house shortage in the UK and no matter if you make £1m a year or you claim income support the one thing you need more than anything is a place to live
Old 30 January 2010, 10:06 PM
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Hopefully my gamble will pay off by the looks of things.

Let them climb.
Old 31 January 2010, 09:36 AM
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And climb, and climb, and climb !!!!!!!!


Whilst maintaining Interest Rates below 1 % ........!!!!!
Old 31 January 2010, 10:45 AM
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The economy is in a mess and house prices are rising on low volumes fed by cheap money, but no real growth in incomes. The probability of rising IR is much higher than falling IR. House prices look more vulnerable than ever in real terms, in nominal terms they could hold on for a while longer with an ever increasing risk of ruining the rest of the economy for years.
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Spot on John. But still desperate buyers and BTL muppets can't see it.


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