House Prices Now At 2004 Levels
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A few more indicators ....
BBC NEWS | Business | UK jobless total hits 2.2 million
BBC NEWS | Business | UK manufacturing continues fall
BBC NEWS | Business | L&G set to cut a further 560 jobs
BBC NEWS | Business | US trade deficit widens in March
BBC NEWS | Business | Japan 'would avoid dollar bonds'
BBC NEWS | Business | Hitachi posts record annual loss
BBC NEWS | Business | Airbus prepares for fewer orders
BBC NEWS | Business | Companies | Profits decline at Magners maker
BBC NEWS | Business | Downturn pushes Nissan into loss
BBC NEWS | Business | Sharp fall in exports from China
BBC NEWS | Business | Petrobras hit by lower oil price
BBC NEWS | Business | Latvian economy in rapid decline
and it'll be over by when??
Dave
PS: that's just a few from the Beeb ....
Most of the 'experts' think there is still a long way to fall in prices ..... any improvement is from a very low level, to a slighlty less low level.
The demand is not enough to drive prices up - there are still too many sellers not being realistic, buyers are registering an interest but are waiting for the price falls.
The demand is not enough to drive prices up - there are still too many sellers not being realistic, buyers are registering an interest but are waiting for the price falls.
Foxtons NHG been on the phone today
said they have had the busiest week ever, and would we consider putting our property on the market again --- for more than it was on in Oct last year
meanwhile in leafy Cambs we have taken our other property off the market
said they have had the busiest week ever, and would we consider putting our property on the market again --- for more than it was on in Oct last year
meanwhile in leafy Cambs we have taken our other property off the market
They are after property for their books .... they will say anything to gain those properties.
An Estate Agent without property for sale is dead in the water .... so, they tell you that the value is up, this gets you on the treadmill with them .... 3 weeks later they advice that you drop the price.
An Estate Agent without property for sale is dead in the water .... so, they tell you that the value is up, this gets you on the treadmill with them .... 3 weeks later they advice that you drop the price.
Ha Ha Ha .... up 29% .... 29% of nothing is still nothing! 
I have been contacted today about a couple of properties sold last week which have fallen through ........................ valuations are coming in massively under the agreed price.

I have been contacted today about a couple of properties sold last week which have fallen through ........................ valuations are coming in massively under the agreed price.
Lending is still way down on this time last year when prices were still plummetting.
More sales will mean prices will drop further as supply is outstripping demand massively. 1000000 properties currently on rightmove with 30000 or so selling.
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Thought I'd edge this thread towards 1000 postings ..... more data that shows any house price 'recovery' people were thinking was happening probably wasn't .....
Gross Mortgage Lending Falls 9 Percent In April Council Of Mortgage Lenders Figures Show | Business | Sky News
Still gonna hang on before I buy again ...
Dave
Gross Mortgage Lending Falls 9 Percent In April Council Of Mortgage Lenders Figures Show | Business | Sky News
Still gonna hang on before I buy again ...
Dave
Very wise IMHO. i still think we're not out of the woods yet, and prices will still drop another 10 - 20%.
Lots of talk earlier this week about higher interest rates in the next 18 - 24 months. That won't help prices recover.
Lots of talk earlier this week about higher interest rates in the next 18 - 24 months. That won't help prices recover.
Prices rise AGAIN 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8073157.stm
Dec 2008 = £153,048
May 2009 = £154,016
So 5 months into the year and prices are up
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/May_2009.pdf
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/Dec_2008.pdf
Those of you thinking there is a long way yet to drop are in the land of wishful thinking i would say.
From peak in Oct 2007, Nationwide index are only reporting a 17.2% drop in house prices. Hardly anywhere near the 40-50% some of you are hoping for. Dont miss the boat people

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8073157.stm
Dec 2008 = £153,048
May 2009 = £154,016
So 5 months into the year and prices are up
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/May_2009.pdf
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/Dec_2008.pdf
Those of you thinking there is a long way yet to drop are in the land of wishful thinking i would say.
From peak in Oct 2007, Nationwide index are only reporting a 17.2% drop in house prices. Hardly anywhere near the 40-50% some of you are hoping for. Dont miss the boat people
Last edited by Mitchy260; May 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM.
Jesus.... For NJKMRS
Does it not occur that perhaps a sizable chunk of the 29% increase in lending was simply re-mortgages???
Just because LENDING rose, certainly doesnt mean they gave more MORTGAGES out.
We are no where near seeing prices increase and your crazy to think otherwise.
Dip yer Bread? My ****, certainly speaking from my neck of the woods, and what I have seen in other area's.
Does it not occur that perhaps a sizable chunk of the 29% increase in lending was simply re-mortgages???
Just because LENDING rose, certainly doesnt mean they gave more MORTGAGES out.
We are no where near seeing prices increase and your crazy to think otherwise.
Dip yer Bread? My ****, certainly speaking from my neck of the woods, and what I have seen in other area's.
Les
traditionally the strongest time of year for house sales though?
been looking around at prices for 1 bed places where we used to live as an indicator and they are still a lot stronger than i was hoping - peaked at 125-130 but still asking for 110-115.
using these as an indicator as remember selling our first 1 bed house about 11-12 years ago for £40k thinking it would never be worth more than that!
even if they drop to 80k it would still seem too much - but surely this is where they are likely to end up as average salary x 3 + small deposit would make them affordable to single first time buyers?
on the other hand oil is creeping back up which seems to point to economic recovery being forecast....
Jesus.... For NJKMRS
Does it not occur that perhaps a sizable chunk of the 29% increase in lending was simply re-mortgages???
Just because LENDING rose, certainly doesnt mean they gave more MORTGAGES out.
We are no where near seeing prices increase and your crazy to think otherwise.
Dip yer Bread? My ****, certainly speaking from my neck of the woods, and what I have seen in other area's.
Does it not occur that perhaps a sizable chunk of the 29% increase in lending was simply re-mortgages???
Just because LENDING rose, certainly doesnt mean they gave more MORTGAGES out.
We are no where near seeing prices increase and your crazy to think otherwise.
Dip yer Bread? My ****, certainly speaking from my neck of the woods, and what I have seen in other area's.
All the signs are there .
People are starting to buy ,people are getting Mortgages ,the sun is out ,the Gloom is lifting .
Get on board Son .
All in the Mind .Think positive .We coming out of it .
Swing us another Becks in whilst your at it .!!!!!!!!!!!
The real test for House Prices will be when the Interest rate increases .... wages are on a downward trend and House Prices 'must' follow - which is why I don't understand what is happening now as places are selling and sellers are firming up on thier prices.
Prices rise AGAIN 
BBC NEWS | Business | Rise reported in UK house prices
Dec 2008 = £153,048
May 2009 = £154,016
So 5 months into the year and prices are up
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/May_2009.pdf
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/Dec_2008.pdf
Those of you thinking there is a long way yet to drop are in the land of wishful thinking i would say.
From peak in Oct 2007, Nationwide index are only reporting a 17.2% drop in house prices. Hardly anywhere near the 40-50% some of you are hoping for. Dont miss the boat people

BBC NEWS | Business | Rise reported in UK house prices
Dec 2008 = £153,048
May 2009 = £154,016
So 5 months into the year and prices are up
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/May_2009.pdf
http://www.nationwide.co.uk/hpi/historical/Dec_2008.pdf
Those of you thinking there is a long way yet to drop are in the land of wishful thinking i would say.
From peak in Oct 2007, Nationwide index are only reporting a 17.2% drop in house prices. Hardly anywhere near the 40-50% some of you are hoping for. Dont miss the boat people

The boat is still waiting to sink.
This is the classic dead cat bounce as per the last price crash. All the factors are in place for further drops. Banks aren't lending, more unemplyment and more people defaulting and losing their house.
A minor blip. Buy now and lose your deposit within a year.
Why do people actually want high prices? Other than investors it is plain stupid to want pay more for something than necessary. Your next step on the ladder is just more expensive in turn.
Last edited by fatherpierre; May 30, 2009 at 12:06 AM.
I'm as chilled as they come, but when I hear people advising others to wade in to the market in its current state, and that advice is wrong, I cant not call it.
That isnt to say there are not bargains to be had at the moment if you know where to look and, crucially, are prepared to take on a property needing lots of work. Some of the prices we have sold property at recently is absolutely staggering, in some cases almost 50% from peak 18 months ago. That is of course a good buy.
I'm an Estate Agent and have been selling property all over the world for the past 9 years, so I know what I'm talking about. Not an expert, but I know enough to confidently say, that I would happily show my **** in Blackpool High Street if we see 3-4-5 months consecutive increase in average prices this year.
That isnt to say there are not bargains to be had at the moment if you know where to look and, crucially, are prepared to take on a property needing lots of work. Some of the prices we have sold property at recently is absolutely staggering, in some cases almost 50% from peak 18 months ago. That is of course a good buy.
I'm an Estate Agent and have been selling property all over the world for the past 9 years, so I know what I'm talking about. Not an expert, but I know enough to confidently say, that I would happily show my **** in Blackpool High Street if we see 3-4-5 months consecutive increase in average prices this year.
Julio ,I have not once told anyone to part with their hard earned .
I am more tongue in cheek looking at the market and commenting on which way it will go .
All in a positive yet light hearted way .
IF I was sure then I would be charging people for my opinion .
Take my word at your own Risk .
Apologies if anyone has been hanging on my every word .
I am more tongue in cheek looking at the market and commenting on which way it will go .
All in a positive yet light hearted way .
IF I was sure then I would be charging people for my opinion .
Take my word at your own Risk .
Apologies if anyone has been hanging on my every word .



I think it will start to recover next year but I don't know when the prices will increase?



