House Prices Now At 2004 Levels
If you think more currency in the system, but pretty much finite number of assets, then it will take more money to buy each asset, so price goes up - but really price is the same and value of each pound is falling.
What's worrying is that if Sterling continues to slide, then the price of imports like oil (which is priced in dollars) will rocket - we get 'hyperinflation' and as a result interest rates could go through the roof (well over 20%)
Defo going to be an interesting few years ahead!...
It is certain that the Interest Rate will be much higher within a few months ..... remember that it was only 5 months ago when Interest Rates were 10 times higher than they are today!
It will not take much at all to see rates shoot up well past 5%
This is what could shoot the new house buyers down - borrow now at 2.7% .... but watch payments go up to about 9% by winter 2009. That will kill the housing market once more (and why we need the FSA 3x Salary Limit implementing now).
It will not take much at all to see rates shoot up well past 5%
This is what could shoot the new house buyers down - borrow now at 2.7% .... but watch payments go up to about 9% by winter 2009. That will kill the housing market once more (and why we need the FSA 3x Salary Limit implementing now).
That said, wherever happens in the US we will follow as night follows day - and it's starting to look up in the US housing market:-
Hope springs at signs of life in US housing market - Telegraph
Hope springs at signs of life in US housing market - Telegraph
It is certain that the Interest Rate will be much higher within a few months ..... remember that it was only 5 months ago when Interest Rates were 10 times higher than they are today!
It will not take much at all to see rates shoot up well past 5%
This is what could shoot the new house buyers down - borrow now at 2.7% .... but watch payments go up to about 9% by winter 2009. That will kill the housing market once more (and why we need the FSA 3x Salary Limit implementing now).
It will not take much at all to see rates shoot up well past 5%
This is what could shoot the new house buyers down - borrow now at 2.7% .... but watch payments go up to about 9% by winter 2009. That will kill the housing market once more (and why we need the FSA 3x Salary Limit implementing now).
Can't see that happening in the next 12-18 months
That said, wherever happens in the US we will follow as night follows day - and it's starting to look up in the US housing market:-
Hope springs at signs of life in US housing market - Telegraph
Hope springs at signs of life in US housing market - Telegraph
, I think you should buy one when you find a good one and I don't think you will lose in the long run.Les
The Official Government figures show a continued fall .... but, they are 2 or 3 months out of date:-
BBC NEWS | Business | House price decline accelerates
BBC NEWS | Business | House price decline accelerates
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How far? " ... Prices dropped by another 2% in February, pushing the annual rate of decline from 15.1% to 16.5% ...". I seem to remember February as being only last month .... or have I slipped into a parallel universe that has a different timeline ..?
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I'm looking for a new pad and still laughing at most of the asking prices. Saw a place today that was next door to a bigger, better house that has just sold for £xxxxxx, and they are asking £40k more than next door's sale.
I informed the agent that this place was about £75k over its market value and they agreed it was; but said the seller was holding out for a near asking price offer.
Best of luck to them.
I informed the agent that this place was about £75k over its market value and they agreed it was; but said the seller was holding out for a near asking price offer.
Best of luck to them.
I am beginning to read items about interest rates maybe going up !!!!!
Hell no .What are they thinking of .To control inflation its said .
I wish it was a subject with one outcome so we all could have an idea how things will develope ,but unfortunately every expert has a different opinion of whats going on and what answers are needed .
I might stop reading articles on the subject I think .
Matty wheres that pic of my head in the sand !!!!!!
Hell no .What are they thinking of .To control inflation its said .
I wish it was a subject with one outcome so we all could have an idea how things will develope ,but unfortunately every expert has a different opinion of whats going on and what answers are needed .
I might stop reading articles on the subject I think .
Matty wheres that pic of my head in the sand !!!!!!
The figures dont include prices from houses sold at auction, so they're not all that accurate really - average price falls are even steeper in reality.
Indeed, Pete.
I'm scouring the area I'm looking to move to (Surrey), and properly priced houses, with realistic sellers are selling/getting good offers in days.
The rest just remain for sale with people dirtying their carpets and wasting their time.
I'm scouring the area I'm looking to move to (Surrey), and properly priced houses, with realistic sellers are selling/getting good offers in days.
The rest just remain for sale with people dirtying their carpets and wasting their time.
House Prices UP 0.9% according to the Nationwide!!
BBC NEWS | Business | 'Surprise bounce' in house prices
This is what I have been experiencing ...... the market is very active and bouyant in well priced properties and better selling prices are being achieved on these places.
Overpriced stuff is still sitting looking more and more pathetic.
BBC NEWS | Business | 'Surprise bounce' in house prices
This is what I have been experiencing ...... the market is very active and bouyant in well priced properties and better selling prices are being achieved on these places.
Overpriced stuff is still sitting looking more and more pathetic.
Or it's a blip.
Unemployment on the up and rising, prices still out of reach of many and interest rates that will rise, forcing the real cost of housing further out of reach of most.
They still have a bit to come down yet - fingers crossed.
Unemployment on the up and rising, prices still out of reach of many and interest rates that will rise, forcing the real cost of housing further out of reach of most.
They still have a bit to come down yet - fingers crossed.
I believe you live in Scotland aswell where the market is holding out pretty good according to all the indexes.
If you believe that an average detached home is worth around £750k then your £75k down looks about right for Scotland.
If you are speaking typical £250k detached houses, then £75k drops i would say is severe and does not represent what all the indexes are saying about Scottish prices.
We are currently down as a nation 19%, Scotland around 8%. N.Ireland around 35%
The U.S is down 29% from peak but that is with 3yrs worth of drops.I think we have 5-10% max to go. From now on in there are going to be drops followed by gains followed by drops etc.In my opinion anyway
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Funny you should say that Les as thats one of the reasons I am keen to upgrade now. Hoping inflation will eat away the debt over the coming years.
Got a reasonably tasty 4.29% fix for 5 years lined up, providing we buy in the next 2 months.
House we are after has probably lost about 10% off peak.
Got a reasonably tasty 4.29% fix for 5 years lined up, providing we buy in the next 2 months.
House we are after has probably lost about 10% off peak.
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I'm not sure if USA prices have bottomed, the rate of decrease has actually increased afaik. Sales are up, but they are mainly foreclosures at knock down prices.
Equities have surged today and gold dropped. I'm buying gold now, as I think we'll have another surge in it when everyone realises the g20 plan will come to nothing.
I'll sell gold after the surge and then buy equities when the FTSE next falls below 3700 and the Dow 7000. (or lower )
I'll invest in property probably q1 to q2 2010 (when things are really bad)
ps If you do exactly the opposite to my above plan you'll make loads of money, as I'm usuallt wrong

Strange you say that JB, £75k is a hell of a drop.
I believe you live in Scotland aswell where the market is holding out pretty good according to all the indexes.
If you believe that an average detached home is worth around £750k then your £75k down looks about right for Scotland.
If you are speaking typical £250k detached houses, then £75k drops i would say is severe and does not represent what all the indexes are saying about Scottish prices.
We are currently down as a nation 19%, Scotland around 8%. N.Ireland around 35%
The U.S is down 29% from peak but that is with 3yrs worth of drops.I think we have 5-10% max to go. From now on in there are going to be drops followed by gains followed by drops etc.
In my opinion anyway
I believe you live in Scotland aswell where the market is holding out pretty good according to all the indexes.
If you believe that an average detached home is worth around £750k then your £75k down looks about right for Scotland.
If you are speaking typical £250k detached houses, then £75k drops i would say is severe and does not represent what all the indexes are saying about Scottish prices.
We are currently down as a nation 19%, Scotland around 8%. N.Ireland around 35%
The U.S is down 29% from peak but that is with 3yrs worth of drops.I think we have 5-10% max to go. From now on in there are going to be drops followed by gains followed by drops etc.In my opinion anyway
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