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Old 20 January 2009, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by njkmrs
Deep ,it is all harmless banter around some serious and some not so serious topics .
Some want to think the worst whilst others want to make the best of it .
Take whichever side suits you best .
It would be pretty boring on here without the banter /sarcasm .

There is no harm done to anyone and everyone gets their chance to have their opinion .Its what it is all about .

Matty likes the banter himself and he is well able to look after himself and has his own mind ,clearly .You have probably embarrassed him trying to defend him .

Matty ,take non of this personal ,as im sure you dont .
We dont have to agree .

Any other little "Lambs "out there need looking after by Deep ??

njkmrs, I know its just banter and I enjoy it just as much(most of the time )

I didn't for one moment accuse you of insulting Mattee or anybody else, you were having banter and I joined in by giving my point of view. It just happens that my point of view is quite similar to Mattees and I put it across.

I wasn't 'defending' Mattee in some kind of playground styleee, you know that as well but have decided to try and milk that angle. Fair play to you though as its quite quick witted

Now lets get back on topic, its been at least a couple of hours since you found another potential indicator of a return to the boom. Whats next up your sleeve? Perhaps the £ sinking to $1.4 today? That could be the start of something big
Old 20 January 2009, 06:48 PM
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Lol .
Thats the spirit .
I am searching quite hard for some more Glimmers of Hope .

I will let you know as soon as they come through .









Hey!!! Obama !!!!! .
Now hes sure to sort the world out .

Right folks doom over ,Barack will be getting the housing market Booming very ,very soon .!!!
Old 20 January 2009, 07:34 PM
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You know what, this site is sooooo much better now that ****en stupid infraction crap is gone.

imagine if it was still here, the policy forum would have been full of unfair infraction posts by now = fact!

simon deplanke shame on you
Old 20 January 2009, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by njkmrs

Barratt shares are rising ,are house builders seeing signs of more interest in their properties ???
Persimmon NE have 250 houses that they are going to build thru out this year. That figure could rise if they have more sales but at the moment those sales are definate. Considering its only the north east area its not a bad amount of work to have on the go. I definately think its more than last year or it may just seem like it
Old 20 January 2009, 08:18 PM
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My father in laws company is a contractor that worked exclusively for Persimmon homes.

He was layed off in November..He has worked for them for years too..
Old 20 January 2009, 08:28 PM
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Persimmon have got rid of hundreds of contractors and staff. I can't see where they will get the workforce for 250 houses but time will tell. The only contractors left are the ones working for cut prices.
Old 20 January 2009, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
You know what, this site is sooooo much better now that ****en stupid infraction crap is gone.

imagine if it was still here, the policy forum would have been full of unfair infraction posts by now = fact!

simon deplanke shame on you
I agree fully with your sentiments, but the Infraction System is still in operation:-

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ml#post8438189

I is moderated better now though, in the main
Old 20 January 2009, 10:02 PM
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Who needs Infractions .
We are one big happy Family here .













Old 21 January 2009, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by njkmrs
Lol .
Thats the spirit .
I am searching quite hard for some more Glimmers of Hope .

I will let you know as soon as they come through .









Hey!!! Obama !!!!! .
Now hes sure to sort the world out .

Right folks doom over ,Barack will be getting the housing market Booming
very ,very soon .!!!

Or perhaps unemployment in the UK today hitting the highest level for 12 years will kickstart things
Old 21 January 2009, 09:50 AM
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250 houses is nothing for a firm like Persimmon!

My Dad has managed a bit of a lucky one. He designs and does up period houses for people in super high quality style.

After 6 weeks of very little work, he's just got the nod (i.e. Dad got him planning permission and a very good architect) on a two year Grand Designs style mega new build project (the land alone was £800k) for an ex MD of a Lehman Bros division, now Nomura (i.e. money no problem). He wants the best of the best and it should hopefully see Dad through the worst of this slump. Good timing is rather an understatement.

Meanwhile work is piling in so fast here that I think I might need to take on some more freelancers. I'm sure it won't last!
Old 21 January 2009, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Meanwhile work is piling in so fast here that I think I might need to take on some more freelancers. I'm sure it won't last!
LOL It's a wonder you have time to post
Old 21 January 2009, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
LOL It's a wonder you have time to post


'Bring on the trumpet!'
Old 21 January 2009, 11:38 AM
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Fear not - I will also trumpet when work gets quiet too...
Old 21 January 2009, 01:09 PM
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Mattee, I'm no expert in these matters but if you are holding a large amount of cash you may want to spread it around different currencies. The £ may well continue to lose value, in which case you are losing purchasing power everyday.
Old 21 January 2009, 01:10 PM
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Not if you buy within the UK
Old 21 January 2009, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I agree fully with your sentiments, but the Infraction System is still in operation:-

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ml#post8438189

I is moderated better now though, in the main
i don't mind getting one from a mod if i have been naughty, but getting them from spazo-fracters for no real reason, and then having deplanke refuse to do anything about them, was starting to get a little tiring
Old 21 January 2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Mattee, I'm no expert in these matters but if you are holding a large amount of cash you may want to spread it around different currencies. The £ may well continue to lose value, in which case you are losing purchasing power everyday.
Sounds good in principle but to be honest, I would have no idea how to do that!
I am worried about it soon being worth sod all though.

At least inflation is just below our banks interest rates (by a tiny fraction of a %age) so the money isn't shrinking as it was.
Old 21 January 2009, 02:16 PM
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Use XE
Old 21 January 2009, 03:11 PM
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I'm fed up with GBP, and the talk of quantitative easing is of huge concern. I'm holding NS&I index linked for the return of inflation, I'm moving GBP towards oil, oil companies, pharmaceuticals, gold, corporate bonds.
Old 22 January 2009, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
I'm fed up with GBP, and the talk of quantitative easing is of huge concern. I'm holding NS&I index linked for the return of inflation, I'm moving GBP towards oil, oil companies, pharmaceuticals, gold, corporate bonds.
John, do gold/oil etfs track the commodity near 100% and 100% backed by physical supply?

I thought I read somewhere that a commodity ETF lost loads of value (though the commodity stayed flat) because the company that insured it was on the verge of going bust (could hhave been AIG or similar)

What I'm trying to ask are there any other factors OTHER than the price of the commodity that can effect the price of a commodity ETF?
Old 22 January 2009, 01:02 PM
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And also - can you please translate?!

FIL has just opened a dollar account and transferred a load of cash - to try and stave off our crashing pound.

Hesitant to do the same but considering it.
Old 22 January 2009, 01:04 PM
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The gold one I am using is 100% physical backed. Oil probably not, but I don't have a huge amount in that one.

AIG underwrote the ETFS silver that we had before. It was frozen for about a week, but there were no losses.

In GBP terms, I should have kept the ETFS gold I had before. I'm starting to buy again now at a higher level than where I sold it, but I struggle to find anything else I trust. I'm deeply unhappy about all the major currencies except perhaps the Yen, but that has gained so much I don't want to put more in as some feel that a strong Yen will destroy Japanese exports and force a correction.

I would love to get a nice property bought and mop up all my savings to do so, perhaps even add a modest fixed rate mortgage if a good deal was available, if I was in the US I probably would do well to move out of a strong dollar into property now. Too early for England, and certainly too early for Scotland which lags even more.

Presently, savers are paying the price for the nation's debt more than the indebted, some of whom are doing really well on tracker mortgages.
Old 22 January 2009, 01:22 PM
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Hi John,

Can you give me the ticker symbol of the gold etf you use please?
Old 23 January 2009, 02:12 PM
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John, could you kindly tell me the ticker symbol for the gold etf you are using?

Thanks
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ETF Securities
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Originally Posted by john banks
Thanks
Old 23 January 2009, 04:46 PM
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Someone just told me an agent wants £3k to sell their £90k house or £4k for joint agency.

Plus they need £400 for a HIP pack.
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If an Agent can sell your house, then maybe they are worth that?
Old 23 January 2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
250 houses is nothing for a firm like Persimmon!
!

They only completed 190 house last year so if they are doing 250 completed houses this year its a huge improvement
Old 23 January 2009, 06:30 PM
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Rents are now falling drastically - sellers will need to sell and not rent.

Can only drive prices down once more.

"Homeowners who let out their properties last year rather than sell them for a cut price are being forced to reduce rents or risk losing their tenants as the market rapidly sours.

Letting agents saw a rush of so-called “accidental landlords” into the market last year, as falling house prices convinced property vendors to delay their sales. But the sheer volume of properties that have become available to potential tenants in recent months has brought stiff competition for landlords and put pressure on rents" FT

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