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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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jza,
just dive in there and whip it out! if it goes to plan let me know and i'll do the same

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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 12:28 PM
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You saucy devil

I'll whip it out and email you a picture you naughty young man

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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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let the engine cool first- dont want to get burnt
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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I think 1.4 bar is way too high IF THE GAUGE IS ACCURATE - it is 20.3 PSI. This is in my opinion too far off the compressor map's best efficiency to be safe. But I have been wrong before
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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Keep on at your dealer!!, had the restrictor changed last week and the new ECU fitted this morning, boost according to my defi gauge has gone from 1.0 to 1.3, plus the select monitor showed the difference.
This proves that there are faulty PPP instalations/ECU's but my dealer as stated before has been very helpfull and now got it sorted.

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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Simon,

My dealer has been helpful so far and are looking at the boost today.

Have you noticed the difference?

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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intresting pcb
and thanks

not going to stop till this is sorted
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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Kev S,
There is a very noticeable difference, car now pulls much better.

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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sounds good pcb
hope to have the same result steve
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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PCB,

So after all that time of you saying the PPP was crap - you actually like it now its working!!!

DOH!!!!!

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Jza,
Thats because it was crap for the £1600 i had paid, before it was sorted.
Are you coming to PE on the 2nd?

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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It's lucky you went on a rolling road otherwise you would have never known and would have just thought that PPp was cr*p.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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Sounds good Simon, I shall be interested to see the difference, might even beat mine on the 2nd now

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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John,
Interested in your comments re boost levels as I'm also getting a peak of 1.4 bar with my PPP. Is this something that we should be talking to Prodrive about?
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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YES,
i think they maybe a problem with the ppp.
for one thing i think it was a big mistake to get dealers to fit the ppp, considering most sell tractors

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 10:52 PM
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I would say so Anthony. 1.4 bar is high if your gauge is accurate, but I have not fiddled with MY01 PPP only MY00, and the MY01 PPP is only supposed to make 3lbft extra (261 vs 258), but I suppose it has an extra cat, but 3 PSI more peak boost sounds A LOT. Whatever, I don't like where that is on the compressor map, however, if it is just a peak and there is not det then I suppose it is not so much of an issue. If a MY00 PPP reached that it would oscillate all over the place.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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any news kev
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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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Well I picked the car up on Saturday. Apparently there was a split pipe, not sure where at the moment, but they said the Boost was a little eratic and that it was now boosting consistantly at 1.2bar. (Need to speak to the Mechanic who fixed it, Dave - Good Guy).

They used a very accurate Boost Gauge, and I asked why not higher tyhan 1.2 bar. Apparently Prodrive have told them this is spot on for a PPP car, and that any higer and the ECU over fuels reducing power??

Can't say I can notice much so far. It did feel a little better at 3.5k to 4.5k rpm, but I can't be sure at the moment. I'll wait until I have driven over some familiar roads before deciding.

The question is, do I take it back to JN's and get it on the rolling road? Thoughts?

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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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I would have it done at John Nobles again, at least with them you all ready have the before bench mark to relate to.

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Old Feb 25, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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Kevin,

Agreed, but what if the results are the same, I'm then £50 down.

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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 09:02 AM
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bttt

got me motor back today kev, guage is funky but only gets to boost of 1.2bar in 3rd which is odd!
told by dealer i must have a bad car that is why i have not got the power i should have????
obviously not happy with this and going to contact prodrive to get some answers.
O and had a drag with a wrx without prodrive kit, and gess what nothing in it , he even looked like he was pulling away!!!
import!
domn't know if they have more power
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 09:06 AM
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get prodrive to sort it, not the tractor boys.

see you sunday
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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Steve,

Mine does seem quicker now. Seems to have taken a couple of weeks to settle down. Mine is peaking at 1.2bar I'm told, (still haven't got a gauge). I'm surprised you say yours is no quicker than a standard PPP, must be the driver.

1.2 bar I'm told is correct for a PPP'd car. Prodrive say anymore and the ECU over fuels losing power. If you're not happy though complain, and yes get Prodrive involved. My dealer did.

I guess the only way to prove it is back on the RR.

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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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hi kev
found outlater today the bu@@er in the wrx (m8 ha)
had a full decat induction system and a funny chip from gibsons of brock??? (reconds upto 255bhp)

to get back to mine, had a word with mr prodrive today , intresting, got some good info
also boost guage is upto 1.4 at times!
went for a spin tonight ,
getting happer
steve
ps trying somthing i was told by prodrive ,
also the car will get faster up to 10k then settle down
still a bit to go then
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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got some intresting info on power ect email me if u r intrested
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