daddyscoob

Hi

ref my talk of mirrors ... your comment above is totally WRONG!!!!!!! if you drive HGV's you will know that our wagons have 2 mirrors on the offside and three on the nearside. This is because of the blind spot on the nearside. Sooo if you drive abroad you have a blind spot. Thats why foreign drivers have a problem here. That is what started this whole thread


Ref the CPC I am totally clear regards this and licencing as I am a transport manager

GC8

Yes, and the scene view mirror will allow you to see in the blindspot. When youre driving abroad youre looking for cars, rather than watching the kerb. As Ive already stated: thep roblem is no different to that encountered by a domestic vehicle being driven in multi lane traffic. You can see eveything in your jmirrors if you look enough: and if youre awake.....

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

My Movano will whip all your wagons.

Restricted to 67 on my TomTom, 72 on the speedometer.

IMO there are lots of blind spots in a cars vans trucks.

I sort of bent a LWB Sprinter round the front of a bus, because it was in a blind spot when I checked my mirror.

daddyscoob

but the original posting was from someone complaining about foreign drivers pulling out as they were passing them causing them to pull into the outside lane. This IS because of the blind spot caused by the lack of mirrors. Yes the problem is the same for UK drivers abroad but you stated it was because drivers had not set their mirrors properly

daddyscoob

Here you go

daddyscoob

and again

GC8

My point was that with the standard and wideangle mirrors on the right hand side of that vehicle, along with the scene view mirror, that the driver would have been able to see a vehicle alongside (had he had his mirrors adjusted properly and had he used them properly - both unlikely considering the sate of many Eastern European vehicles stopped and prohibited by VOSA). The scene view mirror should have been adjusted slightly out and forward to make better use of it. I cant explain it any more clearly, so this will be my last post.

Perhaps I have magic mirrors?

daddyscoob

You must have strange they put different mirrors on each side of wagons and the powers that be are trying to change the law and change the mirrors they must see a problem you could give them a ring and save them a fortune

phil_wrx

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lol

never knew there where so many transport orientated people on here, i always got the gist it was all IT geeks

Dedrater

fatherpierre

Out of interest.............

Do you UK HGV boys think your foreign counterparts are worse/less well trained than yourselves?

Suresh

I can imagine you sitting there on the overtake; fingers tightly gripping the wheel and 'pedal to the metal' whilst counting the minutes that it takes for the other lorries disappear in your mirrors.


Just glad that Dutch motorway rules don't allow lorries to overtake during the rush hour.

mickywrx

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I drive for my living, not HGV, but it pays the bills.

You do realise that "transport" covers cars also.

speye91

Unlimited,and easily hits speeds of 70.Great to see other drivers faces as your passing them in this.

daddyscoob

WOW

phil_wrx

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not to real transport people it doesnt


joke by the way

stevie boy

whilst the vast majority of new trucks have 6 mirrors, i would say the vast majority of trucks on the road only have 4 mirrors and on the 4 mirror set up you can definatly lose cars - FACT.


THE BLIND SPOTS,


obviously when behind.

but the one that cause most accidents, on the passenger side, roughly from when your head is inline with the back of the cab and untill your back bumper is a few feet infront of the truck front bumper. this is the accident that tags your back end, sending the car spinning. never ever sit at the same speed as the truck in this area, accelerate out of it or brake out of it. the higher the truck seating position and the smaller the car then the greater the danger. the problem is made worst at night and / or when raining as the n/s kerb mirror become alot less effective, this is the mirror that looks directly down into this area.

on volvo's there is no gap between the the A pillar and the passenger side mirrors, effectively turning that A pillar into one thats 1 foot wide, if the driver fails to compensate for this then it can make a blind spot big enough to hide a car in when pulling out from T junctions.



my guess would be there are far more trucks out there without a rear camera than ones that have.



i agree on the 1st part but disagree on the 2nd. when a rhd truck moves back over to the left after overtaking you know what your've overtaken and in theory your moving into a slower moving lane. when a lhd has to pull out, its into a faster moving lane, its all done on mirrors so is harder to judge gaps / speed and you could spend 20 seconds checking mirrors but if someone is matching the speed along side the cab its possible they could lose them. an whilst you should always know what is around you, in a perfect world an all, all it needs is something infront to take your attention, in that time the empty middle lane has had a car come over from the 3rd and sit in the blind spot. so when the lhd driver does his 'whats around me check' the middle lane may appear empty still, were the rhd driver can look over his shoulder and as if by magic, appears the car. so whilst the blind spots are the same just on the opposite side, the danger is far greater.


stevie

phil_wrx

iTrader: (2)

well i work for eddie stobarts in warrington and we have 257 units here and none have rear reverse cameras and they all have 5 mirror set ups but this is just because they are less than 2 years old

billythekid

I agree the use of the term CPC is misleading, esp in an industry where the term CPC has always refered to the OL CPC.

Just to clarify too, the CPC will apply to all vehicles over 3500kg GVW used for business. So watch out - a lot more people are caught by this new law than people realise.

As for types of OL, there are:

Restricted: For companies or individuals wishing to carry their own goods in connection with their trade or profession.

Standard National: For companies operating for hire or reward i.e. haulage companies, within the UK.

Standard International: For companies operating for hire or reward within the UK and abroad.

billythekid

Oh, and my understanding is they are getting rid of restricted in a few years, sure I read that in CM somewhere.

Leslie

Why do you have to be so rude about it?

Les

Jamo

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cruise control

m1cks

That's Eubanks old truck isn't it? Notice the 5th wheel removed from the back because he couldn't pass his class 1.

Mick Gould Recovery has some nice motors.

phil_wrx

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why would he need to have the 5th wheel removed if he could pass his class 1? you only need c entitlement to drive a unit solo

phil_wrx

iTrader: (2)

and im not really into the american style trucks to be honest but i do like optimus prime

m1cks

I said couldn't pass his class 1. Had to get the 5th wheel removed to be able to drive it on the road as a class 2.

Jamo

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you can drive a tractor unit without a trailer and the 5th wheel intact on a class 2 licence mate

phil_wrx

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i said u dont need to remove the 5th wheel to drive the unit on a class 2 licence

Will

Yes. We bought a daf tractor unit for spares for our rigid tipper. And at the time i only had my class 2 and i drove it back to our yard, about 90 miles with the 5th wheel intact .


The likes of eubank and a lot of people i have seen at truck shows who drives their tractor units privetely and not for business use has took the 5th wheel off to make the unit look bettet (for shows etc etc). And people who use them privetley (like Eubank) doesnt have to pay as much road tax on the tractor unit, or have to get a O licence.

speye91

Sorry to say that is not Eubanks truck.He still has his,and its a PETERBILT that he owns. In my pic its clearly a KENWORTH.

Also this is a semi working truck,also goes to shows.Active fifth wheel.

m1cks if you look at your pic of Ken's trucks from right to left there is a Scania,Kenworth,then 2 Peterbilt's