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Old 29 January 2009, 07:02 PM
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So who is up for our next meet?

4:00pm Sunday 8th Feb at The Grasshopper car park (just off M25)


1. Fudge
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Old 29 January 2009, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
That's just about it Baly

If I were to opt for a normal NO2 system Olly said I would need to be brave regarding head gasket failure. I said "any options?", Olly said "yes, the Gas O Ring system". They have exactly the same system on the current Gobstopper.

The Gobstopper runs at 725bhp & 850 on NO2, so it delivers plenty.

Matt & Dave Rowe (Motec) just need to find the best way through the M800.
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Gas Rings -
One of these Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail
Four of these
Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail
and Four of theses
Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail

Used on WRC cars to prevent head gasket failure - as far as I know only avaliable on 2.0 ltr hence why gobstopper is only 2.0 ltr as you need waterway gaskets Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail (I have heard a wisper that its now avaliable for 2.35s and 2.5s from a certain tuner - but yet to see it)

Gobstopper hasnt had Head Gasket problems (according to Matt, so it must work)

Sy
Old 29 January 2009, 08:33 PM
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4:00pm Sunday 8th Feb at The Grasshopper car park (just off M25)


1. Fudge
2. SleeperSy
Old 29 January 2009, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperSy
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Gas Rings -
One of these Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail
Four of these
Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail
and Four of theses
Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail

Used on WRC cars to prevent head gasket failure - as far as I know only avaliable on 2.0 ltr hence why gobstopper is only 2.0 ltr as you need waterway gaskets Roger Clark Motorsport - RCM Product Detail (I have heard a wisper that its now avaliable for 2.35s and 2.5s from a certain tuner - but yet to see it)

Gobstopper hasnt had Head Gasket problems (according to Matt, so it must work)

Sy

Would "that" other tuner be the same one that is toying with a new dry sump system?
Old 29 January 2009, 09:11 PM
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All very cryptic I am sure Clive.

Zen Performance will have a dry sump system available to buy in about 16 weeks, all being well you will be able to purchase through all the leading tuners, including RCMS, who have considerable experience with the correct installation of such a system. But alas, no altenative headgasket solutions for big motors from Zen any time soon.
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It begins with C, ends with Y and has a H in the middle - Allegedly
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Originally Posted by SleeperSy
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Used on WRC cars to prevent head gasket failure - as far as I know only avaliable on 2.0 ltr hence why gobstopper is only 2.0 ltr as you need waterway gaskets (I have heard a wisper that its now avaliable for 2.35s and 2.5s from a certain tuner - but yet to see it)
Gobstopper hasnt had Head Gasket problems (according to Matt, so it must work)

Sy
mmmm I who this could be??

I understand a similar system is used in F1 racing. It's basically as near as you will get to tougher than tough block or or bulletproof.
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4:00pm Sunday 8th Feb at The Grasshopper car park (just off M25)


1. Fudge
2. SleeperSy
3. JP
4. Ian
5. Eureka (he's using the local bus to come down)


What is it with you lot and "Car Parks".....have you lot not learnt your lesson or do you want more tickets??

With all this big 400+ power....it's gonna make me look real slugghish!

JP
Old 29 January 2009, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JP4
mmmm I who this could be??

I understand a similar system is used in F1 racing. It's basically as near as you will get to tougher than tough block or or bulletproof.

F1 wots that - oh yer i remmber saw one at the pod in 2005 - only did 10.5
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Originally Posted by SleeperSy
FB - wots ya max speed (Theoretical) in six at 8000, now you have the 6 speed box??
Not sure Sy - not that high -175 or 180 or something as I'm on the 3.9 diffs. If i understand it right it's slightly less than the p1 original ratios allowed. Speedo only goes to 160 in the P1 and have had it off the clock a few times.


I have got an excel sheet somewhere that works it out, but I think it's in work - I'll have a look tomorrow. Ended up with a short close ratio box, but 170+ will be fine for most tracks as I'm more of a roundy round than a straight line chap.
Had 185+ and still climbing out of a porker 911 turbo S a few years back at Brunters before throwing the anchor out of the back window

4:00pm Sunday 8th Feb at The Grasshopper car park (just off M25)


1. Fudge
2. SleeperSy
3. JP
4. Ian
5. Eureka
6. Fat Boy

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Old 30 January 2009, 12:53 AM
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This is mad.

I only put this thread up in October thinking a couple of guys may find it interesting, and soon it will have had 23,000 hits !
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Clive

Found this on MLR.

Mitsubishi Lancer Register

If you click on each car, you can compare power and weight to our cars to see what 30-130 times to expect. I rekon if I do less than 12 ill be happy.

Are we going up in convy?

Sy
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
This is mad.

I only put this thread up in October thinking a couple of guys may find it interesting, and soon it will have had 23,000 hits !
Might be because you've hit a common interest Clive or maybe it's because your just "such a sweety"


Yes I know, but I'll suck up as much as it takes to get in the passenger seat when it's pumping out 720 bhp.
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Originally Posted by SleeperSy
Clive

Found this on MLR.

Mitsubishi Lancer Register

If you click on each car, you can compare power and weight to our cars to see what 30-130 times to expect. I rekon if I do less than 12 ill be happy.

Are we going up in convy?

Sy
You should be in the 8's Sy or quicker. Mark's grey car has beaten the 1/4 mile times of Neverneverman and Smithy500
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Originally Posted by SleeperSy
Clive

Found this on MLR.

Mitsubishi Lancer Register

If you click on each car, you can compare power and weight to our cars to see what 30-130 times to expect. I rekon if I do less than 12 ill be happy.

Are we going up in convy?

Sy
Convoy.... most certainly.
I was reading one of these the other night Sy. There was a 6 second time on the one I was reading!.

I assume that yours will be quicker than 12 mate. More like 9's if you will be running around 600 at the time ?

You taking yours up on a trailer I take it ?

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Hi Steve,

I think that there will be one thing that cost me 4 seconds thou - my brain - two things are in my minds at the moment:

1.last week my front wheel bearing colapsed
2. At 180 yr doing a mile in 20 seconds!!!!

(assuming you run on to a top speed run)
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Originally Posted by Scooby Hoo?
Might be because you've hit a common interest Clive or maybe it's because your just "such a sweety"


Yes I know, but I'll suck up as much as it takes to get in the passenger seat when it's pumping out 720 bhp.

More than likely your first theory Scooby Hoo
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Originally Posted by SleeperSy
It begins with C, ends with Y and has a H in the middle - Allegedly
C...H...Y...???

I don't know!
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Originally Posted by SleeperSy
Hi Steve,

I think that there will be one thing that cost me 4 seconds thou - my brain - two things are in my minds at the moment:

1.last week my front wheel bearing colapsed
2. At 180 yr doing a mile in 20 seconds!!!!

(assuming you run on to a top speed run)
Was the bearing faulty Sy ?..... that's a bit worrying
May have been flawed ?
I would be buying some new ones if I were you mate.

Crashing at 180mph would be bad for ya heart, not to mention the thunderous activity from ya sphincter !
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Is your car ready SF?
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Regarding the 30 - 130 day I will use that opportunity to find out my top end speed.

Do you think it will be off the clock with a 6 speed ?

Just hope it all stays together.
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Clive

I will be trailering the car - hopefully not bringing it back in a skip!!!

The bearing went on the dyno - the cars been laid up for a while last year- so having all 4 checked.

Dont forget yr ID on the day.

Sy
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Found this on an old 22b thread. UK 6 speeds old vs new (new being 06 on and forester ratios) Mine is an 04 UK box

Speed in gears @7500 on new 6sp v old 6sp
1- 39.3---------39.3
2- 63.9---------60.2
3- 93.9---------81.1
4- 125.7-------106.1
5- 160.3-------147.1
6- 202.1-------189.0
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
Found this on an old 22b thread. UK 6 speeds old vs new (new being 06 on and forester ratios) Mine is an 04 UK box

Speed in gears @7500 on new 6sp v old 6sp
1- 39.3---------39.3
2- 63.9---------60.2
3- 93.9---------81.1
4- 125.7-------106.1
5- 160.3-------147.1
6- 202.1-------189.0
Interesting!

Hammer: I was having a bit of trouble with our on-going PM. Not sure if your received my last...so... Matt C set my Turbo Boost at 1.85 until the trans is stronger. Will be setting it at 2.0 bar when done.
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Originally Posted by Fai17
C...H...Y...???

I don't know!
C...H...Y "Charity Performance Centre" (Herts)

They sell you everything at half price


I am still waiting for Olly's call Fai17. Should be any day now
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
Regarding the 30 - 130 day I will use that opportunity to find out my top end speed.

Do you think it will be off the clock with a 6 speed ?

Just hope it all stays together.
It will be well off the clock,Clive, depending on what rev limit you're working to. If Mad Hammers speeds are right then it's faster than i thought too.

Sy will be alright withn his Mocal electronic dash - I just hope the needle doesn't snap off on ours if it goes too far... I had it quite a long way off the clock when it was 330bhp and a 5 speed, and, on a private road, have had it off the clock in very short order with the current engine for short bursts
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
Interesting!

Hammer: I was having a bit of trouble with our on-going PM. Not sure if your received my last...so... Matt C set my Turbo Boost at 1.85 until the trans is stronger. Will be setting it at 2.0 bar when done.
Yep, got you mate. so was 425bhp @ 1.85 bar. What was spool like, 1bar by ......rpm and full boost by ....rpm ?
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
It will be well off the clock,Clive, depending on what rev limit you're working to. If Mad Hammers speeds are right then it's faster than i thought too.

Sy will be alright withn his Mocal electronic dash - I just hope the needle doesn't snap off on ours if it goes too far... I had it quite a long way off the clock when it was 330bhp and a 5 speed, and, on a private road, have had it off the clock in very short order with the current engine for short bursts
Dont worry, it wont snap, i have had mine and mark's speedo needles pointing straight down (180mph clocks)
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
Yep, got you mate. so was 425bhp @ 1.85 bar. What was spool like, 1bar by ......rpm and full boost by ....rpm ?
We have not carried out any tests or dyno's yet as the car is not finished, but I will give the car a run this weekend and record the rpm/bar.

The RPM is set to max at 7800 at mo.

You wont be disappointed with it I can assure you

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