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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
where do those figures come from?
Hi Tidgy. See my 'Plus Profile'. Graph supplied from Bob Rawle and was the most conservative of three runs.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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sounds very, over optomistic to me for a decat and remap
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Did you view the graph? I really don't think a man of Mr Rawle's reputation would give 'over optimistic' graphs and figures. I believe the system used is called Delta Dash and I am sure others would vouch for its accuracy.
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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lol, think you'll find its the other way round, delta dash always gives high readings, 300+ ftlb out of a td04 would be pushing the limits for sure
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Old Oct 8, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Skooby53
Did you view the graph? I really don't think a man of Mr Rawle's reputation would give 'over optimistic' graphs and figures. I believe the system used is called Delta Dash and I am sure others would vouch for its accuracy.
delta dash produces wheel figures.

Bob has his own spreadsheet that guestimates these back to flywheel figures, but I have always found his formula optimistic. Using his formula on my delta dash results, mine is 567bhp

and I know it isnt.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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I call bull****, not deliberate, just misinformed
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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can't agree more with peanuts here, nothing personal at all, and i know it aint gonna be what you want to hear.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Whats up with the figures Tidgy, (how you doing mate)
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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I'm guessing its disbelief based on experience.
Half an effort at decat and a simple filter will generally net you about 250bhp/235ftlbs.
No way near 280bhp and even more torque again.

Its not bourne out of deception I dont believe, just misinformation and blind belief.
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Hmmmm, very interesting! I am not taking it personally (Tidgy). It's nice to get such an experienced members opinion. I was only relaying what I was told from the horses mouth (sorry Bob not calling you a horse) and of course the graph backs this up. I suppose the most important thing is that it pulls much better and is totally transformed. Would a RR have given a better indication of Bhp/Torque? I was under the impression these were not very accurate.
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by help2003
Whats up with the figures Tidgy, (how you doing mate)

hey bud, im good tar.

there just extreamly high on a td04
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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
I'm guessing its disbelief based on experience.
Half an effort at decat and a simple filter will generally net you about 250bhp/235ftlbs.
No way near 280bhp and even more torque again.

Its not bourne out of deception I dont believe, just misinformation and blind belief.

normally a bit higher than that, average seems to be around 260bhp 260ftlb, mine was 258bhp, but 280ftlb.



also don't worry about getting to huing up on figures either, having a mahoosive amount of power means nothing on a RR/guestimate. its how it drives thats important
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