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Old 06 October 2008, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
FP: Im posting on the wrong thread! What Ive said really doesnt apply on this thread at all.....
Still mingled in though - I 'kin replied!
Old 06 October 2008, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
I doubt the speed that the officer was travelling at is relevant. But if he had to break the speed limit to to catch you then, through pure logic, you must have been speeding.
Why???
Old 06 October 2008, 12:51 AM
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Ony if you're clocked at an average speed over a distance are you liable for prosecution for speeding.

Or over a marked distance and timed.

For bad driving, then being on vid helps lol.
Old 06 October 2008, 12:57 AM
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If he's got you on camera, then your stuffed. Did you do what your accused of? If so give up now.

If you didn't, the prosecution will have to provide your solicitor with the evidence they have before court. If that shows you did it, expect a right royal shafting for taking it this far.

If you didn't, then job's a good'en. You'll get a not guilty.
Old 06 October 2008, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by burbling1
Why???
If the officer was travelling at 28mph and you went past him at 29mph then he would have been very close to you all of the way. If you were travelling a lot faster than he was, then he'd have to accelerate to catch you.

If he catches you in say 10 seconds, he was travelling at a similar speed to you, but if it took him 45 seconds to catch you, then chances are that you were travelling much faster than he.

But as I said earlier, don't do it again
Old 06 October 2008, 01:04 AM
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CPS (now) don't procede with cases unless they know they'll win.

But if they have the evidence, they will hang out of the back of you and rinse you if you lose.

I suspect the officer that pulled you was giving you a cheap and easy way out, as opposed to being banned. That's what I used to do to young blokes in Novas who were being idiots.
Old 06 October 2008, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Odds on
Did you do what your accused of?
Hmmm.. dangerous driving no, speeding dunno, racing.. please define.
Old 06 October 2008, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
If the officer was travelling at 28mph and you went past him at 29mph then he would have been very close to you all of the way. If you were travelling a lot faster than he was, then he'd have to accelerate to catch you.

If he catches you in say 10 seconds, he was travelling at a similar speed to you, but if it took him 45 seconds to catch you, then chances are that you were travelling much faster than he.

But as I said earlier, don't do it again

It only works over the speed limit. You have to follow for a distance showing they are speeding with a calibrated speedo.

I used to allow a mile to be sure. Once saw 177mph from an Escort....
Old 06 October 2008, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
If the officer was travelling at 28mph and you went past him at 29mph then he would have been very close to you all of the way. If you were travelling a lot faster than he was, then he'd have to accelerate to catch you.

If he catches you in say 10 seconds, he was travelling at a similar speed to you, but if it took him 45 seconds to catch you, then chances are that you were travelling much faster than he.

But as I said earlier, don't do it again
Well of course he will have to be going faster than me to catch me up. As I originaly said he was doing a lot less than the speed limit so if I was doing 60 and he was doing 40 then i will create a gap quite quickly.

He did say he touched 120 to catch us up must be a delayed reaction cos we were no were near 3 figures.

As for dont do it again. Well I shall try not to get caught but **** happens.
Old 06 October 2008, 01:17 AM
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Old 06 October 2008, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by burbling1
Hmmm.. dangerous driving no, speeding dunno, racing.. please define.
The fact your asking me to define is a bit strange. Only you and those involved know what happened.

Are you looking for a 'get out' clause?
Old 06 October 2008, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
I used to allow a mile to be sure. Once saw 177mph from an Escort....
That will be the 1.1 Popular. With an iduction kit, there mean as ****.
Old 06 October 2008, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by swampster
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Old 06 October 2008, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by burbling1
Flame suit mate, from some of your answers, it seems a hole is being dug. Hope you've got an air supply down there
Old 06 October 2008, 11:12 AM
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I bet it is likely that he did not have a video of you anyway and was trying to con you into an easy fixed penalty for him in order to fulfill his targets.

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Old 06 October 2008, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by burbling1
Me and a mate were driving our cars on a local bypass and overtook an unmarked cop car. We did a u turn at the next roundabout and were soon followed by said copper.

He pulled us over and said he was doing us for excessive speed on a single carriageway.

When sat in his car we asked how fast we had been clocked at he said that he didnt have us clocked as such but had us on camera, we asked to see the video, to which he said we cant and got on his high horse and said he was gonna do us for speeding, dangerous driving and racing.

He eventually changed his mind again and said we could have a fixed penalty notice.

Now this all seems a bit strange to us as he says he has a video but wont show us, says we were speeding but hasnt got us clocked.

Do you think we should call his bluff and see him in court or take the 3 points and thank our lucky stars?

IIRC If there is no calibrated evidence and only one police officer, then you might have a chance of contesting this. If there was evidence you really should have been shown it. The opinion of two officers would certainly be sufficient to hold up in court. So if there were two present, you're pretty much hosed!

The most honest thing to do is ask yourself one question: "was I speeding" if the answer is "yes" then one could argue it's a fair cop and you should just take the points.

If you didn't like the policeman's attitude, that's a seperate issue and can be dealt with via a letter to the Chief constable.

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Old 06 October 2008, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
That's what I used to do to young blokes in Novas who were being idiots.

You barsteward, why?!?!?
Old 06 October 2008, 12:00 PM
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A certain aspect of this is accepting that you were caught and accepting losses is part of the game. I have been let off with warnings for being a little bit over the limit or not displaying trade plates correctly and that was individually down to the officer at the time. When you get caught so blatanly like that you might as well hold your hands up be polite and hope you get a warning next time.
Old 06 October 2008, 12:26 PM
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By accepting a fixed penalty at the roadside you have admitted you were at fault. If you then go to court the judge will side with the police.

What you should do when pulled over by the police, is deny deny deny. The moment you admit to ANYTHING or accept a fixed penalty notice, YOU ARE SCREWED!!!

I have limited vocabulary when pulled over. The less you say the less they have against you!
Old 06 October 2008, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wagrain
By accepting a fixed penalty at the roadside you have admitted you were at fault. If you then go to court the judge will side with the police.

What you should do when pulled over by the police, is deny deny deny. The moment you admit to ANYTHING or accept a fixed penalty notice, YOU ARE SCREWED!!!

I have limited vocabulary when pulled over. The less you say the less they have against you!
When pulled over at the roadside and get given the option of 3 point or going to court with a possible charge of speeding, dangerous driving and racing you take the 3 points, I still have the option of going to court, if I feel he cant proof I was doing what he says I was.
Old 06 October 2008, 12:47 PM
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Just ignore everything for a while and see what happens, If you don't settle it they will take you to court anyway but you can at least see the letter come thru the door with all the details of what you are being done for and go from there before any court dates are even threatened
Old 06 October 2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Just ignore everything for a while and see what happens, If you don't settle it they will take you to court anyway but you can at least see the letter come thru the door with all the details of what you are being done for and go from there before any court dates are even threatened
Always a favorite ignorance will hide under the duvet every time doorbell goes. Hopefully the will get bored and let me off, you think?
Old 06 October 2008, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wagrain

I have limited vocabulary when pulled over. The less you say the less they have against you!
If you are stopped and you were speeding the best thing you can do is just be polite and co-operative. If you display a good attitude you might just get off with a: "calm it down, eh son" If you're obstructive, rude, or try the old "I know the law and don't want to incriminate myself approach" they'll have heard it all before and probably know exactly what to say in response and it'll be along the lines of "See you in court" And unless they've cocked up, you'll loose!

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