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Old 27 January 2012, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
I really dont see the link you are trying to make Im afraid. So you dont agree with normal puncture repairs either? How come?
because its on the load bearing sidewall with the wire plys, the middle of the tyre is fine, ive had a front blow out before, not very nice. a sidewall repair is not worth it im afraid.
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Old 27 January 2012, 07:24 PM
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You had a blowout from a sidewall puncture after they vulcanised it?
Old 27 January 2012, 07:25 PM
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in my 27 years of driving id say bin it...cant see many legit places repairing that tbh...also doesnt look like alot of tread left anyway unless my eyes are shot
Old 27 January 2012, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
You had a blowout from a sidewall puncture after they vulcanised it?
Yes, had a mate repair it years ago, on a track car, it bubbled on knockhill and blow out.
i know its crap having to replace what looks like a good tyre.
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Old 27 January 2012, 07:33 PM
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Driving for a long time doesnt qualify people to make any form of assessments on such matters. Even so called Kwik fit professionals (used loosely) only know what they get told which in turn is fed to those who go to their garages not knowing any better. 27 years of driving is just 27 years of the potential for having the wrong information being reinforced into you.

There are a lot of people that say this is a bad idea compared to a few that say its ok but generally those that say its ok offer far more convincing arguments.
Old 27 January 2012, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by **jay**
Yes, had a mate repair it years ago, on a track car, it bubbled on knockhill and blow out.
i know its crap having to replace what looks like a good tyre.
Jay
Thats good to hear a true account. I wonder why it is possible to professionally repair them then if this happens, or maybe it was due to being used on a track?
Old 27 January 2012, 07:39 PM
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end of the day he's asked for advice and everyone has given there honest answer...like i said id bin it..its too near the sidewall, but what do i know..27 yrs of driving and millions of miles means nowt lol...only he can decide what to do..
Old 27 January 2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
How do you know? Do you disagree that vulcanising works?
I had a similar damage to a tyre on one of my cars and no repairers would touch it. They said they only repair if its on the main tread and as long as no cords were damaged. I don't like the thought of a vulcanised patch as centrifugal force could peel the patch away. I much prefer a plug but there is no way this tyre in the pick the op posted could be plugged.
If it were a town car that never gets out of the city centre so never goes above 30 mph i may risk a patch but not on a performance car.
All that tyre is good for now is hanging out of a tree as a swing.
Old 27 January 2012, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Thats good to hear a true account. I wonder why it is possible to professionally repair them then if this happens, or maybe it was due to being used on a track?
possibly, as was getting some stick on a warm day, but is it really worth it?, it will make the tyre have a week spot in a very important place, it scared the crap out of me when it went so would never repair a sidewall, dont like repairing any point in a tyre but as said before, the sidewall is taking most of the stress off the load.
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Old 27 January 2012, 07:48 PM
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Blimey this thread started in 2008. My take as an x tyre fitter is yes it van be repaired using vulcanisation. A regular tyre shop would have to send it away to be done. Would i repair it and run it on my car it it was my tyre? NO. Wouldnt chance it. There would always be something in the back of my mind worrying that it was going to blow out.
Old 27 January 2012, 07:52 PM
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haha never noticed its from 3-4 yrs ago ...who started it back up today!!
Old 27 January 2012, 07:54 PM
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That does look like a tricky puncture. On mine is wasnt even a puncture just a little bit of flap that had been cut away. I was told that it can be glued back and then reinforced with a vulcanised repair. As non of the cords had been damaged I was happy for them to go ahead, especially as it cost £35 on a tyre costing £180 that still has 5mm tread on it.
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oh i see now.....vrooommmmmmm POP crash bang lol
Old 27 January 2012, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by **jay**
possibly, as was getting some stick on a warm day, but is it really worth it?, it will make the tyre have a week spot in a very important place, it scared the crap out of me when it went so would never repair a sidewall, dont like repairing any point in a tyre but as said before, the sidewall is taking most of the stress off the load.
Jay
Thanks, appreciate what you are saying.
Old 27 January 2012, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by **jay**
possibly, as was getting some stick on a warm day, but is it really worth it?, it will make the tyre have a week spot in a very important place, it scared the crap out of me when it went so would never repair a sidewall, dont like repairing any point in a tyre but as said before, the sidewall is taking most of the stress off the load.
Jay
Your right, unlike a motorbike tyre the side walls on car tyres flex and distort to keep maximum tread on the road. This damage is right where the side wall meets the tread. A patch would have to be vulcanized (glued) along a curve surface so would be continually distorted by the carcass movement. Personally ive never heard of any side wall damage being repaired.
Old 27 January 2012, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lee67
haha never noticed its from 3-4 yrs ago ...who started it back up today!!
Lol, it was me. Doing a search through 'vulcanised repairs' and came across this one fairly near the top. I guess there arent that many threads on them.
Old 27 January 2012, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Lol, it was me. Doing a search through 'vulcanised repairs' and came across this one fairly near the top. I guess there arent that many threads on them.
If you do have a tyre repaired ,plugged or vulcanised, for gods sake put in on the rear wheel not the front.
Old 27 January 2012, 08:00 PM
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we all got sucked in m8 lol..as i said personally i wouldnt repair..but its up to you then, will tell u tho that many years ago i had a non legit sidewall repair on an high powered motorbike, cos it was a newish tyre at £140...never felt right riding after due to thinking what if etc..so bit the bullet and bought another,...however unless we actually see a photo of your tyres damage its a tad hard to say now( esp as most replied thinking this thread was current lol)
Old 27 January 2012, 08:05 PM
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Appreciate that, especially as Im not the OP and Im just piggybacking this thread. The tyre is with clickontyres now so cant take a photo but if I did it looks like nothing. Its difficult to open up and even there we weren't convinced that you could even see the cords. The guy originally said not to ignore it but its up to me, making me think that it wasnt a critical thing so getting this done as well just adds that extra security. Even if the patch failed, not that there is any reason it should it would still actually be ok.

I will put it on the back though.

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Old 27 January 2012, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SRSport
Im getting my side wall repaired by vulcanising. Had a good chat with the tyre shop (click on tyres) and it is possible. Mine hasnt actually been punctured but its got a gauge in it that exposes a very tiny part of a cord which ha been undamaged.
soon as you expose the cords ,tyre is f****d!
from 20 yrs in the job! and even if it was able to be repaired, vulcanising on a sidewall !!?? who you dealing with ?!,back st garages? they should be shot !!! its purely for / centre of tread!!!
chris.
Old 27 January 2012, 10:09 PM
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Assuming we are on the same wave length and talking about hot vulcanising not cold vulcanising? The name of the shop is there in the quote. They sell the tyres as their main business and have to send it away which is odd if its not actually a good thing to do.
Old 27 January 2012, 10:25 PM
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i used to use a specialised company and yes they would check and repair sidewall damage in car and truck tyres ,took about a week before id get the tyre back though,no overnight quick bodge.
Old 27 January 2012, 10:33 PM
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...and these are the conflicting opinions and advice that are so confusing. Ive trusted the tyre shop, what they said sounded good and they probably had less incentive to tell me about this service as they would lose out on fitting as well as the mark up on the tyres instead they take a small cut on the repair. As it wasnt actually punctured I hope this was the right choice.
Old 27 January 2012, 10:36 PM
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it may be possible to repair however my life and my familys life is worth more than a tyre worth £120-£200, no brainer to bin and start over. Tyres are the only thing that connects your turbo'd car to the road and are arguably 1 of the most important parts
Old 30 January 2012, 05:14 PM
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After all of that they cant repair it, something to do with additional wear but found some Falken 452s for £75 which is a blessing in the end. Had to order two as the tyres I have on now are non directional but still a good price.

Anyway I now have the choice of what to do with the other good tire. As it stands I have 2 with 5mm tread and 1 with 6.5mm. It seems a shame to store the 6.5mm tire but should I keep the 2 with 5mm together or is is ok to mix the 5mm with the 6.5mm and benefit from the extra tread on one side?
Old 31 January 2012, 01:36 PM
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i WOULDNT get it repaired ! that is all ! ive seen a few of the repairs mentioned above and they have all failed !


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Old 05 February 2012, 05:35 PM
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I guess it could be worse. Take South Africa for example.

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