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Old 12 September 2008, 06:53 PM
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just noticed this nail stuck in my tyre which has only done a couple of thousand miles. Anyone know if it's likely to be repairable cant tell how long the nail is though it looks fairly close to surface so not sure if it will deflate when I remove it. Was wondering if I pull it out and it doesn't deflate whether it would be safe to use? Though I'm bracing myself for £120 replacement

If not, anyone recommend best place to get a replacement. Yokohama ADVAN tyres don't seem to appear on the popular tyre firms lists so was thinking of trying one of those that come and fix it at home any thoughts
Old 12 September 2008, 06:55 PM
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You can get it repaired, but its more involved. Youll need a vulcanising repair and the tyre needs to be baked in an autoclave.

Theres a good place in Rotherham: theyre few and far between, so this may be your nearest option.

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Old 12 September 2008, 06:55 PM
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No should not realy be repaired most will only do punctures in the center 75% of the tyre, its up to you if you want to pull it out, if it does not go down keep a VERY close eye on the sidewall for Bulging/misshaping for the next 200 miles
Old 12 September 2008, 06:56 PM
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i had the same thing happen to me this week they couldnt repair it so i had to buy a new tyre so now i have 1 odd one. i didnt want to wait because of the space saver wheel .
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Old 12 September 2008, 06:58 PM
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Adam, though well meant thats not particularly good advice. A KwikFit type place will tell you that it cant be repaired, what they mean is that they cant repair it with a simple plug.

In saying that it can be repaired, Im presuming that the nail penetrates the carcass, rather than scores the wall. If thats the case then Im confident that it can be repaired, but not certain.
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Ffs. That was directed to the first Adam who was wrong...
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Howy, Ive had a number of tyres repaired with similar damage (that cant be repaired in tyre bays using plugs). You should expect to have to leave the tyre with them as theyre usually baked overnight. The last one cost me £15 for very similar damage. I'll have a look for their card, but failing that I can give you directions.

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From my own experiences id say it's a right off. Don't think anyone will entertain the idea trying to attempt a repair on the shoulder or side wall of the tyre. I have now replaced 3 tyres due to punctures in the last 2 months alone. The last tyre (toyo t1-r) lasted just 1 week and had to be replaced. Tomorrow im off to buy 2 more tyres because just this week, you've guessed it another puncture and im now running on my space saver so it could be worse.
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hade a similiar one myself the other day and could not be repaired, worst thing was the tyre had only done 1000 miles
mine was a little different tho couple of inches further towards the middle of the tyre but it was a 4 inch long and 1/4 inch thick coach bolt!
old boy felt sorry for me as only bought the tire 5 weeks ago so did me a deal for £44 instead of £66
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Yes they can. They need a specialist repair though, not a simple plug.

Doesnt my saying that I have had several repaired and pointing out that they have to be autoclaved give you a clue?

Howy, if you want to know where to go to obtain a specialist repair thats beyond the knowledge/experience of the other posters, then send me a message.


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i've no doubt someone will repair a punctured sidewall, but to be honest i wouldn't recomend it as whatever went thru the side will have damaged the cord or any wires in there, tyres are very complex and a week sidewall can course a lump or at worst a blowout
if you value life spend your £120 and have peace of mind
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That doesn't appear to be a sidewall repair to me. The repairs are highly specialised and quality standards are closely adhered to.

Everyone seems to think that a repair that KwikFit arent capable of making is unsound in some way. The clue should be the autoclave, which costs the best part of £100,000 to buy!
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do they replace cords or wires that go thru thru the tyre, or just remould the hole?
Old 12 September 2008, 07:21 PM
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oh, and it looks very much like the sidewall to me
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Tyre repairs should be done to BS AU159. Sidewall repairs are not permitted and that nail/screw is in the sidewall. This link gives some guidance on what is repairable and what's not:

Tips on keeping safe and being prepared
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Originally Posted by Microstar
Tyre repairs should be done to BS AU159. Sidewall repairs are not permitted and that nail/screw is in the sidewall. This link gives some guidance on what is repairable and what's not:

Tips on keeping safe and being prepared
OK so now I need to know what the difference is between ADVAN A10A and ADVAN A10E and how can I tell what I have
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Yokohama OE fitment for Impreza's was 205/50R17 89V ADVAN A10E
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I see kwikfits name being thrown around again , i work for kwikfit as a mobile tyre tech and that is unrepairable with anything that 99% of all the tyres firms have to offermas a walk in service i.e a simple plug . It can be repaired as a major tyre repair !! from the one's ive seen when they come back its like a 3/4 of an inch block of solid rubber don't know whats inside ?? but as allready said they are all to current saftey standards and are safe . I would have it repaired and keep as a spare if funds alow my self but thats my op .
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I typed tyre bays at first, but it didnt read well, so I substituted KwikFit, as they seem to be the largest firm in their field and people would see what I meant.

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Btw: everyone who joined in repeating what theyd heard somewhere and saying that I was wrong: fail.
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Originally Posted by GC8
Btw: everyone who joined in repeating what theyd heard somewhere and saying that I was wrong: fail.
even he would use it only as a spare, so i once again say, spend £120 and be safe! russian roulette comes to mind, would you play that?
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Originally Posted by GC8
Btw: everyone who joined in repeating what theyd heard somewhere and saying that I was wrong: fail.
No mate. I've nearly 30 years in the motor trade inc. running my own workshop and repairing commercials (inc lots of tyre repairs, inc sending away for hot vulcanisation). No way should you put a sidewall repaired tyre on a car like a turbo Impreza. I'd have it repaired and keep as a spare for emergencies only (as mentioned above). The sidewall has to endure enormous forces, including all the lateral forces generated in cornering. It is also continually flexing as the tyre rotates and (on an Impreza WRX) each tyre has to convey up to 60bhp to the road across a few cm of rubber. I'm very picky about tyres, seen too many fail.
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Originally Posted by Microstar
Tyre repairs should be done to BS AU159. Sidewall repairs are not permitted and that nail/screw is in the sidewall. This link gives some guidance on what is repairable and what's not:

Tips on keeping safe and being prepared
So now youd have the repair made that you definately couldnt have made only a short while ago?

Whether itd be better kept as a spare isnt the point. Half of the people Ive spoken to in the 'motor trade' and the tyre game too, dont seem to have heard of this. That doesnt mean that it doesnt exist nor that it would be unsafe.
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Im getting my side wall repaired by vulcanising. Had a good chat with the tyre shop (click on tyres) and it is possible. Mine hasnt actually been punctured but its got a gauge in it that exposes a very tiny part of a cord which ha been undamaged.
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Originally Posted by GC8
Yes they can. They need a specialist repair though, not a simple plug.

Doesnt my saying that I have had several repaired and pointing out that they have to be autoclaved give you a clue?

Howy, if you want to know where to go to obtain a specialist repair thats beyond the knowledge/experience of the other posters, then send me a message.


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yes it can be repaired, Simon's advice is sound!
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Originally Posted by HOWY
just noticed this nail stuck in my tyre which has only done a couple of thousand miles. Anyone know if it's likely to be repairable cant tell how long the nail is though it looks fairly close to surface so not sure if it will deflate when I remove it. Was wondering if I pull it out and it doesn't deflate whether it would be safe to use? Though I'm bracing myself for £120 replacement

If not, anyone recommend best place to get a replacement. Yokohama ADVAN tyres don't seem to appear on the popular tyre firms lists so was thinking of trying one of those that come and fix it at home any thoughts
I have not read the thread so its probably been said but that is not repairable as it goes through or to near the side wall. That tyre is a bin job im afraid.
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Originally Posted by M535I
I see kwikfits name being thrown around again , i work for kwikfit as a mobile tyre tech and that is unrepairable with anything that 99% of all the tyres firms have to offermas a walk in service i.e a simple plug . It can be repaired as a major tyre repair !! from the one's ive seen when they come back its like a 3/4 of an inch block of solid rubber don't know whats inside ?? but as allready said they are all to current saftey standards and are safe . I would have it repaired and keep as a spare if funds alow my self but thats my op .
i agree with above , i work for another tyre company and have seen these so called specialist repairs! not good imho! in fact i wouldnt drive on one!
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If the friction material come off the pad on your brakes would you super glue it back on? dont think so.
so why would anyone in there right mind try and repair that, the side wall will bubble and then blow out, for the sake of a new tyre it just not worth it.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
I have not read the thread so its probably been said but that is not repairable as it goes through or to near the side wall. That tyre is a bin job im afraid.
How do you know? Do you disagree that vulcanising works?
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Originally Posted by **jay**
If the friction material come off the pad on your brakes would you super glue it back on? dont think so.
so why would anyone in there right mind try and repair that, the side wall will bubble and then blow out, for the sake of a new tyre it just not worth it.
I really dont see the link you are trying to make Im afraid. So you dont agree with normal puncture repairs either? How come?


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