cossie01

I hope so too Si

I doubt it kev, this will be the 2nd rebuild i've done on my engine, and yours is still sat in the boot

rbaz

iTrader: (1)

Are you going to use the rag the sh*t out of it running in approach as with the other 2 builds or are you going to go gently with this one?
Hope this one lasts

cossie01

It will be run in the same way (however I will only use around 1.2 - 1.4bar this time instead of carrying on at 2bar)

Cheers

M535I

hmm good point hear is anoutha one , you try woking for a living and you might not have as much time on your hands to play with your car
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cossie01

340BHP-WRX

iTrader: (6)

Russ,why don't you try running it in properly this time

I don't care what anyone says,you don't run a road car in the way that you have done so far and especially when it's on mineral oil

M535I

i agree why you sy very harsh way to run it in if you ask me ive never heard of it befor , slow and staedy win's the race !.

340BHP-WRX

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Some people say running it in hard forces the rings to seal up better and prevent the engine being abit smokey when running high boost iirc. But that's at the risk of damaging other components.

Personally,I would run it in just like any other engine

cossie01

There has always been lots of pro's and con's to which way is best to run an engine in.

The way I run it in, is the way 99% of forged evo engines get run in, doing it this way, means the rings seal the bores, and therefore it doesn't smoke or drink oil like it is going out of fashion.

It worked well with the original build, so I will stick with that methord.

Mineral oil is ok, obviuosly it isn't as good as fully synthetic, but as it will only be in there for 200 miles at a time, it will stay within spec for the time it's there.

It sounds harsh I agree, but if you do the slow and steady break in, you end up with crap bore seal, and will soon suffer piston ring blow by, which means it will use alot of oil and smoke more than I do.

M535I

hmmmmmmm well it's your car and money at risk mate so its up to you is'nt it mate hope it works out this time round .

340BHP-WRX

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Yep,lots of pro's and con's but surely running a freshly built engine at 2 bar boost and high revs just isn't a good idea

cossie01

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

cossie01

I already said 2bar was alittle more than I had intended.

I will release some pressure off the actuator, so that it runs around 1.4bar now.

340BHP-WRX

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I'll have to send that link to API,Zen etc as they have obviously been doing things wrong for years

M535I

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cossie01

I didn't say the slow and steady way was wrong.

All I said is that it isn't the way I was told to run in my last engine, and it worked fine with that, so I am using the same methord again.

Nobody on the MLR recommends the slow and steady run in on an evo engine, except the main dealers (now I wonder why that is ?).

M535I

i would have though that a company that has spent million's on developing there engines they might know best .

cossie01

Ok a quick update.

All mains and bigend clearance's have been checked and all are spot on.

Everything has been cleaned out (block, head, oil cooler, sump, oil pump, oil filter housing, oil strainer, crank etc etc), just in case there was any debris inside the engine.

Today I have refitted the cams, and primed the oil pump ready for when it goes back in the car.

Removed the engine from the stand, so I could bolt the clutch and flywheel back on.

All thats left to do is refit the gearbox and transfer box and then I can put it back in the car. Once the engine is back in place, I can refit the inlet manifold and the turbo etc.

Hopefully it will be running in the next couple of days, just hoping the weather stays dry

340BHP-WRX

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Glad to hear it's coming along mate

4wheel

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you must be able to do this with your eyes shut now russ.lol

overlord

how old were the push fit fittings ? I have just fitted a oilcooler to my scoob and i used push fit fittings but you have got me worried now. I havent given it any abuse yet as i have been running it in but will be soon .

cossie01

Cheers Si

Yeh it's getting that way now, I might start taking orders soon

They were brand new mate, if I were you, just replace them for some propper lines with connectors, as it just isn't worth the risk of an engine for the sake of £100 or so

cossie01

Oh I forgot to say, FP have decided to replace my turbo as a gesture of goodwill.

They say it was my engine that caused the turbo to fail, but I guess there is no way to proove it either way.

Anyway they gave me a choice of another Green or to try the FP Red instead.

So I chose the red, and they are going to supply 1 of there uprated oil feed lines and inline filter for it too.

leerichosti

just read thru this thread and i admire your ***** in the running in dept
and a result on the turbo front too
good luck mate

340BHP-WRX

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How did you get them to change their minds then ??

4wheel

iTrader: (2)

if you fell in sh#t you would still come out smelling of roses,good luck to you

cossie01

Cheers

I found a thread on the usa evo site, where the owner of FP had posted info about me and my turbo that wasn't 100% true.

I simply replied to him on the forum, and corrected a few things in that post.

This lead to 24hr's of bitching, where all the do-gooders in the usa sided with FP. However between 1am and 10pm in that day alone that thread had over 1800 views, which I guess they were not too keen on, as it bought more attension to the fact there could be a reliability issue with there turbo's.

So I then received an email from FP stating that they think my engine had a fault which caused the turbo to fail (funny that another 3 in the uk that I know of have now done the same thing) but as I had so much damage caused and because I felt it was all down to FP's turbo, they would replace it as a gesture of goodwill.

Hardly, ok yes I am now getting the turbo replaced, but I am still out of pocket to the cost of the parts for the 2 engine rebuilds

The only good thing to come of it all, is that I now know how to fit a cambelt, and build an engine from a box of nuts and bolts

4wheel

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if its the same type of turbo,ie from the same manufacturer will you trust it

cossie01

They would be 10000% mental to send me 1 out that they hadn't checked and double checked to make 100% sure it was perfect

4wheel

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hope so russ i would be suicidal if i was you if anything else went wrong