this is what happens when your tubo shaft snaps!
02 November 2008, 10:44 PM
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I could never trust it again, so it's best if I just get a propper braided hose with propper connections on the end I think.
02 November 2008, 10:52 PM
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I know what your saying, but having spent 2 months stripping it down, and rebuilding it up. I just can't trust myself to go near it with a tool kit, as I would prob end up taking the car to bits and selling it off.
02 November 2008, 11:01 PM
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If the car coped with a fair about of abuse for 18 miles before it started to rattle then I'd be tempted to do as Simon says. Drop the oil, change filter, refit push on fittings and then fire the bugger up. It won't do it any damage GENTLY driving it up the road if you've gotten away with it.
If you've f*cked it then the damage will soon be apparent.
Nothing to lose as far as I can see.
I'd want to know straight away and providing you're gentle you'll find out without doing any damage.
If all is well, park it up and don't drive it until you've got proper fittings not push on rubbish.
I hope you're lucky and you've got away with it.
If you've f*cked it then the damage will soon be apparent.
Nothing to lose as far as I can see.
I'd want to know straight away and providing you're gentle you'll find out without doing any damage.
If all is well, park it up and don't drive it until you've got proper fittings not push on rubbish.
I hope you're lucky and you've got away with it.
04 November 2008, 06:43 PM
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Well I had some propper oil lines made up for me yesterday, these ones will take 350bar of pressure, and have crimped fittings on them, instead of crappy push fit ones.
Took a bit of manipulating into place, as they are not as flexible as the old lines I had.
I removed the old filter, which was still around 1/2 full of oil, and also removed the sump plug, and to my surprise there was about 1 litre or so of oil still in there
By the time I got the oil lines fitted it was pitch black, so I just removed the battery so I could charge it over night, as it was dead.
Today I dumped some fresh oil in it, and turned it over about 10 times before I would let it fire up.
Turned the key and clenched my **** cheeks
It fired up sweet as a nut, no knocking, and no unusal rattles (just the lash adjusters were a bit noisey to start with, which is normal on an evo anyway).
I let it run for a few mins, just to make sure there was no leaks again.
All was good, so refitted the bumper, and then took a steady drive to me mates garage to stop the exhuast blowing (much easier on a ramp than on ya back under the car).
Sorted that out and took it for a drive.
I have so far managed 19.2 miles (1.1 more than last time) and so far no signs of any trouble.
So fingers crossed it will be good from now on.
Took a bit of manipulating into place, as they are not as flexible as the old lines I had.
I removed the old filter, which was still around 1/2 full of oil, and also removed the sump plug, and to my surprise there was about 1 litre or so of oil still in there
By the time I got the oil lines fitted it was pitch black, so I just removed the battery so I could charge it over night, as it was dead.
Today I dumped some fresh oil in it, and turned it over about 10 times before I would let it fire up.
Turned the key and clenched my **** cheeks
It fired up sweet as a nut, no knocking, and no unusal rattles (just the lash adjusters were a bit noisey to start with, which is normal on an evo anyway).
I let it run for a few mins, just to make sure there was no leaks again.
All was good, so refitted the bumper, and then took a steady drive to me mates garage to stop the exhuast blowing (much easier on a ramp than on ya back under the car).
Sorted that out and took it for a drive.
I have so far managed 19.2 miles (1.1 more than last time) and so far no signs of any trouble.
So fingers crossed it will be good from now on.
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04 November 2008, 08:29 PM
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Well I had some propper oil lines made up for me yesterday, these ones will take 350bar of pressure, and have crimped fittings on them, instead of crappy push fit ones.
Took a bit of manipulating into place, as they are not as flexible as the old lines I had.
I removed the old filter, which was still around 1/2 full of oil, and also removed the sump plug, and to my surprise there was about 1 litre or so of oil still in there
By the time I got the oil lines fitted it was pitch black, so I just removed the battery so I could charge it over night, as it was dead.
Today I dumped some fresh oil in it, and turned it over about 10 times before I would let it fire up.
Turned the key and clenched my **** cheeks
It fired up sweet as a nut, no knocking, and no unusal rattles (just the lash adjusters were a bit noisey to start with, which is normal on an evo anyway).
I let it run for a few mins, just to make sure there was no leaks again.
All was good, so refitted the bumper, and then took a steady drive to me mates garage to stop the exhuast blowing (much easier on a ramp than on ya back under the car).
Sorted that out and took it for a drive.
I have so far managed 19.2 miles (1.1 more than last time) and so far no signs of any trouble.
So fingers crossed it will be good from now on.
Took a bit of manipulating into place, as they are not as flexible as the old lines I had.
I removed the old filter, which was still around 1/2 full of oil, and also removed the sump plug, and to my surprise there was about 1 litre or so of oil still in there
By the time I got the oil lines fitted it was pitch black, so I just removed the battery so I could charge it over night, as it was dead.
Today I dumped some fresh oil in it, and turned it over about 10 times before I would let it fire up.
Turned the key and clenched my **** cheeks
It fired up sweet as a nut, no knocking, and no unusal rattles (just the lash adjusters were a bit noisey to start with, which is normal on an evo anyway).
I let it run for a few mins, just to make sure there was no leaks again.
All was good, so refitted the bumper, and then took a steady drive to me mates garage to stop the exhuast blowing (much easier on a ramp than on ya back under the car).
Sorted that out and took it for a drive.
I have so far managed 19.2 miles (1.1 more than last time) and so far no signs of any trouble.
So fingers crossed it will be good from now on.
Just hope there hasn't been any damaged caused that will show up in the future
04 November 2008, 09:11 PM
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Cheers Mark
Will be fine mate, as I am going to remove the sump tomorrow and double check the bearings anyway 
That way it's not a best guess, I will know it's 100% perfect.
Sure no probs Si
That way it's not a best guess, I will know it's 100% perfect.
Sure no probs Si
04 November 2008, 09:24 PM
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05 November 2008, 06:37 PM
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I finally found a nice clear bit of road and planted it, instantly all 4 wheels lit up, and I was going sideways (ahh how i've missed that)
I changed to 3rd and the bloody clutch started to slip lol
Into 4th and the clutch slipped a little then gripped nicely.
I had a quick look at the avcr to see the peak boost and was shocked to see on actuator pressure only I was peaking at 2.05bar :P
Anyway I used all the rev range, and it seemed the turbo was peaking at 2bar and holding 1.9bar to the redline (more than the FP Green ever held at the top end) and the car felt quick (well after 2 months of walking, a 1.1 fiesta diesel would have felt quick) but it definatly was quick as everytime I planted it in 2nd or 3rd as it came on boost I would break traction (something I don't think a 1.1 diesel would do) lol.
So I am giving it plenty of boost to force the rings to bed in, and lots of rev's aswell as losts of over run.
Then at 18.1 miles, disaster struck.
I was going uphill at around 50mph in 3rd, when I heard a strange sound from the engine.
I instantly backed off and the noise went.
I then touched the throttle again, and the sound came back (sounded like a turbo spooling up, but with no hose on it, very odd), instantly I thought, not another dead turbo.
However as I took my foot off the throttle again, I realised it was far worse than that, I clocked in the corner of my eye that the Oil Pressure light had come on, on the dash.
I shut the engine off straight away, but as I was going uphill on a dark country lane, I couldn't just park it up, as it wasn't safe.
However I spotted a laybe a couple of hundred yards up the road, so I fired the engine up again (sounded ok, apart from why I touched the throttle the turbo sound came back) and pulled into the layby slowly and cut the engine again.
Yes it will be slacker but you need it to last.Why would you start the engine back up after the oil light came on
especially if there was a noise.I aren’t suppressed its knackered just hope everything else is ok if it’s been starved of oil and you had been giving it some it could be much worse
05 November 2008, 06:43 PM
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Sorry to hear the damage is bad again but why would you run an engine in this way Yes it will be slacker but you need it to last.
Why would you start the engine back up after the oil light came on especially if there was a noise.
I aren’t suppressed its knackered just hope everything else is ok if it’s been starved of oil and you had been giving it some it could be much worse
Yes it will be slacker but you need it to last.Why would you start the engine back up after the oil light came on
especially if there was a noise.I aren’t suppressed its knackered just hope everything else is ok if it’s been starved of oil and you had been giving it some it could be much worse
As for starting it up again, with no oil in it.
I didn't have a choice, I was going uphil, on a country road, that isn't lit up at all, and is quite busy.
There wasn't enough momentum for the car to reach a safe place (the layby), so I had to restart it.
The noise wasn't rattling or knocking, it was the oil pump sucking.
When I fired it up yesterday it didn't rattle or knock either, it was perfect, and was great this morning too.
However I stripped it down to check the bearings, as I was advised that good oil pressure on a damaged bearing will hide any noise and the first I would know of it would be when a rod came through the block (prob at high boost and speed).
What I was told seems to be correct, as the engine sounded ok, felt ok, ran ok.
But the bearings are anything but.
The crank has a small groove in it on 1 of the mains that I can feel with my finger. However all other journals are like new still, so I can't understand how I have 3 damaged bigends and 3 damaged mains but only 1 damaged journal
05 November 2008, 06:55 PM
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If it put a rod through the block, it would have still been cheaper to just throw another stock engine in it and let it do the same.
05 November 2008, 07:07 PM
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Plus more gear oil, and another cambelt.
Oh and then I need about 10 litres of brake cleaner to flush the engine through just incase any bits of bearings have contaminated the engine again
06 November 2008, 07:26 AM
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keep your head high mate im sure you will come out smelling of roses 
.could be worse you could be stuck with a really exspencive car on finance like alot of peeps 
.like i said yesterday mate you will get it sorted .
.could be worse you could be stuck with a really exspencive car on finance like alot of peeps .like i said yesterday mate you will get it sorted .
10 November 2008, 10:53 PM
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Well i've now ordered most of the bits I need to rebuild it again.
Just waiting on a crank now.
I've tracked 1 down, just waiting for him to confirm it's in a1 condition.
Will start taking it all to bits again tomorrow.
Just waiting on a crank now.
I've tracked 1 down, just waiting for him to confirm it's in a1 condition.
Will start taking it all to bits again tomorrow.