I suggest you look at it again in that case. When KR turned in to Hamilton, Lewis was already in front. As for slipstreaming that's complete nonsense. Any gain by the fact he had the momentum was lost the instant he let off so KR could retake the postion.

RE: The actual slip streaming they'd just come round a tight chicane there wouldn't have been anywhere near enough speed for slipstreaming to come into the equation.

That's the actual incedent dealt with. What about the ferrari team getting away with far more serious incedents without any punishment whatsoever over the last few races???

Now tell us all how the decision was justified again!!!

 

Now!! For me i hate Mclaren (not lewis) and have always been a Schumacer fan thus Ferrari fan but i can't believe they have stripped lewis of a win. I hope Mclaren appeal and win.

On another note ferrari need a decent driver line up next year, Kimi is nowhere near a lead driver, Massa is good but not world class. I hate Alonso but would like to see him get Kimi's job next year

 

nice one michael
best season we've had for years

budgie

 

now thats what i call sitting on the fence
whilst stirring it up with a great big spoon

budgie

 

OK, im a little busy at work just now but ill point out a couple of things.
1. Kimi was on the racing line into the corner, he has the advantage, anyone can barrel along and try to outbrake on the "dirty" part of the track, most of the time it doesnt work.

2. The advantage was because hamilton missed the bus stop (the chicane) hence they penilised hamilton for that, even though he was behind kimi by the start/finish line.

Now personally I dont see anything wrong with that manouvre, it was a nice bit of jousting for pole, what the stewards saw i dont know because they have the data and we dont.

Tony

 

Belgium Grand Prix - Lewis Hamilton was unfairly stripped of his win Petition

 

Lewis, gave the position back after the move at the bus stop.

Kimi ran off wide and stayed off in the run off area, just after this. I reckon that it gave him a go at Hamilton, which he fooked up.

Kimi tried to take advantage of 'both their **** ups' and lost it.

Looks like Maclaren aren't flavour of the month yet....

 

I honestly believe that if I was Lewis I'd just quit. This sport needs a shake up and thes rest of the drivers need to back him.
The fans should also boycott the next race.
Had Lewis not cut the chicane he would have had a collision, and didnt poor Heikki get done for causing an avoidable collision. So they can hardly expect Lewis to do the same thing.
To say I am angry about this is an understatement.

RB5SCOTT - I am also a massive Schumacher fan, but how you can say that Kimi is not a lead driver I do not know. He is the WORLD CHAMPION! He didn't win that by chance. And he very nearly won it with Mclaren too. He missed out by 1 point. He might be having an "off" period, but you can't write him off.

 

Well it wasn't worth watching until the last 3 laps anyway, so I've saved you a load of disk space to fill up with some other dross

Geezer

 

Hamilton went off the track and allowed Raikonnen back through which is what the rules state must happen - after that he timed his accelleration to perfection and that's what he's been penalised for, if he'd fallen behind by 2 sec's then no more would have been said, but because he judged it bang on... FIAt strikes again...

 

That is sheer nonsense. Hamilton was ahead of Raikkonen as they entered the chicane so it was his line. Raikkionen forced him off the track so he moved left otherwise they would have crashed. He backed off afterwards so that Raikkonen was ahead over the finish line so he coulf not possibly had any "momentum" advantage. Hamilton obeyed the rules to a "T" so he cannot be blamed, except by a surfeit of ex Ferrari members on the board and that evil squirt Mosely who hates Ron Denis!

Les

 

I agree with Iwan. All it took was a bit of thought about the wording of the title. I would have been very annoyed too.

Les

 

So you think it is ok to cheat in order to win then!

Les

 

Mmm, well the Ferrari thread could mean all sorts of things, doesn't allude to F1 and once you open it you're screwed!

It's not as if I have given away someone's bank details you know, grow up a little, it's F1, it's NOT IMPORTANT!

Hell, it's not even interesting now as the results are fixed!

Geezer

 

I think that the other teams should say they wont race at Monza unless Hamilton is reinstated. It is to their own advantage anyway.

I wonder what possible reason there could be for someone to say that they "hate" McLaren. That is a strange word to use.

Les

 

If Hamilton had taken the final corner correctly then he would not have been close enough at the first coener to take Kimi.
Kimi had the line into the last corner and had every right to make Lewis Yield. Lewis quite rightly got out of the way but he clearly would not have been able to make that first corner pass had he not cut the chicane. I, like most of you would like to see Lewis lift the crown, but the above are the facts as i see them. The punishment however does not fit the crime!

 

Agreed..

Especially as Kimi didn't even finish?... If Kimi came 2nd, and they reversed the order..I could see some sence in this... but to punish a driver for getting an advantage over another driver...who regained his lead (twice), then crashed (purely his own fault) seams totally un-called for.

 

Shouldnt matter anyway, the fact that Kimi crashed shortly after shows that Hamilton would have won regardless of gaining a slight advantage (and giving it back).

Disgusting decision.

 

Though how do you know that the race would have carried on exactly the same had LH not got past KR just after the Bus Stop?
LH got past, putting KR under huge pressure. Had he not got past, there would have been less pressure on KR and the rest of the race could well have been different - i.e. KR might not have spun off and therefore may well have won the race.

Coming into Bus Stop, LH overcooked it - went to overtake, came in too fast and therefore had to go wide and cut out the Bus Stop. He then, after backing off, used KR slipstream to overtake going into the next chicane.

Had he braked harder / slowed doen more going into the Bus Stop and stayed on the track he may well have not been in the position to overtake going into the next chicane (where he did overtake)
So the stewards are saying that because he cut out the Bus Stop, he ended up in a position to overtake KR that he probably would not have been in if he had taken the Bus Stop properly.

While I can see their point / thinking, I do feel its very very harsh - and I am a Ferrari / Massa fan, not a LH fan.

 

Spot on summary at the end of the day.