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Old 24 March 2010, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by need4speeduk
thats what i was asking Alan.

What are your thoughts on 2.29ltr from a 2.0 CDB.
It uses a 96mm bore with a 79mm crank. You could use an 81mm crank as well!
Plenty of options about for the adventurous. We did toy with building a destroked 257 block as well!
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is 96mm a lot to take a 2.0 to though? i thought they were 92mm to start with?

what displacement would you get with 81mm cranks? and would any other parts need to be different from the 2.1 kit?

how about 83mm crank, would displacement could be achieved with this? and again would you need to change any parts from a 2.1 kit?
Old 25 March 2010, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
is 96mm a lot to take a 2.0 to though? i thought they were 92mm to start with?

what displacement would you get with 81mm cranks? and would any other parts need to be different from the 2.1 kit?

how about 83mm crank, would displacement could be achieved with this? and again would you need to change any parts from a 2.1 kit?
We haven't been there with this one, and haven't felt the need to bore a block that far. They say it's safe, who knows? on a CDB they could well be right. We can custom order rods and pistons, so I dare say we could accomodate most requests!
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Use a EJ22T block and with an 83mm crank and 98mm pistons you will have a 2.5 engine or 2503.21 to be exact

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Old 25 March 2010, 11:05 PM
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Good god, just as i thought i had it all figured out, along comes a new stroker kit.

Alan, would a EJ22 stroked to 2.33 be worth the extra expense over the CDB EJ20 stroked to 2.29?
Old 25 March 2010, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TH3_5T1G
Good god, just as i thought i had it all figured out, along comes a new stroker kit.
yea same here!

What I want to know is...Why has nobody ever done this or nobody has ever mentioned it before?
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Originally Posted by TH3_5T1G
Good god, just as i thought i had it all figured out, along comes a new stroker kit.

Alan, would a EJ22 stroked to 2.33 be worth the extra expense over the CDB EJ20 stroked to 2.29?
I'd say the issue might be a reluctance to bore an EJ20 block out that far.
Any volunteers out there? You ask for it, we'll build it!
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
yea same here!

What I want to know is...Why has nobody ever done this or nobody has ever mentioned it before?
My view is the biggest gain is from the stroke, rather than the swept volume, it's why an EJ20 stroker is such a step forward.
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
I'd say the issue might be a reluctance to bore an EJ20 block out that far.
Any volunteers out there? You ask for it, we'll build it!
you could always build it and i will let u try it in my car for free alan.....
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Originally Posted by SMA01 - black scoob
you could always build it and i will let u try it in my car for free alan.....
Generous to a fault!
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Would a S-CDB cope with a 2.3 Stroker?

What are the implications/problems which could arise from it?

Trawling the american ebay they are selling them http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brian...#ht_4314wt_939

Is it just the size of the crank/rods/pistons which will give the capacity?

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Old 02 April 2010, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisdicko
Would a S-CDB cope with a 2.3 Stroker?

What are the implications/problems which could arise from it?

Trawling the american ebay they are selling them http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brian...#ht_4314wt_939

Is it just the size of the crank/rods/pistons which will give the capacity?
We were discussing that one. The issue with the Crower conversion is the 96mm bore, which takes it out more than usual. We need a guinea pig, fancy giving it a go? I'll cut you some slack on the price!
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I'll be up for that offer Alan with my newly acquired EJ20 CDB
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Originally Posted by TH3_5T1G
I'll be up for that offer Alan with my newly acquired EJ20 CDB
In that case, just pop it in the post and we'll crack on it!
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what cc size injectors do you guys run with the 2.1 stroker???
is 650cc too small with a 321t??
Old 05 April 2010, 06:26 PM
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For a T it'll be a fairly high injector duty cycle but they should manage.
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Originally Posted by mikey30
what cc size injectors do you guys run with the 2.1 stroker???
is 650cc too small with a 321t??
depends how far you are going to push it with the car, if you are planning to up the power even more in future you would be better going something that will be capable of seeing the job right through...alan opted for a set of 1100cc injectors from roger clark for my build with perrin rails...seem really good
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is that on a 2.1 stroker engine mate???
what sort of power you running???
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Mikey, Scotts running in the 600's
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630ish isn't it?
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Originally Posted by TH3_5T1G
630ish isn't it?
i wont complain about a couple of bhp out mate....627
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Originally Posted by SMA01 - black scoob
i wont complain about a couple of bhp out mate....627
627.4
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Originally Posted by jd5217
627.4
Now there goes a man who deserves a medal for conspicuous Pedantry.
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
Now there goes a man who deserves a medal for conspicuous Pedantry.
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What's a STI8 S-CDB good for power wise?

And where do you get the figure from? Have there been many failures at say 600, so then you'd recommend 500 to be safe for example?

Just I've seen engines fail due to bearings, pistons melting......but never an actual block failure?
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Originally Posted by chrisdicko
What's a STI8 S-CDB good for power wise?

And where do you get the figure from? Have there been many failures at say 600, so then you'd recommend 500 to be safe for example?

Just I've seen engines fail due to bearings, pistons melting......but never an actual block failure?
Bottom line is, it's impossible to tell! My inclination is to feel that you'd be more likely to suffer a failure elsewhere in the engine if you just keep pushing it. We've never seen a block failure on any Impreza engine as it happens.
My view is that the much publicised block failures posted about aren't what they seem, in that the most likely event was a head gasket seal failure, followed by hydraulic lock splitting the block.
I wouldn't be worried about an S-CDB block at 500 bhp personally.
The ultimate has to be a closed deck of course, we have a number in stock.

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Cheers for the reply.

So really when people say about limits, they are just guessing? And it just depends how far you dare push the block?
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alan i have a v8 STI with the S_CDB

i would like to enquire about your 2.1 stroker with a full CDB supplied by yourselves

how much would i be all in

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