rbaz

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Me too called French plates
English plates for France, French plate for the UK works a treat on mobile cameras

The French don’t know what an STI is so having trouble getting it registered here.

urdad

I bought my scooby to fill a void of excitment when I stopped doing enduro's.
I toyed with buying a road bike but I need a car aswell,so I combined the two ideas of performance and convenience in one.
98.9867% of the time I'm law abiding but evey now and then I can wander up the speed scale with speeds in excess of 72 mph .I'm not stupid about it and confine my fun to open roads,never near schools,built up areas or blueblasters house/caravan/tent .
The gripe I believe is where they are situated and because of this they are seen as money making mercenaries.
Doh I could have bought a more normal car to mince around in,Astra,Mondeo,Escort,etc..and cheaper...

Tarkers11

Guessing he's a copper.....

PetesDad

He is right though ..... speed cameras and vans and coppas and video devices are of absolutely no problem or issue if you keep to the speed limit.

Tracks are there for you go go hell-for-leather

Yes I have been done for speeding - in 1994 - not before, and not since. I learnt my lesson and try to behave these days (not always successfully!) ... but the fine is an optional fine.

Tarkers11

I totally agree don't get me wrong. But they are sneaky aren't they.

PetesDad

Would you think that CCTV Cameras hidden in shops are sneaky? I doubt you would.

Would you think that a 'hidden' CCTV Camera which caught the scum stealing your beloved car, sneaky? I think not.

Sometimes being sneaky catches those whom you are targetting - they are targetting drivers who think nothing of speeding ..... why show those speeders that you are there so they slow down (only to drive at excessive speed 100 yards after the trap?).

Yes, I hate how they target drivers going DOWN a hill .... but never UP the same hill .... !!! Simply as they know most people will be caught one way and not the other .... and how they target roads with what seems to be an unrealistic low speed limit.

But, the law is the law and it's up to us to work within it - or suffer the consequences (which we are all very much aware of).

I sometimes drive the wifes Suzuki Swift and it's an eye opener on how fast some cars are (the Impreza), naturally fast, and how much easier it is to stick to the speed limit in her car than in my Impreza!! It is an eye opener, I now don't drive in the boot of slower cars as I appreciate that not all cars are capable of the same performance as mine.

Lisawrx

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To be fair Pete's Dad, I tink most people's issue is with the sneaky element rather than there use full stop. Most people are aware of CCTV, whether in shops/streets stc. They are often visable, although not always, and often there are actually signs to say there is CCTV in operation, if you steal and get caught, bad luck.

I'm not going to argue over the rights and wrongs of speeding, but I would agree to a point, that the best way not to get caught, is not to do it. However, if the issue over speeding is more about safety than raising revenue, then any presence of cameras of any type should be visable. It should be a matter of prevention, rather than catching someone out. I often find while out and about, that people tend to adjust their driving when there are a few police on the roads for example, rather than them slowing down for a small period of time for a camera. Also it's not all about speeding, there are many out there far more dangerous, who may not be going too fast.

PetesDad

I agree that it should be a matter of prevention rather than conviction. But it simply doesn't work ... people SEE a speed camera, they slow down until they have passed it and then speed again to the next camera. It achieves nothing.

But, put a hidden 'sneaky' camera van 'somewhere' along a long stretch of road ...... what happens? Everyone drives at the speed limit 'in case' the van is hidden in the bushes again ... they drive within the limit for the whole time they feel they might be caught.

So, it serves as a better deterrent I would suggest?

Lisawrx

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Not sure. Possibly may act in the way you say, but only to those who are aware it was hidden there at another given time. It would only serve to catch anyone else out. Then of course could lead to other issues,such as people not in the know potentially overtaking in a less than safe manner, as other people who are aware are going at possibly less than the speed limit to be on the safe side. Alot will depend on the roads, and of course those on them. The only real deterrent, is more obvious police presence, not just out to catch someone slightly above the limit, but to actually deal with the real dangerous people on the roads as well. Only my opinion.

chocolate_o_brian

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can i ask you this mr lewis snr. please.

as your a more mature drivers of probable considerable years experience, why have the speed cameras now in the last few years predominantly?

why not 30-40 years ago. admittedly technology wasnt as advanced, but it was still there. if we have always been expected to heed the speed limits set, why wasnt there cameras in the 60s-70s to make us abide these laws. i would have thought the hippy and disco generations were just as thoughtless as us lot of chavs in the 00s??

kgt

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Ive been done three times in the last 5 yrs.

1) 10.00 pm at night on a bridge in the region where a camera that was previously used to monitor the lights, miraculously had been turned into one for speed, I was doing 34mph, the bridge was completely empty.

2) 8.00am at the weekend going down hill on the A66 on my way to penrith with an 18 wheeler right up my **** in the pi55in rain. I think I was clocked at approx 46mph in a short section where it drops to 40mph for about 500 yds

3) clocked at 33 mph going down a hill past a school in durham. Admittedly the sign clearly shows 30mph as you approach and I respect that its there for a very good reason......but it was 6.45am

My old man is now 68 yrs old and has managed to pick up 9 points in the last 14 months after about 40 odd yrs of point free driving. None of them were fixed cameras, all were mobiles and all out of town and away from schools / houses etc. He is a professionally trained driver, ex services himself and has a peugeot 308 diesel - he's not a looney in a rocket ship.

What I'm trying to show is that if the cameras are there to catch aresholes and arrogant speeders then its more than likely that 10 times as many generally honest to good people are being swept up in the wide net that they are casting.

I agree I shouldnt speed, but I consider "speeding" to mean excessive speed and in inappropriate conditions - ie if it was 8.45am going past a school I'd be crawling, because I'm not stupid.

Before anyone asks, No, I dont think I'm above the law, and I have great respect for those who choose to uphold it, but you'd have to admit its getting to be a joke in some cases.

PetesDad

1. The Technology was not reliable

2. The Technology was very expensive

3. Cars were not capable of speeding as easily as they are now

4. We respected the limits in the 60's and 70's

The deaths on the road were a higher number then, so - what we are doing now with laws has improved things .... it needs to be applauded.

It is no mistake to say that I can remember idiots driving at wildly excessive speeds, just 20 years ago ..... something had to be done - the cameras are doing that, and I must say - speeding has decreased massively over the past 10 years.

OllyK

More to the point, if it was about safety, they'd want to stop you and correct you as soon as possible rather than having a slip of paper drop through your door 7 days later.

OllyK

Care to tell us how many speeding fines were issued in 1987 and how many in 2007. If you're right we should see a dramatic drop in speeding tickets issues over the last 20 years.

chocolate_o_brian

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.PetesDad

1987 - 2,124,000

2007 - 1,900,000

Bloody Hell ... that's a LOT!!

pmarch bugeye

people did used to speed in the 60's and 70's (sadly I was nowhere near old enough to have been able to drive on unrestricted motorways - cars were capable of speeding such as reps or spivs in big engined Cortinas, Capris etc. - no big brother surveillance and nanny-state interference but more proper traffic police to pull dangerous drivers - more interesting roads, such as the A303 as was then would today be thought of as a country lane - the downside was higher ratio of deaths or injuries due to passengers less insulated in old style cars from impact injuries - seemingly more caravans and people about who thought nothing of boozing all Christmas Day and getting in their cars and driving from one house to another - but on balance happier days as you will well remember Mr Pete. I admit I do speed on empty open roads away from habitation 'where safe to do so' but staunchly keep to the limits and drive very defensively in urban areas and in heavy traffic - I have never been pulled over and never received any points on my licence.