View Poll Results: would you leave the country if you had the money to do it?
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if you had the money would leave the uk?
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Crime rates are dreadful
Immigration levels are too high
Welfare system is bleeding the economy
Taxes are too high
Debt levels are way too high
Breakdown in society and morla values. Kids in London think it is "normal" to knife somone
Going to be some painful years ahead... glad I left.
Immigration levels are too high
Welfare system is bleeding the economy
Taxes are too high
Debt levels are way too high
Breakdown in society and morla values. Kids in London think it is "normal" to knife somone
Going to be some painful years ahead... glad I left.
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THe Crime rate according to the BCS is lower than it way, say, 10 or 20 years ago
Depends on what angle you are looking at immigration from - Immigration benefits to the country to the tune of $6billion net.
You will always have a welfare system and rightly so - What I think hasn't helped is the confusiuon over various benefits and perhaps needless bureaucracy.
As a country, a UK citizen is taxed less of his income than , say, France, along with many other countries.
Of course I would like to pay less tax, but the UK is not a example of a high tax economy particularly
Personal or national? (in either case I agree)
Whilst youth on youth violence is on the increase, I hope that measures will be taken to stem the tide. I don't beleive there is a mass breakdown in moral values, though. Most people, and I mean the vast mnajority still have a sense of right and wrong.
Depends on what angle you are looking at immigration from - Immigration benefits to the country to the tune of $6billion net.
You will always have a welfare system and rightly so - What I think hasn't helped is the confusiuon over various benefits and perhaps needless bureaucracy.
As a country, a UK citizen is taxed less of his income than , say, France, along with many other countries.
Of course I would like to pay less tax, but the UK is not a example of a high tax economy particularly
Personal or national? (in either case I agree)
Whilst youth on youth violence is on the increase, I hope that measures will be taken to stem the tide. I don't beleive there is a mass breakdown in moral values, though. Most people, and I mean the vast mnajority still have a sense of right and wrong.
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From: A big town with sh1t shops: Northampton
We've just come back from New York and I would live there for a year no problem. I think it would be nice to experience another way of life/culture etc. and would do this in many countries, not just choose one to live forever.
I don't think I could live in a city for the rest of my life, so I would also like to live in Germany, France, Switzerland (if I could!), New Zealand and maybe Australia. If money was no option, then you could do that sort of thing. If I had to pick one to stay forever, it would probably be a European country to be near the family - language barrier aside...
I don't think I could live in a city for the rest of my life, so I would also like to live in Germany, France, Switzerland (if I could!), New Zealand and maybe Australia. If money was no option, then you could do that sort of thing. If I had to pick one to stay forever, it would probably be a European country to be near the family - language barrier aside...
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Curiously a friend of mine went to Gib on a weekend trip, she said it's full of the most militant Brits (or pseudo-Brits) you could think of, all incensed by the Spanish, threat of loss of independence, etc etc. Sounds like somewhere the Daily Mail could run a special edition.
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THe Crime rate according to the BCS is lower than it way, say, 10 or 20 years ago
Depends on what angle you are looking at immigration from - Immigration benefits to the country to the tune of $6billion net.
You will always have a welfare system and rightly so - What I think hasn't helped is the confusiuon over various benefits and perhaps needless bureaucracy.
As a country, a UK citizen is taxed less of his income than , say, France, along with many other countries.
Of course I would like to pay less tax, but the UK is not a example of a high tax economy particularly
Personal or national? (in either case I agree)
Whilst youth on youth violence is on the increase, I hope that measures will be taken to stem the tide. I don't beleive there is a mass breakdown in moral values, though. Most people, and I mean the vast mnajority still have a sense of right and wrong.
Depends on what angle you are looking at immigration from - Immigration benefits to the country to the tune of $6billion net.
You will always have a welfare system and rightly so - What I think hasn't helped is the confusiuon over various benefits and perhaps needless bureaucracy.
As a country, a UK citizen is taxed less of his income than , say, France, along with many other countries.
Of course I would like to pay less tax, but the UK is not a example of a high tax economy particularly
Personal or national? (in either case I agree)
Whilst youth on youth violence is on the increase, I hope that measures will be taken to stem the tide. I don't beleive there is a mass breakdown in moral values, though. Most people, and I mean the vast mnajority still have a sense of right and wrong.
Sorry but you are wrong on the taxes.
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Tax burden on working families in UK rising as it falls in Europe - Business News, Business - Independent.co.uk
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If by "wrong" you mean, "absolutely spot on", yes.
Originally Posted by The Independant
The survey of the 30 members of the Organisation of Economics Co-operation and Development (OECD) found that most had cut taxes on pay since 2000.
However, the UK data showed that a married couple with one earner and two children faced tax of 27.1 per cent last year, compared with 24.9 per cent in 2001. This contrasted with a fall for the average of the 15 "old" EU nations from 32.1 to 31.6 per cent over the same period.
The OECD said the rise was driven by the 2002 increase in National Insurance payments to fund extra spending in the NHS and schools.
The figure, which is known as the tax wedge, is based on income tax plus employee and employer contributions less cash benefits as a share of labour costs. The UK figure contrasted with 35.7 per cent in Germany, down from 36.8 per cent, and 8.1 per cent in Ireland, down from 12.1 per cent. The French burden rose to 41.7 per cent from 40.5 per cent.
However, the UK data showed that a married couple with one earner and two children faced tax of 27.1 per cent last year, compared with 24.9 per cent in 2001. This contrasted with a fall for the average of the 15 "old" EU nations from 32.1 to 31.6 per cent over the same period.
The OECD said the rise was driven by the 2002 increase in National Insurance payments to fund extra spending in the NHS and schools.
The figure, which is known as the tax wedge, is based on income tax plus employee and employer contributions less cash benefits as a share of labour costs. The UK figure contrasted with 35.7 per cent in Germany, down from 36.8 per cent, and 8.1 per cent in Ireland, down from 12.1 per cent. The French burden rose to 41.7 per cent from 40.5 per cent.
In comparison to the rest of Europe, the UK has low tax rates. Both personal and corporate rates are lower than across the continent and have served as an inducement for inward investment. All worldwide income, both personal and corporate, arising from a UK base will be liable for UK tax.
If by "wrong" you mean, "absolutely spot on", yes.
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Yeah it's not the most beautiful place on the earth, but there are good parts to it (although it's very small) Depends on the reason for living here as to whether you would want to. Maybe if it saved you a few quid you would!
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Tax burden on working families in UK rising as it falls in Europe - Business News, Business - Independent.co.uk
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If by "wrong" you mean, "absolutely spot on", yes.
BritishAmerican Business Inc. | London Investment Information
If by "wrong" you mean, "absolutely spot on", yes.
Hmmm i suspect they refer to your average family with 2.2 children..... I can only speak from my own experience, when I left the UK I was paying 53% income tax. (40% plus getting hit for 13% NI)
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Yeah agreed. That's why most people "living" in Gibraltar live in Spain. I suppose most people on here would still rather be in the UK though.
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Don't see why you need money to live abroad!
I was skint and driving a Ford Escort when I first move to Germany! Not doing too badly now, pick up my 4th Scooby this week, as the pay is much better over here, not to mention the cost of living being much less :P
Tried going back to the UK in 1999, but only lasted 8 months! Given the UK has only got worse since then, I wouldn't even consider going back again!
Language is not such a big issue! Most people in Europe speak perfect English, and picking up the local language while you're there is quite easy if you make the effort!
I was skint and driving a Ford Escort when I first move to Germany! Not doing too badly now, pick up my 4th Scooby this week, as the pay is much better over here, not to mention the cost of living being much less :P
Tried going back to the UK in 1999, but only lasted 8 months! Given the UK has only got worse since then, I wouldn't even consider going back again!
Language is not such a big issue! Most people in Europe speak perfect English, and picking up the local language while you're there is quite easy if you make the effort!
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Well of course people are going to have individual circumstances that mean they may be better off in one country that another - But as a whole, the UK is a relatively low tax economy
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From: A big town with sh1t shops: Northampton
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Yes you are right. Although if I worked it out exactly I was probably paying about 39%. It's close enough I think....!
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haha, ok, didn't realise you would all be so pedantic. I'm not sure I have been corrected, rather that we all look at places in different ways. I can tell you there are many EU countries where I would be better off tax wise than the UK. Obviously this is not the case for all. Does that make you right and me wrong - I don't think so. Rather people judge on their own criteria. Anyway the poll was about leaving the UK - 90% of people have voted they would like to if they had the money. I guess the point I am trying to make is maybe you would have the money if you DID leave the UK. That's why I left anyway, so that I could make more.
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