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Old 19 February 2008, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Couple of different people have posted this recently, where does the info come from? It's a shame if true as I'd hoped to get one next ... only if it's 414bhp though

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Edit - looks & sounds amazing of course!
TBH as much as I am for the Type 25, I doubt the RS4 has only got 370 on the dyno, the Germans would be the first to have said something!
Old 19 February 2008, 06:35 AM
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OK...My B5 RS4 is 547BHP so it may well keep up with a Type 25 in a straight line.

A number of B7 RS4s have dynoed at 370-380BHP and regardless of what Audi do have not made 414BHP. Several people have, in fact, returned their cars on this basis and have full refunds. The rumour is that only the press cars made 414BHP and those 'expired' rather quickly, although this is rumour.

Regardless of the actually power output it's still a great car althought the B8 S4 and then the B8 RS4 which are based on the A5 platform will be even better, the B8 S4 is mean't to be a 3.0 V6 biturbo with 360 BHP so the B8 RS4 will need to be 480-500BHP
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
OK...My B5 RS4 is 547BHP so it may well keep up with a Type 25 in a straight line.
I've been in a B5 RS4 with 430bhp so with 547bhp I guess you may well be right

Despite loving the scoobies, I have to admit the B7 RS4 is one seriously desirable piece of kit. Build/quality of materials etc is the best out there IMHO. Would hae one over any BMW / Merc etc. Have to wait until I carry out a robbery to afford one though
Old 19 February 2008, 08:49 AM
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Last year we went to the Ring and one of the guys with a B5 RS4 running 650 BHP did a run down the Autobahn, 4 up and showed 202MPH on the GPS....not bad for an Estate

Before anyone points out the obvious this particular car has lengthened 6th gear.

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Old 19 February 2008, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Couple of different people have posted this recently, where does the info come from? It's a shame if true as I'd hoped to get one next ... only if it's 414bhp though

TX.

Edit - looks & sounds amazing of course!
Drive one and see - I'm more than happy with mine.

If you do like it mine might be in the market before too long
Old 19 February 2008, 12:42 PM
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^^ Perhaps you can take me for a spin in yours? Let's keep in touch

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Old 19 February 2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
OK...My B5 RS4 is 547BHP so it may well keep up with a Type 25 in a straight line.

A number of B7 RS4s have dynoed at 370-380BHP and regardless of what Audi do have not made 414BHP. Several people have, in fact, returned their cars on this basis and have full refunds. The rumour is that only the press cars made 414BHP and those 'expired' rather quickly, although this is rumour.

Regardless of the actually power output it's still a great car althought the B8 S4 and then the B8 RS4 which are based on the A5 platform will be even better, the B8 S4 is mean't to be a 3.0 V6 biturbo with 360 BHP so the B8 RS4 will need to be 480-500BHP
It just might, dont keep your fingers crossed!
Old 19 February 2008, 01:11 PM
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I had a toy with one of these beasts last week while coming home from work. I have a standard WR1 and stayed on his bumper til about 80...after that it was bye bye STI.
Old 19 February 2008, 03:04 PM
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Happy to see if my B5 RS4 can keep with a Type 25....anyone got a Type 25 ?
Old 19 February 2008, 03:16 PM
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I remember an RS4 at SSO a couple of years ago, It did a mid 13 second 1/4 mile.
Old 19 February 2008, 03:55 PM
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There is a 500BHP S4 which does 11.9 sec standing quarters.
Old 19 February 2008, 04:02 PM
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Stop toying with us Jeff you KNOW which car we'd rather have!

My Spec C has 375bhp & I'd be happy to "give her a go" against your 500+ bhp monster. Where could we try it out though?

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Happy to see if my B5 RS4 can keep with a Type 25....anyone got a Type 25 ?
Old 19 February 2008, 04:03 PM
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Sure we can organise something....I'm based in Kent
Old 19 February 2008, 04:29 PM
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OK girls, this should end the discussion:

"Performance has risen substantially from the original Type-25:

* 415bhp @ 6,500rpm (400bhp from 5,800rpm − 7,000rpm)
* 570Nm / 420lbft @ 3,800rpm (300lbft from 3,000rpm)
* 8,000rpm Redline
* 304bhp/ton
* 0−60mph in 3.7sec
* 0−100mph in 8.7sec
* 157mph limited top speed (175mph gearing, taller gearing also under review)"

Type25
Old 19 February 2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
OK girls, this should end the discussion:

"Performance has risen substantially from the original Type-25:

* 415bhp @ 6,500rpm (400bhp from 5,800rpm − 7,000rpm)
* 570Nm / 420lbft @ 3,800rpm (300lbft from 3,000rpm)
* 8,000rpm Redline
* 304bhp/ton
* 0−60mph in 3.7sec
* 0−100mph in 8.7sec
* 157mph limited top speed (175mph gearing, taller gearing also under review)"

Type25
That would win me thinks
Old 19 February 2008, 07:19 PM
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Ummm...looks quick.

However
RS4 B5
547 BHP (Over 400BHP from 3500 to 7500 rpm)
580 lbft
7600 rpm Redline
1650Kg so 301 BHP per ton
0-60 3.2 secs (based on a 500BHP S4's time...650BHP RS4 did 3.0)
don't know 0-100 but 42mph to 95mph in third is 2.9 secs
Top speed...something over 190mph

Ohh yea, 93000 miles as well ...in fact my RS4 produces more power at the wheels (421 BHP) than the Type-25 does at the crank. Of course the engine in the RS4 was built by Cosworth and has 5 valves per cylinder.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
Ummm...looks quick.

However
RS4 B5
547 BHP (Over 400BHP from 3500 to 7500 rpm)
580 lbft
7600 rpm Redline
1650Kg so 301 BHP per ton
0-60 3.2 secs (based on a 500BHP S4's time...650BHP RS4 did 3.0)
don't know 0-100 but 42mph to 95mph in third is 2.9 secs
Top speed...something over 190mph

Ohh yea, 93000 miles as well ...in fact my RS4 produces more power at the wheels (421 BHP) than the Type-25 does at the crank. Of course the engine in the RS4 was built by Cosworth and has 5 valves per cylinder.
So it was forged from the same steel!! Muahahhahaha.............I digress!

So do you have pics of that animal with 547 BHP?
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Did I mention the 380 x 34 mm front discs with 8 pot Brembo calipers or the 335 x 32 mm rears with 4 Pot Porsche calipers on the rear....just in case you need to stop Or the ported and polished head, hybrid turbos, cast inlet and exhaust manifolds, full Milltek with sports cats and downpipes, 600cc injectors and a DUH FMIC intercooler.... Full black leather Recaro interior and the fact that it cost me £18500 2 months ago... I have receipts for £30K worth of work from the first owner

Only downside is it's green

Damn fast car, makes my old 420BHP S4 feel like it's standing still

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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
Did I mention the 380 x 34 mm front discs with 8 pot Brembo calipers or the 335 x 32 mm rears with 4 Pot Porsche calipers on the rear....just in case you need to stop Or the ported and polished head, hybrid turbos, cast inlet and exhaust manifolds, full Milltek with sports cats and downpipes, 600cc injectors and a DUH FMIC intercooler.... Full black leather Recaro interior and the fact that it cost me £18500 2 months ago... I have receipts for £30K worth of work from the first owner

Only downside is it's green

Damn fast car, makes my old 420BHP S4 feel like it's standing still
But what year is it?

....and what about those photos?
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2001....







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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
2001....






Fooking nice!!

MTM'ed?
Old 20 February 2008, 12:46 PM
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The engine has had a £12.5K MTM conversion but I've recently had the car remapped by MRC Tuning with new injectors and it's running much better.
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Er, that's Can I retract my offer to meet you for a comparison

TX.

Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
don't know 0-100 but 42mph to 95mph in third is 2.9 secs
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What age was your s4 mate?was it the B5 bi-turbo? been looking at them recently.
Old 20 February 2008, 02:16 PM
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Yeap, I had a B5 S4 running 430BHP....best place is rs246.com to ask any questions.
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I have looked through that site there's is a lot of info on there,the only thing that puts me off the B5 S4 is that although it sounds quick it seems a lot of members on that forum find theirs quite slow and say the handling isn't up to much either.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
Ummm...looks quick.

However
don't know 0-100 but 42mph to 95mph in third is 2.9 secs
Top speed...something over 190mph
****, that's ballistic! I think that the er Terminator could possibly be terminated!
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
The engine has had a £12.5K MTM conversion but I've recently had the car remapped by MRC Tuning with new injectors and it's running much better.
Interesting........

MTM have a very interesting Supercharged RS4...........which most likely you know about!

YouTube - MTM Supercharged B7 Audi RS4 Clubsport!

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A standard B5 S4 is a reasonably quick car which is OK round the bends....with a little money spent it can be a pretty good car (330BHP) and handle. The B5 A4 chassis suffers from having the engine in front of the wheels so there is a limit to what can be done but it isn't as bad as some people would have you believe.

The 2.9sec refers to a thing called a FATS test which is a third gear run from 4200 rpm to 6500 which is then measured via a VAG-Com cable. There is a database here which shows the difference BHP makes to the times. Just be aware that the gearbox ratios in a RS4 are different to an S4 so the results aren't comparable. MRC Tuning - Custom engine management for Audi, Seat, Skoda, Volkswagen

Kim Collins has a supercharged B7 S4 which is a MTM conversion....Qs Tuning
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wiltshire
don't know 0-100 but 42mph to 95mph in third is 2.9 secs
Er, I'm sorry, do you have to get clearance from NASA to overtake?


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