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Old 06 February 2008, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Stevens
Its done that way to give you better vertical resolution over the range the car is likely to use. You can extend the exponential curve if you start to explore greater flow rates. There are two unused points on the end of the pre 97 green 160 MAF that we use to stretch the MAF to its limit. As you can see though, the gradient is so steep at the top end that small changes of voltage equate to large changes of airflow, so its accuracy is diminished and can lead to a noisy load figure when you approach saturation.
Thanks for the explanation Andy. What would you consinder to be the limit of the newage maf?

Yes.

Although there are ways around it.

It means re-jigging all load related tables
Cool, good to know it can be done
Old 07 February 2008, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by STiFreak
Thanks for the explanation Andy. What would you consinder to be the limit of the newage maf?
It depends on the housing size you put it in and then if its draw through or blow through. 600bhp will not be a problem though.
Old 07 February 2008, 09:59 AM
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Thanks Andy.
I know what a blow through maf setup is, but what is a draw through maf setup?
Old 07 February 2008, 10:19 AM
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Just went from ECUTEK to SIMTEK - maf has gone alas!!! thanks to the jolly green monster - supplied, fitted and mapped!

Car runs so much smoother, more "torquey" and just runs like a dream, I was debating getting an Evo but I think I have fallen in love with Subaru driving once again. As I told Simon(JGM) the very next day after having the ECU changed, was driving to work and came up against a rather posch looking M3 - what can I say 30K's worth of german engineering against arguably 6-7k's worth of Jap engineering - the result well, lets just say I had a huge grin - wider than ever before!!!

One of my biggest issues was the car idling, endless problems, but alas they have almost settled , some minor tweaks are needed and JGM will be coming down to do these - fantastic service and a quality product. Anyone with a 99/00 - or any other model this is a must in my opinion
Old 07 February 2008, 11:09 AM
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Draw through is the standard MAF location.

The ECU isn't giving you more torque, it's the numbers Simon has flashed it with that do that by turning the boost up. This is true of of any remap, independent of the hardware. Good that your idle issues are almost sorted though arguably an expensive way to fix it.
Old 07 February 2008, 11:48 AM
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I am suprised you had idle problems with Ecutek? Normally known for having manners the same as an OE ECU low down and at idle. Not suprisingly as it is the OE ECU.
Old 07 February 2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by p1mark
I am suprised you had idle problems with Ecutek? Normally known for having manners the same as an OE ECU low down and at idle. Not suprisingly as it is the OE ECU.
something slightly odd with the idle on the car, Jag has tried an idle stepper motor which i believe solved the problem temporarily but it returned, being able to control the stepper motor position on the simtek helped but just need to tweak the temperature compensation slightly as occasionally it will hunt slightly

Agree there is not normally a problem with idle on ecutek

Simon
Old 21 February 2008, 06:29 PM
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who can supply simtek to joe blogs with software for it and cables req'd ??
1)
2)
3)


who can map it??
1) andy f
2) api
3) bob r
4) jolly green monster
5) alan j

can zen map or supply??

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Old 21 February 2008, 08:26 PM
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I can certainly supply, fit and map it.

For Approx £75 you can have the programming lead and software disc to play with your own maps if required.

Andy.
Old 21 February 2008, 09:17 PM
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So can we!
Old 21 February 2008, 10:30 PM
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Can't we all ?

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Old 21 February 2008, 11:04 PM
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I thought you two were flat out busy?
Old 21 February 2008, 11:09 PM
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Try not to let it worry you Alan
Old 21 February 2008, 11:15 PM
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OK, as I'm quiet, I'll step aside, and leave you two busy ones to fight it out!
Old 21 February 2008, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
OK, as I'm quiet, I'll step aside, and leave you two busy ones to fight it out!

Mark asked two questions, I answered them.

There is no fight

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Old 22 February 2008, 12:37 AM
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I was busy mapping but not now

until the morning

Simon
Old 22 February 2008, 08:07 AM
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Lighten up! just kidding.. It was the fact of all of us on Mark28's list popping up one after another. With JGM on the end, it's a set!
Old 22 February 2008, 08:47 AM
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Hint - Use a when you're kidding otherwise its seen as stirring or to use the PC term, trolling.
Old 22 February 2008, 09:51 AM
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Old 22 February 2008, 09:57 AM
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Being fair of course, that list really should also have Steve Simpson on it!
Old 23 February 2008, 09:11 AM
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sorry for not posting back after i made a post with a list on names on it but the past couple of days have been crazy! lost my job for a start! .

anyway i am just trying to find out my options as to who i can go and see about a simtek ecu.


one other thing is that if i but a simtek do i only get the software to map that one ecu??

as i'm possible looking to buy 2 maybe 3 units, i dont want to have to have 2-3 programs just so i can map the cars ??

is that how the "mappers" are having to do it or do you they have the software to read all ecus with one software kit??

mark
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Thanks dad...
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Mark,

YHPM regarding supply policy..

Steve
Old 23 February 2008, 09:36 AM
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thanks steve.
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Just to bump this up.. its been a few years now and development has gone on.. so whats the view now on simtek vs newage ecu? opinions changed?
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biggest flaw with the simtek is lack of nock control, if that was sorted then simtek would be the way to go, but since its not personaly i wouldn't want rid of the nock control.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
biggest flaw with the simtek is lack of nock control, if that was sorted then simtek would be the way to go, but since its not personaly i wouldn't want rid of the nock control.
I agree.

However, the option of multiple maps makes it worthwhile when people are running methanol mixes.

Syvecs has full knock control and would be my choice if budget allows.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I agree.

However, the option of multiple maps makes it worthwhile when people are running methanol mixes.

Syvecs has full knock control and would be my choice if budget allows.

yeah i agree on the syvecs bit, not sure if i'd want to risk not having it just to get an extra map in.

horses for courses i supose
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yeah i agree on the syvecs bit, not sure if i'd want to risk not having it just to get an extra map in.

horses for courses i supose
Risk what Tidgy, surely the best answer is to not let it knock in the first place. Tuned correctly and with a degree of safety margin there is no reason for an engine to knock if you always use the same fuel and have no faults. The stock ecu only has 1 fuel and ignition map, the SimTek has 2. If mapped for it the SimTek would cope just as well if not better with a radical change in octane than the stock ecu would IMHO.
I have seen the results of people assuming they can run their car on anything they like because the stock ecu will take care of it.
It isn't pretty.
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Ultimately If one was to spend between 3-5k on an engine build, you would want to protect this investment the best way possible e.g. active knock control and wideband fuelling.

I see the syvecs as one of the main reasons of being able to run a GT30R @ 2 bar on a standard engine and I had a choice between the simtek and syvecs at the time.


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