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Old 14 February 2008, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mg driver
audis all new 40k 4.2 V8 350 bhp S5 beat around a race track by an old rover 45 you could pick up for 3k

Actually i dont rate Alonso,spits his dummy when a new young upstart beats him
Congratulations and how much work have you done to this amazing rover 45, still standard suspension? no engine mods?, full interior?.

I could very probably embarrass a lot of expensive machinery in my stripped out 17yo pug 205, but then again it has the structural integrity of a chinese takeaway carton, rattles my teeth and in no way would i want to drive any distance in it. I would get a bad back and tinitus. However i would buy that Audi, because unlike some people i appreciate that the car is designed for the road first and the race track very probably never.
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Originally Posted by rob878
Congratulations and how much work have you done to this amazing rover 45, still standard suspension? no engine mods?, full interior?.

I could very probably embarrass a lot of expensive machinery in my stripped out 17yo pug 205, but then again it has the structural integrity of a chinese takeaway carton, rattles my teeth and in no way would i want to drive any distance in it. I would get a bad back and tinitus. However i would buy that Audi, because unlike some people i appreciate that the car is designed for the road first and the race track very probably never.


hee hee ,i dont deny my zs is modified ,its pushing a massive 205-210 bhp but yes it sounds from the description just like your pug .I know the audi /beemer is/are road cars firstly,i still think they are a bit lame though for the money .....plus its fun winding up badge snobs who often seem to think they are a cut above us peasant types and drive about like they own the road .

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Originally Posted by cat7
she tested an atom and caterham (I think it was a caterham?) and they posted up the lap times. Tiff was a second faster in a boxster around the same track.....make up your own conclusions
To be fair wasn't it wet when the squeal-meister-pig tested the Atom and the Cat?
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Good thread turned into a sh1te thread by kiddies. Anyway, had the work done yet, Ed?
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Good thread turned into a sh1te thread by kiddies. Anyway, had the work done yet, Ed?
I know.....

I can't belive some of these feejits actually watch 5th gear



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Old 15 February 2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mg driver
fair enough i didnt know that ,i still say she would be quicker than 99% of scoobynetters though,wouldnt you think?

out of interest ,which model caterham and which model boxster ,a boxster s for example i would expect to beat or be close in performance to a lower powered caterham.
cat r500 evo and atom with supercharger!
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Good thread turned into a sh1te thread by kiddies. Anyway, had the work done yet, Ed?
TOMORROW! :yipee:

Dropping it off on the way to heathrow (off to san fran for a week) she's getting a Quaife LSD and AP 6-pot's.
Old 15 February 2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mg driver
dissapointingly slow as standard ,check out this fifth gear track video at castle combe 335i vs audi S5,poor lap times ,i can lap quicker than that with 140 bhp less than the Audi in an old rover 400 based mg zs
YouTube - Fifth Gear - Audi S5 vs BMW 335i
Good to see that the Audi has 50bhp more yet the BMW was only 5/100's slower!

The twin turbo BMW engine is already being tuned upwards of 400bhp in the states with no changes other than exhaust and chip, such is the level to which it has been 'detuned'
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Heavy, yes, but don't foget in that clip they are driven by someone with some, but not that much, talent who was showboating to a fair degree.

On top of that, and more importantly, what makes a good road car often doesn't make a good track car and vice-a-versa. Neither are "range topping" either and neither are set up for the track.

But I expect you'd know that
Yup, range topping would be M3 and RS5, although I'll bet my 335i with the diff, AP's and remap will lap as quick as the M3. It's already as fast in a straight line as an E46 M3.
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Originally Posted by mg driver
hee hee ,i dont deny my zs is modified ,its pushing a massive 205-210 bhp but yes it sounds from the description just like your pug .I know the audi /beemer is/are road cars firstly,i still think they are a bit lame though for the money .....plus its fun winding up badge snobs who often seem to think they are a cut above us peasant types and drive about like they own the road .
What's most funny is you peasants inability to understand that sophisticated people like me are well above your rudimentary attempts at 'winding up'. I rarely get wound up about anything because I'm always right
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Originally Posted by rob878
How dare you that is the pride of the fighter fleet (read only bloody fighter), the mighty F3, never fired a shot in anger, and you would be worried at the amount of work we now do just to get it in the air.
It is getting a bit old, like every western fighter, but still serves ir purpose nonetheless!

ASI/Mach indicator does look a wee bit old though.......standby one?
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Originally Posted by Edcase
TOMORROW! :yipee:

Dropping it off on the way to heathrow (off to san fran for a week) she's getting a Quaife LSD and AP 6-pot's.
Nice one. Bon voyage!
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Originally Posted by Edcase
TOMORROW! :yipee:

Dropping it off on the way to heathrow (off to san fran for a week) she's getting a Quaife LSD and AP 6-pot's.

That will be interesting to see, when YOU POST the pics here after the work is done!

Will be das UBER driving machine!
Old 15 February 2008, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
What's most funny is you peasants inability to understand that sophisticated people like me are well above your rudimentary attempts at 'winding up'. I rarely get wound up about anything because I'm always right

LMAO! Bloody Rover owners!
Old 15 February 2008, 09:31 PM
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Old 15 February 2008, 10:04 PM
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Trying to work out what bike you have from the photo - looks like a Hustler? And I'm not going to get involved in the BMW vs Volvo debate - my dad had a Volvo - end of story :-)
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ellsworth moment
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The 335i when tuned is an absolute monster and to think they put the same lump in the 135i :shock:

In my old M5 there was a trick to the traction, if you simply switched it off it was still on to a manner, if you held your finger on the button for 20Secs it would disengage totally leaving you to use all 400bhp in Furious anger

Enjoy your holiday, and enjoy the best when you get back e
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Cheers

Yeah I nearly got a 135i coupe for a day recently while the dealer was sorting a a minor scratch I noticed after collection. It comes with a rudimentary LSD using electronics, but still not the same as a proper mechanical job.

My 335i is the same. A quick push lets you get a little bit of a slide going but holding it down gives you full control.

Sadly it's a work trip, although some would argue that point (it's for the game developers conference )
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
It is getting a bit old, like every western fighter, but still serves ir purpose nonetheless!

ASI/Mach indicator does look a wee bit old though.......standby one?
Digital readout is on the tv tabs. I would post a pic of that, but rather think i shouldn't lol.
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Originally Posted by rob878
Digital readout is on the tv tabs. I would post a pic of that, but rather think i shouldn't lol.
Why not? There are C-172s with more advanced LCDs than what is in the F3!
Come to think about it, they are more advanced than what I have in what I fly!! LMAO! s

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Elleworth - cool. I have a Hustler (surprise!) that I absolutely love.
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Originally Posted by Janspeed
Why not? There are C-172s with more advanced LCDs than what is in the F3!
Come to think about it, they are more advanced than I have in what I fly!! LMAO!

not what they are, but whats on them. the only pics i have are from flying, i'm not geeky enough to take pics of them in the hanger. Now if it was a quadroplex messer dowty taileron actuator, oh man heaven, oil leaks everywhere, . Still it's saturday, can't mention work.
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Rob, when are the F3s being phased out completely ?

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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Rob, when are the F3s being phased out completely ?

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That is a interesting question, it varies depending on what the air ranks decide is the best idea at any given moment. It should have been 2010, Treble One (abstante ra ra ra ) have been told they will be around till 2012 at least. Although at the moment we are under taking a massive life extension program for the jets coming through the hanger, coupled with the fact that the Saudis want more jets apart from the Tranche 2 jets they bought, your guess is as good as mine. I would expect you will see them for another 3-4 years at the moment.
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Originally Posted by rob878
not what they are, but whats on them. the only pics i have are from flying, i'm not geeky enough to take pics of them in the hanger. Now if it was a quadroplex messer dowty taileron actuator, oh man heaven, oil leaks everywhere, . Still it's saturday, can't mention work.
Neither can I, but I still have to get up at 5 AM tomorrow! Still it's for a good cause!
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Originally Posted by rob878
That is a interesting question, it varies depending on what the air ranks decide is the best idea at any given moment. It should have been 2010, Treble One (abstante ra ra ra ) have been told they will be around till 2012 at least. Although at the moment we are under taking a massive life extension program for the jets coming through the hanger, coupled with the fact that the Saudis want more jets apart from the Tranche 2 jets they bought, your guess is as good as mine. I would expect you will see them for another 3-4 years at the moment.

The Saudis are updating the GRs to GR4 level if i'm not mistaken, and they bought the 72 Typhoons, should be interesting to see what will happen.
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Originally Posted by rob878
That is a interesting question, it varies depending on what the air ranks decide is the best idea at any given moment. It should have been 2010, Treble One (abstante ra ra ra ) have been told they will be around till 2012 at least. Although at the moment we are under taking a massive life extension program for the jets coming through the hanger, coupled with the fact that the Saudis want more jets apart from the Tranche 2 jets they bought, your guess is as good as mine. I would expect you will see them for another 3-4 years at the moment.
Cheers Rob.

Are we getting a smaller number of Typhoons compared to the existing number of F3s etc ? ie is the number of front line combat aircraft being reduced by the back door by the introduction of the Typhoon ?

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LOL. "Other marques" = "Typhoon".
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We have jumped a bit off the mark (marque) lmao!!!


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