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Old 15 January 2008, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I don't see an Infraction for you?
I got 2 Thumb downs

Didnt mean to offend anyone.
Old 15 January 2008, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SetoN
I dont think its fair
So what? Senior management have made the call that burger flippers should be clean shaven. They're in charge of the loot! If little Oik doesn't comply then he gets managed out of the business. Sending him home for a smarten up seems like a good start; letter of concern next and so on and so forth. It'd be easier for the lad to simply get the farkin' razor out until he can find a stubble friendly firm.
Old 15 January 2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Thats PATHETIC!

No doubt some little jobs worth, power hungry, ****-tard has been made 'supervisor'... Personally I'd go have a word.
I did, rang them up and the manager said "it is a food area"
Old 15 January 2008, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 340BHP-WRX
Who really cares what they look like when they serve that crap

Damn! wish I'd said that
Old 15 January 2008, 08:44 PM
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I can't believe you rang up your sons employer!

He'll never get to 5 stars now!
Old 15 January 2008, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pauld37
I did, rang them up and the manager said "it is a food area"
Manager: "Can you shave when you come to work please, pauld37 junior?"
pauld37 junior: " "
Old 15 January 2008, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Out of interest, did you undermine teachers when they attempted to discipline him?
He sorted the teachers out himself
Old 15 January 2008, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pauld37
He sorted the teachers out himself
Sounds like a smashing kid.
Old 15 January 2008, 08:49 PM
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...LOL

He sorted them out well........
Old 15 January 2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
Sorry, but to me this typifies modern Britain.

You're surprised that an employer has sent your son home for being scruffy - rather than being defensive and wanting to find out the policy so you can have a moan, how about bollocking him and making sure he's learnt his lesson. Pride and professionalism have to be more important than whinging and thinking it's ok to turn up at work looking scruffy.

Gordo
Who says unshaven is scruffy, its his choice if wants to grow a beard.
Asking what the policy is, isn't whinging is it
Old 15 January 2008, 08:52 PM
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You doing it for him is a bit lame though.
Old 15 January 2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
I can't believe you rang up your sons employer!
He thought he had been sacked, he was told when it was his break, to go home and not come back
Old 15 January 2008, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Manager: "Can you shave when you come to work please, pauld37 junior?"
pauld37 junior: " "
"He has had nearly a full on beard before, and they have said nothing" said Pauld37 senior
Old 15 January 2008, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
So what? Senior management have made the call that burger flippers should be clean shaven. They're in charge of the loot! If little Oik doesn't comply then he gets managed out of the business. Sending him home for a smarten up seems like a good start; letter of concern next and so on and so forth. It'd be easier for the lad to simply get the farkin' razor out until he can find a stubble friendly firm.


There was a time when a gaffer said jump you automatically replied how high. Times have a changed though. In order to attract business in ANY trade one has to sell themselves before the product, appearance is one of those facets that helps.
Old 15 January 2008, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
...LOL

He sorted them out well........
Joke
Old 15 January 2008, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SetoN
In the army they shave not to look smart, but so that a gas mask will seal 100% round your face.
Same for FireFighters
Old 15 January 2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
So what? Senior management have made the call that burger flippers should be clean shaven. They're in charge of the loot! If little Oik doesn't comply then he gets managed out of the business. Sending him home for a smarten up seems like a good start; letter of concern next and so on and so forth. It'd be easier for the lad to simply get the farkin' razor out until he can find a stubble friendly firm.
Little oik!?
Old 15 January 2008, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pauld37
"He has had nearly a full on beard before, and they have said nothing" said Pauld37 senior

Is it possible management has changed since that time?

As I'd said in my earlier post, there are often procedures in place, but some managers are more relaxed, while others follow the rules to the letter.
Old 15 January 2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
Is it possible management has changed since that time?

As I'd said in my earlier post, there are often procedures in place, but some managers are more relaxed, while others follow the rules to the letter.
Managers are there to manage. There is a lot of responsibility on their shoulders and they didn't get to that position by chance. Fact is like it or not they have the authority to ask/compel you to do something. However any workforce including the manager must work as a team not individuals.
Old 15 January 2008, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Managers are there to manage. There is a lot of responsibility on their shoulders and they didn't get to that position by chance. Fact is like it or not they have the authority to ask/compel you to do something. However any workforce including the manager must work as a team not individuals.
Totally agree. The reason I asked the question is because I too work in a shop (customer service environment), and in the time I have worked there we have had a few different managers, some allow more flexibility in the personal appearance department than others. Any request by management has to be obeyed if in line with company policy and with that I totally agree, and some of the staff at my work have had to learn that, others like me, accept that is the way it is and don't need to question it.

The point I was trying to get at, as I detected a little sarcasm from Paul , was maybe the reason his son had been able to have a beard or stubble before, was down to a different manager being in charge at that time.
Old 15 January 2008, 09:24 PM
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I don't think the string vest he was serving in went down to well either
Old 15 January 2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GUNNER
I don't think the string vest he was serving in went down to well either
<humour mode on> I think it was probably the spliff that did it. <humour mode off>
Old 15 January 2008, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
<humour mode on> I think it was probably the spliff that did it. <humour mode off>
spliff

spluff
Old 15 January 2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
The point I was trying to get at, as I detected a little sarcasm from Paul , was maybe the reason his son had been able to have a beard or stubble before, was down to a different manager being in charge at that time.
That wasn't ment for you Lisa, that was in reply to someone else

I think you're right, different managers seem to keep to the letter of the law. I was just wondering if it was a sending home offence, after he had just done six hours of an eight hour shift
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Originally Posted by pauld37
That wasn't ment for you Lisa, that was in reply to someone else

I think you're right, different managers seem to keep to the letter of the law. I was just wondering if it was a sending home offence, after he had just done six hours of an eight hour shift
Oh hun, I know the sarcasm wasn't directed at me.

I think it would have been fair play tbh if he'd been sent home straight away, if that was how the particular manager was running things. However, I do feel it is a tad on the harsh side to say the least, to do this after 6 hours already at work. Perhaps it was the first time the manager had seen him, I don't know, but maybe a fairer way of dealing with it, would have been to say carry on with his shift, but make sure after this he comes in clean shaven, if that is their policy.
Old 15 January 2008, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
Sorry, but to me this typifies modern Britain.

You're surprised that an employer has sent your son home for being scruffy - rather than being defensive and wanting to find out the policy so you can have a moan, how about bollocking him and making sure he's learnt his lesson. Pride and professionalism have to be more important than whinging and thinking it's ok to turn up at work looking scruffy.

Gordo

That was my initial response too.
Old 15 January 2008, 09:53 PM
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wear a beard net thingy?
Old 15 January 2008, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pauld37
I did, rang them up and the manager said "it is a food area"
I'm sure it only just about meets EU regulation to be called food..

Anyhoo its not like he's got a huge professor's beard is it?? And I'm sure his contract will give him the opportunity to wear a beard sock, because they wouldnt want to discriminate now would they?

Tell him to go back to work and request a beard sock, if they cant supply one then its the companies problem.
Old 15 January 2008, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Managers are there to manage. There is a lot of responsibility on their shoulders and they didn't get to that position by chance. Fact is like it or not they have the authority to ask/compel you to do something. However any workforce including the manager must work as a team not individuals.
In Burger King? My **** IMHO Who ever kisses franchisee **** like a pro and goes the longest without losing the door key gets to be manager..
Old 15 January 2008, 10:34 PM
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your son has learned a good lesson in appearance and being smart to work in the public domaine

I hope they docked his pay too

I have sent people home with no pay for similar things

If he want to be scruffy he is in the wrong job and you have to learn disaplin to get on in this world


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