GC8

Dont be offended if I dont take advice about drugs from ScoobyNet.

kingofturds

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A lot of those eca stacks are crap. 20 mg of real ephedrine and 200mg of caffine is a real kick in the nuts

killerscoob

Sorry Mate you cant buy T5's anywhere on the internet,They are what we call "Behind the counter type pills" And if you do find them on ebay then they are proberly not the real deal.


There is high caffine pills out there that give some of the effects but dont last long.

Try Maximuscle.

hux309

You could stack nutrabolics Super Fats and thermolife dicana, both combined have been known to bring good results without the mood swings and jitters.

Personally id advoid maximuscle.

Go on this forum for far better advice.

MuscleTalk Bodybuilding Forum

Lots of guides there to set you off in hopefully the right direction.

jaytc2003

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or original hydroxcut with sida cordifolia combined can give a feeling of well being but without jitters etc.

killerscoob

Maximuscle is good for high protein supplements I used them when I was using t5's, it keeps muscle mass on otherwise you lose muscle instead of fat,
But personally you dont know what products work because they always say on the labels to use with a calorie contolled diet so the tablets might do jack s**t.
I use tuna in brine Now from asda 130g and 35g of protein cant be that can you for 35p a tin, I lost 10Ib so far in 3 weeks.. I'am Starvin....

jaytc2003

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My new fave is some stewed steak from tesco (cant remember the name not john west though) about 40p a tin, over 40grams of protein, hardly any carbs, and about 1.1 gram of fat per 100 so works out at about just under 5 grams per tin. When you open the tin you usually see a bit of the fat at the top so just skim it. Lovely snack, makes a break from tuna. I went through the tuna stage but I cant stomach it now even though I used to mix it with chillis, chillic suace, worcester sauce etc etc

GazTheHat

My old gym.

GazTheHat

Oh i wont be chief. A purity test is the only way to know and i've shocked a fair few people with results.

jaytc2003

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are they the cheap metabo that you get on ebay though as I get mine at cost and there a lot more than 10p each

GazTheHat

The real deal, but a fair few years ago.

killerscoob

If they are that cheap I might buy some and sell on for a profit.

killerscoob

Mmmm I use Barbecue sauce with mine, I also buy the cheap chicken in the bags you get about 20 pieces in a bag and about 0.1g sat fat per piece,
I only started back the gym a couple of week ago after long injury and I was sore for about a week it felt like a horse had kicked me in the chest, it's the sign of getting old...

Diesel

I'm not quite getting this (off topic!) stuff about eating what you like and then taking a pill to make you burn it off. I know it is a can of worms, but if you are trying to build up muscle then skew the diet towards protein rather than chips, beer & pies? Seems mad to eat chips & pies and then hold yourself in 'second gear' revvin' up to get it off?

When I did my gym phase it used to be protein shakes and lots of good meat (not cheap abused stuff!) and minimise the carbs. Guess some are combining losing a couple of stone quickly with packing up some muscle?

I'm 7 lbs down now, excercising a bit (and still dry since the 2nd ) but I've still gone for the Reductil as it seems to make more sense to not take it in rather than burn it off. I'll let you know what they are like when I pop one

D

StickyMicky

did a bit of googling yesterday and some people were talking about these t5 things, and said they were just a strong ECA stack, probably a real one

jaytc2003

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I have ECA 30 which is a strong eca stack, 30mg ephidrene, 200mg caffeine and 50mg asprin, the T5's I have blow them out of the water, so it is quite possibly a very strong stack.

Diesel, I dont agree with eating what you want and popping pills. With my weight loss I did change my diet to a healthier diet and also stopped missing meals (actually increased to 5 smaller meals a day), also did cardio 5 days a week, probably about 30 mins on avaerage. Anyone who thinks they can eat/drink what they want and pop a pill to lose weight is heading for disappointment.

I find though that they help me focus more, and give me the energy to exercise (I was over 19st when I started at 6ft 2 so I was classed as very obese even though I didnt look that heavy)

GazTheHat

Out of interest then, how much are the T5's now?

Diesel

Depends on the milage and how many owners mate (sorry) D

killerscoob

It depends on who's selling them and wether or not they trust the person they are going to sell them too because the ones I get are not 100% legal.
ask Around in the gym's and you might be pointed in the right direction.

jaytc2003

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#cough# depends where from and if the proper stuff and like killerscoob says if you know the person its usually cheaper

lorrainecallison

I work as practice nurse and have used reductil/rimonabant/orlistat a lot - effects may not be dramatic but they can definately help. Probably missed a bit in the middle of this thread but did wherever you got them from give you details of manufacturer's support and information service - can be quite helpful. Haven't got the details on me but can get them if you want.

Also get your BP checked every couple of weeks or so - although have only come across 1 person whose BP was affected by it

Good luck

Fuzz

CARDIOVASCULAR EXERCISE !!


You're a nutter if you think piopping a few pills is going to do you any good long or short term.
Get off your ****, put in the effort and cut out the crap.

killerscoob

Mmmm I dont what to say about that? But I do agree to a degree but Like I said Previous I havent had any now for 9 months and I am losing it on my own back but some people dont know how to lose weight or have problems with it,Popping pills should be only a temp only but These big bodybuilders that compete in comp's put on loads of mass for muscle building then cut up for definition in the summer and without these pills I dont think most of them would compete so what Iam saying is everyone is different with different lifestyles so dont be to harsh to judge everyone.

Diesel

This post couldnt be more different to the post above it by the medical professional Thanks for stating the obvious and confirming what I'm already doing though D

Diesel

Agree with you mate - I still think pills are a form of'cheating' with my old school mind on. With a more modern clinical head on I think more pragmatically.

I'm another pound down today due to diet and excercise alone and the pills have just arrived. In much the same way as I used to put octane booster in the Scoob to improve matters I'm doing the same with me till the end of the month. Feel a bit like a guinea pig but if it improves the wedding pix

D

jaytc2003

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good luck for the wedding pix's. For something drastic you could try dnp..............

only joking about that, it works but the risks arent worth it.

Diesel

I'm only tweaking the map mate - not blowing it to bits D

jaytc2003

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lol, race fuel anyone!

kingofturds

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Clen... seriously though you don't want to start taking horse drugs and stuff like that. you will be looking thin but probably because you are dead and the worms are eating you 6 ft under

jaytc2003

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Clen's not that bad, for max affect allegedly you use it with cytomel (T3), however this only increases metabolism upto about 5%

Check out 2,4-dinitrophenol or dnp.....upto 50% increase in metabolic rate.