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SirFozzalot

Why would you be bored?

I've got a PS3 and I'm loving it!

SirFozzalot

This could add a bit of spice to the debate too

https://www.scoobynet.com/computer-r...-p-hd-dvd.html

Awesomepossum

Quite a few people would disagree with you there

Xbox.com | United Kingdom and Ireland - Xbox Live Issues

16 pages of gamers pretty pi$$ed of with the whole Live/360 experience

...and another 30 odd threads of complaints on the first 2 pages of Microshafts very own fanboy forum.

Once GT5 and GTA comes out for the PS3 then the 360 will be for sale pretty sharpish

SirFozzalot

Can't wait for GTA

Iain Young

Look anywhere on the internet and you can find people moaning about anything. personally, I don't see the problem. Live was a bit flaky over xmas because of unprecedented demand. They've fixed it now and will be compensating for the downtime. Can't see a problem with that myself...

Personally I've not experienced any problems with it at all

Iain Young

You don't want the 360 exclusive content for GTA then?

SirFozzalot

No thanks

Awesomepossum

Good on you for suffering from no problems with Live, many thousands of users unfortunatly had a **** festive season of gaming due to MS's ineptitude

Far from fixed i reckon when.................

FIFa is still ropey (I know EA servers are cack at the best of time but this is a joke)

Forza is seeing more disconnections than usual and sometimes wont connect at all

PGR4 just wont connect

COD4 collapses after 8pm

Freezing on the Live Blade is become more common

Sometimes the Friends list wont appear at all for the entire session

Messenger wont connect and if does connect it drops out after a couple of minutes

Unable to redeem Microsoft points so i can DL the extra tracks for Forza

Update for BF2 does not work so i cannot play that game

....and the offer of a free arcade games from yonks ago is a tempting as a BJ from Jade Goody. Personally i am not looking for any compo i just want Live back to the way it was pre Movie downloads

These are all the problems i have personally experienced and it annoyed the hell out of me for hours on end when trying to play FIFA with my cousins in the States at Chrimbo time, only time of yr when all of us can get together on Live for some stress free gaming fun but thanks to MS, this years was gaming was pants compared to prev years

The hierarchy of Live have offered no timescale for things to be back to normal and no official reason for the outages. The cherry on top is the compo offer of an arcade game that 99% of Live users would never play

As i said 30 odd pages of varying degrees of severity of dissatisfaction on the link i posted so as i said i think there is a few gamers out there that disagree. Only the most ardent fanboy wont state that they dont see a problem, Hi Iain

Whereas the PS3 online has been fine and dandy and if Live does not improve over the next week or two i wont even wait for GTA or GT5 the thing will get punted before the end of the month because without a decent online service, for which i pay £40 a year for the privilige, the 360 is just not for me. Probably the reason i have a low 1900 gamerscore due to just playing online and hardly touching the single player aspect of most games. COD4 was the last single player experience i enjoyed and before that it was GT4 on the PS2

Personally i think Lives problem has been has been the massive amount of new users over the Xmas period over stretching the servers and this in conjunction with the recently released movie download service the Servers effectivly collapsed. This is only my humble opinion

Iain Young

I never said I didn't have a problem with Live over Xmas. It struggled due to the huge demand, and is now back to normal (due to MS putting in more servers etc).

Nothing to do with Live. That's EA's less than great coding.

Working fine for me.

Yes it will.

Hmmm, that's when I start playing it.

Never had that.

Never had that either

Don't use that, so can't comment

Hmm, I redeemed a prepaid card on xmas day (for my mum and her 360), and I bought additional points for myself yesterday with no trouble.

Can't comment as I haven't got it. That'll be a problem with the developer, not Microsoft or Live.

MS haven't actually announced what the game will be, so that's just conjecture at this point.

Seeing as MS have announced that they have now sold 17.7 million 360 consoles, 30 pages of problems on a forum seems pretty small

p.s. For the record I'm not an MS fanboy. In fact I've got the cash waiting for a PS3 sat in my bank account. Just waiting for a reason to buy one

Not surprised considering the vastly smaller user base.

bob269

Totally agree Iain, Why do people keep bitching about the slightest glitch, seems people want MS to fail for the hell of it, i've played Halo3 with 2million people online all is fine, they've just released movie downloads to Europe, maybe they didnt expect it to be as popular as you cynics would make out, but they are increasing bandwidth's as demand increases.

My internet was as expected, surprisingly slower over xmas as people were off work and surfing, I didnt ring Virgin and complain.

StickyMicky

my live was crap

cod4 was broken, gears was crap, to be honest i just did not want to play single player games

so i switched the 360 off for a while and read 2 books

i can now remeber stuff like a demon thanks to one of derren browns books and the "loci: memory system

Boro

iTrader: (1)

You grown men are like kids in a school yard. Bitchin about your dad being bigger than my dad.

GROW UP before i bang ya heads together.

PS. PS3 is crap

Awesomepossum

Just pointing out that the 360 is not the be all and end all

Yes Mum

PS. Atari is crap

Awesomepossum

Thank god i am not alone, never thought i was but hey ho

Also discovered that the door that has been held open by the PS3 all this time actually leads a big place where the roof is Blue, the floor is a mixture of grass and concrete with other people driving about in cars like the ones in Forza/PGR4.

Awesomepossum

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Good on you for suffering from no problems with Live, many thousands of users unfortunatly had a **** festive season of gaming due to MS's ineptitude

I never said I didn't have a problem with Live over Xmas. It struggled due to the huge demand, and is now back to normal (due to MS putting in more servers etc)....And i am saying that it is not back to normal, today is better yes but still not the way it was pre-Christmas


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FIFa is still ropey (I know EA servers are cack at the best of time but this is a joke)

Nothing to do with Live. That's EA's less than great coding....FIFA08 prior to christmas it was a beautiful experience even when playing 5 v 5 with Andy in Virginia and Axl in Texas since christmas it has been mediocre. For once in its life FIFA is actually better than PES online so the coding cannot be slated

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Forza is seeing more disconnections than usual and sometimes wont connect at all
Working fine for me.....Forza 2, personally seen a lot more disconnectios recently and so have a lot of my friends list.


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PGR4 just wont connect
Yes it will.............PGR4, hhhmmm been sitting for 30 mins waiting on a race but just sits there in the lobby again i am not alone with this according to a few threads.

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COD4 collapses after 8pm
Hmmm, that's when I start playing it...........not been on COD4 a lot myself, the twice i went on COD i experienced a 20 min wait for but i have read numerous threads citing COD4 as the worst example


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Freezing on the Live Blade is become more common

Never had that.....freezing of Blade and Game in general, yup there is quite a few mentions in there and i also have experienced both symptoms


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Sometimes the Friends list wont appear at all for the entire session

Never had that either....Missing Friends list, yup but only had that a couple of times but couple of Friends have experienced it a lot


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Messenger wont connect and if does connect it drops out after a couple of minutes

Don't use that, so can't comment...MSN, it has become a bit of a signal that all ids not well. First MSN goes then game becomes unstable. Bloody hate that addon anyway

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Unable to redeem Microsoft points so i can DL the extra tracks for Forza

Hmm, I redeemed a prepaid card on xmas day (for my mum and her 360), and I bought additional points for myself yesterday with no trouble......Again a few threads regarding this, i have tried to input a prepaid card yesterday so i could DL the Forza addons. End result is "Cannot complete this process", resulting in me still not having the extra tracks but having paid for the card


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Update for BF2 does not work so i cannot play that game

Can't comment as I haven't got it. That'll be a problem with the developer, not Microsoft or Live.........BF2, last time i played this was a good 6 months or so ago and i got the update screen it would not let me past the screen without the update so both Multiplayer and Single player for me were null and indeed void. The update comes either via Live or from Live so i would disagree and say it was a problem with Live/MS

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....and the offer of a free arcade games from yonks ago is a tempting as a BJ from Jade Goody

MS haven't actually announced what the game will be, so that's just conjecture at this point...............widespead conjecture and some CEO of MS has confirmed there will be compo of a an arcade game for Gold users

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As i said 30 odd pages of varying degrees of severity of dissatisfaction on the link i posted so as i said i think there is a few gamers out there that disagree. Only the most ardent fanboy wont state that they dont see a problem, Hi Iain
Seeing as MS have announced that they have now sold 17.7 million 360 consoles, 30 pages of problems on a forum seems pretty small .....still should be a decent a stable service for all for the amount they charge per year

p.s. For the record I'm not an MS fanboy. In fact I've got the cash waiting for a PS3 sat in my bank account. Just waiting for a reason to buy one ...of course your not and i am Britney Spiers parenting advisor

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Whereas the PS3 online has been fine and dandy

Not surprised considering the vastly smaller user base......and vastly more capable servers in terms of lobby capacity[/QUOTE]

WOW, what a reply.

You sure your not on Big Billy Gates payroll, if your not you sure as hell should be son

Making it sound as if i am the only one suffering a poor service but according to the 30 odd threads, threads posted and counted since the turn of the year on MS's own forum i am not alone. Extrapolate the numbers as you will but there is no ignoring there is a problem with the glorious service they call Live. When it started to go **** up about Christmas i spent a day chasing NTL/Virgin thinking that it was a problem at my end. After typing "Xbox Live failure" into Google i soon realised i am not alone. Having kept an eye on that particular forum for the past 10 days or so for news of improvement i see that more and more people are becoming frustrated with the level of service currently offered by MS and quite a few are selling up and heading for the dark side (oh thats right i already own a PS3 since day 1 so does that make me bi-sexual because i swing both ways), me included if Live does not stabilse sometime soon

Lots of love and kisses

Grant (TheSquirrel555)
PS3, PS2, 360 Premium, PSP, Gaming PC, DS, N-Gage, Saturn, Dreamcast, Orig Xbox, PSone, Megadrive, 32x, Master System, Spectrum 128k, C64, Spectrum 48k, Commadore Plus 4 and the old Atari owner

RB5-Black

LOL you bought a 32x

Funkii Munkii

Here we go again the TuppaWear Mafia gang up on the PS3 boys, Oh the paranoia of owning an x-box, you'll probably miss the RROD coming on as your continually looking over your shoulders at what the PS3 is doing, quite frankly I don't understand it but it's highly amusing to see people getting so animated.

Iain Young

Sigh...

Personally, I have owned practically every single console ever made (still got most of them, including a MegaCD and a 32x ), so I'm hardly a MS fanboy. Will get a PS3 as soon as there is something worth buying one for. At the moment there isn't imo.

I've not had any of the problems that you mention, and I use the console a fair bit. If that makes me a fanboy, so be it . For a 2 week period of flakyness it seems a bit of an over reaction, but you are entitled to your opinion...

Happy new year

PS1, PS2, PSP, Gameboy (2xoriginal, advance, sp and ds), Saturn, Megadrive, Master System, Mega CD, 32x, Dreamcast, Game Gear, GP2X, NES, SNES, Gamecube, Wii (now sold - it was rubbish), Atari Lynx, Atari 2600, Acetronic, Spectrum, ZX81, Atari ST, Atari STe, Amiga A600, C64, BBC Micro, Dragon 32, numerous Gaming PCs (and probably a few others I've forgotten)...

PeteBrant

Iain!!! You missed out on Galaxy? It's ace

SirFozzalot

What about the Amiga cd32?

I bought one...what a waste

I've still got it though, it's sitting in a box in the loft, along with my Amiga A500, Original Playstation, PS2 and an original 80's Cartridge Atari!

messiah

I've had lots of problems with the dashboard too, all I've had is the flashing circle lights and not much else, until it gets to the "connect to xbox live" option - but strangly, if I press the live button the controller it brings up my friends list no problem.

Dashboard seems to be my main problem, getting into a lobby has also been problematic on COD4 but once in the lobby and in game its been fine with 16 players, but I know some others have had problems.

Don't think its fair to compare the problems Live has had with PSN - there is huge difference in the numbers using them.

Awesomepossum

Was not really trying to compare Live with PSN. It is just good to know that there is an escape route if the Live thing pi$$es me off too much and the PSN does not charge for its service for being essentially a back up to the MS Live service

Awesomepossum

Sad i know

Hangs head in shame

Awesomepossum

Damn impressive list the sir

Highlighted ones are the only ones i never owned. I still have the Commadore Plus 4, Megadrive with Sensi Soccer, Virtua Racing and PGA Golf, Dreamcast with F355 and a Panasonic 3D0 all sitiing upstairs in the loft

At one point i even had a full size Star Wars Tie Fighter arcade game for a while in the garage. Bought the Tie Fighter and a Paperboy unit for £40 from a fairground in Millport that was closing and sold it 6 months later to some Star Wars friend of a friend for £800 and sold the Paperboy machine online for £500

Funkii Munkii

No Grandstand consol from the late 70's which played tennis footy and squash with sliders?? didn't they call it pong ?, I still have a colour version in the loft and it still works ! and yes i'm still waiting for this to become collectable, if it were a car it would have been by now...

Iain Young

Not a Grandstand, but I've still got a working Acetronic (my first console)...

SirFozzalot

I read yesterday that Rockstar have scrapped that idea anyway, so there won't be any Xbox exclusive content anymore, apparently mainly due to missed deadlines and not enough time to sort it out and the fact they didn't want it to be exclusive to Xbox. Just what I read.

bob269

I suspect they get paid for exclusive content and can not just decide to scrap it, missed deadlines is because of the crap to program ps3 (probably)

SirFozzalot

There was an offer made by Microsoft for the exclusive content, but was apparently never actually accepted and agreed. So they can indeed scrap the idea.