Andy.F

I find the NF a bit awkward to measure accurately when doing a partial fill up and usually end up just adding too much to be safe ! It would be a real step ahead if they would produce the bottle with a clear strip down the side.
I know some use a large syringe to measure it but you get enough funny looks as it is without giving your car an injection

GazTheHat

That would be perfect. I carry a plastic funnel (50p) and a plastic measuring jug (£1) in the car, where the jack is. Would be nice not to fart around with it though.

Can you get the methanol easily enough in 5l cans? Then there would be no mixing/measuring, just fire it in.

Surely a slight price premium for buying less would be worth less hastle?!?

banny sti

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A petrol can is 5 litres max though, so I dont see the need to buy smaller quantities of it.

Banny

jd5217

just have some jerry cans at home & premix before filling.

harvey

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Banny : Be careful. Although petrol cans are sold as 5 litres I have several here that take just over 6 litres filled to the top.

scoobyhep

Does your car have to be mapped to take methanol?

Will it make any difference if its not mapped

turboDean

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Was thinking of getting a 100ml measuring tube/cylinder, like the sort of things used in science classes in school then just measuring 30ml for every 10 litres of fuel.

p1dazza

If your car is not mapped for methanol you will not get the maximum benefits from using it.
The Optimum AFR is different to petrol and you can run more ignition advance which is the main reason for running methanol so you are wasting your time without a remap.

swifty.....!

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with NF i use the old bottles with pre messured amounts one for quarter of tank etc saves time when filling up.

Andy.F
what would 10% of methanol add bhp/torque wise to mine i know we was talking about methanol last time i was up there but with petrol prices as they are i'm thinking more about doing this now.

all mods are in my plus profile also

lunar tick

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Andy - try using a plastic 35mm film container. They hold exactly 40mls. I normally refill the car at just under 1/4 full and it takes 40L. So 1 container full = 1ml per litre; 2 = 2mls per litre and so on

GazTheHat

I was thinking more of getting smaller amounts in ready containers, so you buy it, stick it in the boot, pour it all in at fillup. So there's no mixing/measuring/messing.

banny sti

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Thats exactly what I do fill the can up, stick that in first and then top it up to full with petrol

Banny

turboDean

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Is that delivered??

Granby

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Thought i'd bring this thread back as i'm considering using methanol in the future

banny sti

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Found a local place that does it at £16 for 20 litres

Banny

maps

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As i can only get crappy texaco SUL where i am, when i get mine mapped, would i see much gain with say a 5% mix as a booster???

cheers mark

banny sti

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Better of going with 10% Mark, you will see a gain of about 20 of each right across the rev range.

Banny

maps

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just looked on ebay and you can get a 205ltr drum for 85 qiud, if you pick it up, thats like 40p per litre, has it got a shelf life???

cheers mark

stiler83

Not read the whole thread but here is some thing I posted on another forum when a similary question popped up.

There is a large amount of misunderstanding floating around on the web about the use of alcohol as a automotive fuel. Most of it comes from people's lack of knowledge about Ethanol and Methanol. Methanol is is highly corrosive to Aluminium but aluminium can also suffer galvanic corrosion when you get into 85 percent ethanol range. Since the 70's most vehicles use an anodising process to reduce the issue and Fex-fuel vehicles also use rubber seals suitable for the task.
If you are wanting to run E85 then your primary concern should be if the fuel pump can supply enough fuel and if it's seals are compatible (remember petrol acts as a lubricant for your fuel pump so this is very important, newer multi-fuel pumps tend to have ceramic/composite seals) and the size of your injectors, as these will most likely need to be increased in size as they will need to supply 10-30% more fuel. Depending on the vehicle fuel economy with E85 ethanol is some 20 to 30 percent less than with petrol as gallon of E85 has only 72 percent of the energy that a gallon of petrol has.

hope this helps...

StuS

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I'd be interested in the answer to that question too. If you buy 200 litres, how long do you have to use it all up?

Jennychem sell 210l for £150. How come the ebay stuff is so much cheaper?

Olly.Wrx

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Would there be any point in using a 10% mix of methanol in my wrx with v-power.The only reason i ask is that v-power is 97 ron and my car is a 1994 wrx which is a import from japan,so am i right in saying that its mapped to use 100 ron fuel?
Would i get any gains from using it?

And would a 10% mix make the fuel like 100 ron super unleaded?

Granby

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v-power is 99 ron

Granby

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I've started to use methanol now and with a 15% mix i gained 26bhp & 30ft lbs, my tank is 60lts so 15% is 9lts and when i go to fill up i carry a can with 4.5lts and put in 25.5lts of petrol, also running 2 maps, 1 for v power & 1 for v power and methanol

RA Dunk

Thats pretty good gains for a 15% mix, did you use a splash of octane booster as well?

Granby

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nope, just the methanol mix

scooby1doo1

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Is that 26bhp after remap with meth.

Jolly Green Monster

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yes I mapped it for vpower and then the meth was added whilst it was still on the dyno and remapped it for vpower+meth etc..

Simon

RA Dunk

So what sort of shelf life does Methanol have then?

Granby

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lunar tick

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Pretty indefinite - it's a very stable compound